Adventures with 5* Wasp.

Rod5

Post-iso, iso-positive…tomayto tomato, either way Wa5p is still the worst 5* in the game even after a buff.

entrailbucket

@Rod5 said:
Post-iso, iso-positive…tomayto tomato, either way Wa5p is still the worst 5* in the game even after a buff.

That's Black Widow. Wasp has modern 5* match damage and health now.

Tiger_Wong

@Rod5 said:
Post-iso, iso-positive…tomayto tomato, either way Wa5p is still the worst 5* in the game even after a buff.

Show me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Rod5

@Tiger_Wong said:

@Rod5 said:
Post-iso, iso-positive…tomayto tomato, either way Wa5p is still the worst 5* in the game even after a buff.

Show me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about.

How imaginative, did you think that up yourself? I’m 10 years in and I’m good, but thanks for your pathetic attempted put-down.

sambrookjm

@entrailbucket said:

@Rod5 said:
Post-iso, iso-positive…tomayto tomato, either way Wa5p is still the worst 5* in the game even after a buff.

That's Black Widow. Wasp has modern 5* match damage and health now.

Where's the "I agree with this comment, and it's sad" button?

DrClever

2> @Rod5 said:

@Tiger_Wong said:

@Rod5 said:
Post-iso, iso-positive…tomayto tomato, either way Wa5p is still the worst 5* in the game even after a buff.

Show me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about.

How imaginative, did you think that up yourself? I’m 10 years in and I’m good, but thanks for your pathetic attempted put-down.

Well, it was a long way from the best but it did the job.

Like a boosted 5Wasp.

Tiger_Wong

@Rod5 said:

@Tiger_Wong said:

@Rod5 said:
Post-iso, iso-positive…tomayto tomato, either way Wa5p is still the worst 5* in the game even after a buff.

Show me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about.

How imaginative, did you

Trash opinions deserve trash putdowns

Rod5

OK champ, look forward to seeing you in pvp, esp if you’re running wasp 🤡

Tiger_Wong

@Rod5 said:
OK champ, look forward to seeing you in pvp, esp if you’re running wasp

Oh you moved the goalposts? I’m shocked. Shocked I say. Now it’s not “Wasp is the worst 5* character in the game”. Now it’s about pvp? 😂

Trash opinions are trash opinions. Stay free.

Rod5

Feel free to report how well you do with her in PvE too, and not just as Thanos fodder.

entrailbucket

@Rod5 said:
Feel free to report how well you do with her in PvE too, and not just as Thanos fodder.

I did pretty well with her in PvP when she was boosted. She was my 30th 550 (I think?) and at 672 she's got like 450,000 health and does 30k match damage or so.

Next time she's boosted you should come to s2 and see!

Tiger_Wong

@Rod5 said:
Feel free to report

She’s nowhere near the worst 5* in the game. She’s nowhere near as bad or as difficult to use as Odin, Abigail, or 5* Black Widow.

You’re so free. 😂😂 and your opinion is so trash.

You can get a winfinite Hope and all you really have to get is 6 black AP. The rest happens no later than turn 5 if you never make a yellow/blue match.

“Feel free to report” how Odin, Abigail, and 5* black widow have anything close to exploitable.

Stay free.

Rod5

@Tiger_Wong said:

@Rod5 said:
Feel free to report

She’s nowhere near the worst 5* in the game. She’s nowhere near as bad or as difficult to use as Odin, Abigail, or 5* Black Widow.

You’re so free. 😂😂 and your opinion is so trash.

You can get a winfinite Hope and all you really have to get is 6 black AP. The rest happens no later than turn 5 if you never make a yellow/blue match.

“Feel free to report” how Odin, Abigail, and 5* black widow have anything close to exploitable.

Stay free.

Odin is a defensive pain in PvP, which is already more than wasp - Natasha’s powers are expensive but they at least do something approaching damage (unlike wasp), Brand is also a pain in PvP paired with the right character - cheap powers (unlike wasp) that do something vaguely useful (unlike wasp).

Stay toxic.

Rod5

@entrailbucket said:

@Rod5 said:
Feel free to report how well you do with her in PvE too, and not just as Thanos fodder.

I did pretty well with her in PvP when she was boosted. She was my 30th 550 (I think?) and at 672 she's got like 450,000 health and does 30k match damage or so.

Next time she's boosted you should come to s2 and see!

I’ll make a point of doing so - sadly I only have the 5 550s, thankfully they are the good ones and I won’t need any boosted to take down the walking target that is Wa5p 😂

entrailbucket

@Rod5 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Rod5 said:
Feel free to report how well you do with her in PvE too, and not just as Thanos fodder.

I did pretty well with her in PvP when she was boosted. She was my 30th 550 (I think?) and at 672 she's got like 450,000 health and does 30k match damage or so.

Next time she's boosted you should come to s2 and see!

