***** Emma Frost (Phoenix Five) *****
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Ulik said:Bad said:Stuff
Also this character is expected to destroy 5 tiles while dealing high AoE.
SC could be set to 3/5/5 and take advantage of their red, if he doesn't need extra health.3 -
That match damage could get seriously ugly.
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The extra match damage is nice but ultimately, how it is calculated is important. For some cases, the game will take whichever match damage boost is higher, instead of adding them together.1
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New Emma feels kinda like a diet Shang Chi.
That blue power seems borderline useless and unfortunate.0 -
allen_koholic said:New Emma feels kinda like a diet Shang Chi.
That blue power seems borderline useless and unfortunate.
I feel like her red is Shang Chi on energy drinks0 -
Bad said:If SC has 10 AP, not something really strange, and this character grants him then 90% plus damage, plus all his combo points, and another character creating effects like you say, don't you think SC has less work to do to wipe out the stage?
Also this character is expected to destroy 5 tiles while dealing high AoE.
SC could be set to 3/5/5 and take advantage of their red, if he doesn't need extra health.1 -
Ulik said:Bad said:If SC has 10 AP, not something really strange, and this character grants him then 90% plus damage, plus all his combo points, and another character creating effects like you say, don't you think SC has less work to do to wipe out the stage?
Also this character is expected to destroy 5 tiles while dealing high AoE.
SC could be set to 3/5/5 and take advantage of their red, if he doesn't need extra health.6 -
MegaBee said:Ulik said:Bad said:If SC has 10 AP, not something really strange, and this character grants him then 90% plus damage, plus all his combo points, and another character creating effects like you say, don't you think SC has less work to do to wipe out the stage?
Also this character is expected to destroy 5 tiles while dealing high AoE.
SC could be set to 3/5/5 and take advantage of their red, if he doesn't need extra health.Me too. Paired with Valk, I can often go winfinite and even if the winfinite engine stalls, the AI only gets a single turn before I'm firing Red again. I definitely have his Red and Purple at 5.KGB2 -
Ulik said:Bad said:If SC has 10 AP, not something really strange, and this character grants him then 90% plus damage, plus all his combo points, and another character creating effects like you say, don't you think SC has less work to do to wipe out the stage?
Also this character is expected to destroy 5 tiles while dealing high AoE.
SC could be set to 3/5/5 and take advantage of their red, if he doesn't need extra health.1 -
Just echoing the others who use Shang properly... Its 5/5/3 all the way, the additional damage from extra covers in blue is irrelevant once you have 6+ combo points so its all about red and purple to manipulate the board how you want it to go. and the true heal means 0 health packs used6
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killahKlown said:allen_koholic said:New Emma feels kinda like a diet Shang Chi.
That blue power seems borderline useless and unfortunate.
I feel like her red is Shang Chi on energy drinks
New Emma can hit hard. Or she can do board control. Or she can tank. But those are (mostly) XORs. SC can do all of those at once. I'm not saying she's bad. But it's like comparing Apoc to Okoye. Apoc's trick is being an Okoye light.0 -
Ulik said:Bad said:If SC has 10 AP, not something really strange, and this character grants him then 90% plus damage, plus all his combo points, and another character creating effects like you say, don't you think SC has less work to do to wipe out the stage?
Also this character is expected to destroy 5 tiles while dealing high AoE.
SC could be set to 3/5/5 and take advantage of their red, if he doesn't need extra health.1 -
I'm fairly certain that @Ulik was making an absurdist point to the idea of a 3/5/5 SC build. Until today, I've never seen anyone suggest anything other than 5/x/x.2
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I go 4/5/4 - I don't need the 5th tile destruction
Daredevils build recommended is 3/5/52 -
allen_koholic said:killahKlown said:allen_koholic said:New Emma feels kinda like a diet Shang Chi.
That blue power seems borderline useless and unfortunate.
I feel like her red is Shang Chi on energy drinks
New Emma can hit hard. Or she can do board control. Or she can tank. But those are (mostly) XORs. SC can do all of those at once. I'm not saying she's bad. But it's like comparing Apoc to Okoye. Apoc's trick is being an Okoye light.0 -
I don't think there's a bad build for Shang-Chi. It speaks to how strong a character he is. He will usually accomplish much the same regardless of his build. I have experimented with different builds and I think it ultimately comes down to personal preference and who you're pairing him with.
All that being said, I choose to usually run him at 3/5/5.1 -
allen_koholic said:killahKlown said:allen_koholic said:New Emma feels kinda like a diet Shang Chi.
That blue power seems borderline useless and unfortunate.
I feel like her red is Shang Chi on energy drinks
New Emma can hit hard. Or she can do board control. Or she can tank. But those are (mostly) XORs. SC can do all of those at once.
#2 Emma looks WAY better defensively (numbers depending)#3 She actually looks like a better teammate than SC, who the entire must revolve around.#4 the absolute last thing you want SC doing is tanking.0 -
I'm a SC user in almost all pves and pvps.
My build is 4/5/4 too.
However recently I'm playing him with Jthor and when SC has full health and enough purple it feels great to fire Jthor red and just to relax, for once, on designing combos.
If playing half thor, valkirye or MM, SC literally swims on red.
This character dealing high AoE damage when the board is already on control would be wildly fun.
And until that times comes, this character boost SC match damage, so it's a win-win.2 -
ElReyFelix said:I don't think there's a bad build for Shang-Chi. It speaks to how strong a character he is. He will usually accomplish much the same regardless of his build. I have experimented with different builds and I think it ultimately comes down to personal preference and who you're pairing him with.
All that being said, I choose to usually run him at 3/5/5.1 -
Godzillafan67 said:I'm fairly certain that @Ulik was making an absurdist point to the idea of a 3/5/5 SC build. Until today, I've never seen anyone suggest anything other than 5/x/x.2
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