New Feature - Champions 2.0 (Live with R287)

Ptahhotep

I needed to champ one more 4* for the next milestone reward. However, ascending a 3* didn’t update the milestone.

Itsmeabxab

So until this is patched there’s going to be some upper level players that get months of rewards in a day.. lol

Itsmeabxab

I’ve spent tons on this game, and now for me to use this new feature I need to spend tons more on roster slots.. no thanks

stef_focus

@Ptahhotep said:
I needed to champ one more 4* for the next milestone reward. However, ascending a 3* didn’t update the milestone.

I expect that it's because you need to "promote" a 4* for it to count, which is the button you press when you create a champ from a 13-cover max-lvl non-champ. Here you "ascend" a 3* directly to an already champed 4*, so the "promotion" steps gets skipped.

bluspiritseeker

With the all-of-a-sudden need for HP and ISO, how is everyone prioritizing their characters now, in terms of level-up, ascending, etc.? I took a break since Spring and, with this, have NO idea how to proceed again.

Bad

@bbigler said:
@Bad @entrailbucket
You don’t need to pay ISO leveling costs and champ fees in subsequent tiers. When ascending, they start as baby champs. So, you only need to pay for the base tier, everything else is “free”.

So that means the costs are one of these:
16 x max level 1-stars
8 x 2-star champs
4 x 3-Star champs
2 x 4-Star champs

None of those options get near 1 million

I couldn't ascend psylocke until paying the iso for champing her, like I was saying.
So ascending 2 4s: 365k iso each one, plus all the 3s.
1 million iso more or less.
A lot more than a bit less.

KenshinUK

Ascended Ragnarok 3* to 4*, my first one, and sadly he doesn't get the boost in lightning round, only the 3* version. Sorry if someone already posted this info.

Vhailorx

@bluspiritseeker said:
With the all-of-a-sudden need for HP and ISO, how is everyone prioritizing their characters now, in terms of level-up, ascending, etc.? I took a break since Spring and, with this, have NO idea how to proceed again.

This is a good question. It's going to take some time to identify the new optimal strategy.

In the meantime, I would suggest going with the standard, conservative strategies of hoarding non-expiring resources wherever possible, and spending only the bare minimum to ensure that you don't lose expiring resources (e.g., save all your HP generally, BUT spend it on slots to make sure you don't lose any covers, etc).

I think that immediately back-filling lower tiers after ascending characters is a smart move (i.e., use at least 1 cover to roster a new 3* dupe of a 3* when you ascend them to 4*). You will eventually want the dupe for subsequent ascents, and this ensures that you will never be locked out of any PVE essential nodes.

Otherwise, in terms of strategy for who to ascend first, there doesn't seem to be a heavy up-front tax on ascension so "as they bear" seems like the right strategy. The biggest question for me is which 3* and 4* characters to target. I have typically focused on getting shards for the newer 5* releases so that I can maximize my chance to get each new release champed before they leave the LT pool without need to spend any cp. But I may switch my 4* target over to medusa and then cyclops, both of whom I have at 350+ and both of whom would be very fun at the 5* level (though I expect medusa will be much more important than cyclops in terms of the meta-game).

ThaRoadWarrior

Medusa isn’t all that meta unboosted, just wanted to temper that enthusiasm.

Bowgentle

@bluspiritseeker said:
With the all-of-a-sudden need for HP and ISO, how is everyone prioritizing their characters now, in terms of level-up, ascending, etc.? I took a break since Spring and, with this, have NO idea how to proceed again.

Ascending freed up 23 roster slots for me.
YMMV.

Vhailorx

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
Medusa isn’t all that meta unboosted, just wanted to temper that enthusiasm.

Will ascended 4* s ever be boosted? Is an ascended medusa 550+ when 4* medusa is boosted for the week? If not my reckoning might change, but I expect medusa, karnak, and rogue, at the very least, to have utility in the 5* tier).

She won't match the best teams in terms of damage output. But she is automatic, passive damage and also does two other useful things passively (healing and ap generation). Those are reliable, exploitable abilities. so I expect that she will be a reliable 3rd option for many teams and potentially even a useful PVP scarecrow with the right partner.

ThaRoadWarrior

Rogue for sure. Medusa’s time will probably come when Polaris and/or lockjaw can ascend. I would expect these ascendant characters to get the boost, but it could easily be a Banner/Hulk scenario as well where they are different under the hood and get left out.

jsmjsmjsm00

They boost by character name, not star rating.

Therefore ascended characters would be boosted.

entrailbucket

Yes, ascended characters will be boosted in the character's regular slot, so if 4* Medusa is boosted, then 5* Medusa will be as well.

Vhailorx

@jsmjsmjsm00 said:
They boost by character name, not star rating.

Therefore ascended characters would be boosted.

2* wolverine is boosted in venom bomb and my newly ascended wolvie (level 174 by default) shows as level 264. So it does appear that boosts are applied by name and all ascended versions will be boosted when the base version is boosted (need more testing to see what strength of boost is applied across the various tiers).

I think this means that 1* and 2* characters will get some bonus value when ascended as their boosts happen more frequently given the smaller character pool at the lowers tiers.

Bowgentle

@entrailbucket said:
Yes, ascended characters will be boosted in the character's regular slot, so if 4* Medusa is boosted, then 5* Medusa will be as well.

LRs don't boost the 4* version, only the 3*.
So yeah, we'll see.

bluspiritseeker

@Bowgentle said:

@bluspiritseeker said:
With the all-of-a-sudden need for HP and ISO, how is everyone prioritizing their characters now, in terms of level-up, ascending, etc.? I took a break since Spring and, with this, have NO idea how to proceed again.

Ascending freed up 23 roster slots for me.
YMMV.

My conundrum on the 2* and 3* characters is that when maxed, I covered a second as they came along, sold the original, and champed the new one to keep the farming of champ rewards flowing while allowing room for more roster slots.

DigitHAL9000

Why can't ascend 1* Black Widow or 1* Juggernaut?

MegaBee

@DigitHAL9000 said:
Why can't ascend 1* Black Widow or 1* Juggernaut?

Are they on the list of characters that can be ascended right now?

skittledaddy

@DigitHAL9000 said:
Why can't ascend 1* Black Widow or 1* Juggernaut?

Characters are being made eligible in 3-4 groups.
Yesterday released only the first group.