I’ll make a point of doing so - sadly I only have the 5 550s, thankfully they are the good ones and I won’t need any boosted to take down the walking target that is Wa5p 😂

5 550s???? Look out everybody, it's a superwhale! Whatever will we do?

entrailbucket

Oh, I've got Black Widow at 550 too, and she's completely unplayable, under any circumstances, even at 672.

Tiger_Wong

@Rod5 said:

@Tiger_Wong said:

@Rod5 said:
Feel free to report

She’s nowhere near the worst 5* in the game. She’s nowhere near as bad or as difficult to use as Odin, Abigail, or 5* Black Widow.

You’re so free. 😂😂 and your opinion is so trash.

You can get a winfinite Hope and all you really have to get is 6 black AP. The rest happens no later than turn 5 if you never make a yellow/blue match.

“Feel free to report” how Odin, Abigail, and 5* black widow have anything close to exploitable.

Stay free.

Odin is a defensive pain in PvP, which is already more than wasp - Natasha’s powers are expensive but they at least do something approaching damage (unlike wasp), Brand is also a pain in PvP paired with the right character - cheap powers (unlike wasp) that do something vaguely useful (unlike wasp).

🤣 odin’s jump in front is the worst in the game. Most of the time, he doesn’t even mitigate damage. He just jumps in front, and the character takes damage. His kit is slow, convuluted, under-powered, and almost impossible to utilize and exploit. Offensively, he’s a junk support character.

Brand 🤣 has nothing that makes her a pain. What’s supposed to be such a pain? Her weak heath burst that caps out at 3x a turn? Her AP destruction that’s basically Odin’s, ie not worth the AP you collect to use. 2-turn repeater that damages on activation but then you keep waiting and waiting for the AP destruction. Oh wait…. I know. It’s her yellow that makes her a pain! Yeah. The power that drops 1 repeater/CD to 0…… but you have to wait 2 more turns to do it? Yeah. She’s a pain alright. A pain to use.

And the power and costs comments are beyond laughable and just shoe how little you know about Hope. As I said before, you only need 6 black AP and by turns 5 at worst, you’re gonna do all the damage you need again and again and again, until all the characters on the opposing team are dead. Hope’s cost and damage are far better than Widow, Odin, and Abigail. They aren’t on a team that goes winfinite. Or on a team that can exploit their powers when used.

“Do something vaguely useful”? 🤣 how about nuke a full health lvl 650 team on turn 5? When have Odin, AB, or Widow EVER been that useful?

🗑️ opinions are 🗑️ opinions.

Rod5

You need to get out more

Mr_F

@entrailbucket said:
It's pretty simple. If we're rating characters on a scale from 1 to 10, most 5* are in the 7-10 range. >Wasp went from, like, a 3, to a 7. That's a big jump, and it's meaningful.

Except there's 6 or 7 characters that break the scale and rate at 14 or 15. If you compare everyone >to those guys, then of course 7s and 8s look terrible and useless -- they are, in fact, terrible and >useless.

If the scale maxed out at 10 everyone would be happy with Wasp.

And that Quote from Feb 16th 2023 is best i can ever give ya. Too many people thinks that she is still 1 in that scale.

Anyway, Champed Okoye few days ago and broke the hoard today. I did the hoard breaking only because I wanted to recruit via shards all missing 5*: Sersi, Ultron and Big Wheel, endidng with 1/2/2 covers respectivetly thanks to 500 bonus for Ultron and Wheel. So officially I have everybody rostered - including Badger and Weapon Hex.

Next on the list is champing Vulture (3/4/3) into Magik (3/3/3) and of course, new releases in between. Current state is:
Peggy lv 457
Goose 3/3/2 + one more from Monica in 3 levels.
The Hunter 3/2/3.

23 4* left to champ with ~6 more coming in meanwhile. Then I can focus on ascending more charas than just 1* and 2*. (my ascendend 1* are now my 2* team and ascended 2*, 3* one) for DDQ. I really want to to be ISO independant ASAP.

As of What I am using now: keep being busy so Emma/Omega Red/Crystal when none of my 5* champ is boosted or Omega/3Hunter/Boosted5 if somebody is. Polaris/Kamala/BRB for CN. Hunter can be strange but her Purple power with boosted 5* damage gives is like 20-30k match damage in strong colors. as ya can see, not much Wasp usage but if I had more time I would use her.

Mr_F

Ok guys. I really don't like the mThor. Long story short, I don't like flip coin mechanics in games and mThor is just a flip coin for me: I have days when I can do 20 wins agaist mThor/SC on 5 health packs and days when I can do 2 on 15 while using same team: Phoenix Emma/Omega Red. And all based on pure luck whether the board will allow me to deny them AP or not.

So... I need a better solution. maybe there is something I miss in my roster that is better/more consistent than Emma/Omega? Full and upgraded roster below. And I do not mind retaliations as I aim for wins, so even 4* is ok as long as it will work.

http://mpq.gamependium.com/rosters/PanF/