Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse

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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    I pulled a 4* Krakoa from the many many tokens from the Kamar-taj vault.

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 728 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Punter1 said:
    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

    I don't think very many people around here are duping 5*, so I can answer I guess...I have a few unchamped dupes of the 550s I have (the rule is, a guy will sit on lvl549 forever, and then you'll immediately pull two covers back to back).

    I'm still, uh, pretty iso-positive. As of today I have over 58 million iso, with no levels available to buy.

    Fair - dupe 5s are pretty rare. But those of you up there will have gone through the multiple dupe 4s land. For the most part veterans do seem to keep most max 4s - so no ISO from selling them.

    I am a T50ish finisher in SC10 PVE & PVP in a top 25 alliance. I don't miss much daily ISO, the obvious being a few thousand from personal placement. That would add up somewhat over time, but I don't think fills the dupe ISO hole AND allows someone to bank 58MM!

    I went from thinking I was post ISO to being in the desert, so just amazed others managed to survive through the dupe process on 4s, never mind 5s.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Lightning Rounds.

  • Punter1
    Punter1 Posts: 728 Critical Contributor

    @Bowgentle said:
    Lightning Rounds.

    I play some if i can get in and clear the feeders. Didn't for the longest time when I did have ISO surplus.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,782 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Punter1 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Punter1 said:
    For those of you with dupe 5s, are you still ISO long?

    I have been in the ISO desert for a while now after previously getting up to ~7MM ISO banked. Got the regular 2* & 3* farm (2 cycling copies, 1 max + 1 other) and now got 66 max 4*s doing the same thing, so keeping the max and working on champing the dupe.

    With all the dupes I am constantly short ISO. So can't imagine how duping 5*s can be handled with the current ISO economy.

    I don't think very many people around here are duping 5*, so I can answer I guess...I have a few unchamped dupes of the 550s I have (the rule is, a guy will sit on lvl549 forever, and then you'll immediately pull two covers back to back).

    I'm still, uh, pretty iso-positive. As of today I have over 58 million iso, with no levels available to buy.

    Fair - dupe 5s are pretty rare. But those of you up there will have gone through the multiple dupe 4s land. For the most part veterans do seem to keep most max 4s - so no ISO from selling them.

    I am a T50ish finisher in SC10 PVE & PVP in a top 25 alliance. I don't miss much daily ISO, the obvious being a few thousand from personal placement. That would add up somewhat over time, but I don't think fills the dupe ISO hole AND allows someone to bank 58MM!

    I went from thinking I was post ISO to being in the desert, so just amazed others managed to survive through the dupe process on 4s, never mind 5s.

    Ahhhh I see. So, building the duplicate 4* farm was absolutely BRUTAL. It happened for me a really long time ago. I thought I'd never get it set up.

    I've been playing at a relatively high level for a very, very long time, and so I was playing when champions first became a thing. I don't really target specific characters, and I don't hoard anything, so what happened was that all my 4* started hitting 370 at the same time. I had a huge cushion of iso and used it all up really fast. It took about 6 months of grinding iso in lightning rounds to get my 4* dupe farm fully set up. They did give out less rewards generally around that time, though.

    It's absolutely worth doing. 4* are just a crazy reward factory, and especially with the way they're doing retro feeders now...I wouldn't want to miss out on them.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2023

    I have dupes for 21 of my 28 max champ 4*s. They really do all seem to max out in clumps. It also seems like you end up with a dupe in pretty short order after maxing one, anecdotally.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,782 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    I have dupes for 21 of my 28 max champ 4*s. They really do all seem to max out in clumps. It also seems like you end up with a dupe in pretty short order after maxing one, anecdotally.

    You always pull covers 370 and 371, like, 5 minutes apart. Also I've recently discovered that the same applies to 550 and 551.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards

    Looks like Jeffrey is in, Wong dropped out at 3/3/4 with 488 shards. Abomination is at level 298.

    I had a 335 nebula, so I’m starting with a 1/1/1 High Evolutionary.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,239 Chairperson of the Boards

    Slight tangent but I still haven't been able to champ 3* Jeff but have pulled 3 High Ev 3* covers already today. Jeff seems strangely hard to get for me for some reason. As for 5* Jeff I am waiting for Kang to leave.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    I'm still pretty HP-light right now having been throwing in for vault 10-packs of late, so I haven't rostered either evolutionary yet. I ended up at a 172 for 3* Jeffrey, but ever since Arcade, I also find that landing the 3* isn't a slam dunk always. I'm going to sit on LTs until Kang drops as well, but otherwise commit to the bit and keep throwing my CP into the black hole of Classic. I'm curious how long it'll take to finish up Wong. If I can do it before Kang leaves, then maybe this is not the end of the world.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    I pulled a 3* high evolutionary this morning; haven't rostered it but I did roster my 1/1/1 5*. I also closed out that shard cover of Wong, so he is 3/4/4. I'm 40 abomination covers from finished. I don't think it's worth switching focus to Clea along the way since Wong is only a secondary feeder and she's not that far along. I also have a dupe for Flaptain on the vine; should be ok to get all these guys rostered before they expire, but i haven't been HP pinched like this for a good long time. 1 LT in the bank.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    Single pull from the AAPI vault lucked into 250 Wong shards, so he is now re-aligned with Abomination's rewards; cut it down from 40 covers to 22. I'm going to move my 5* favorite over to Magik.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,782 Chairperson of the Boards

    There's an important lesson here and I have no idea what it is.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards

    RNGeezus taketh with one hand, but giveth with the other. You don't win if you don't play. If you've got time to lean, you've got time to clean. something like that maybe.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,782 Chairperson of the Boards

    Something something impossible to complete characters after they drop out of latest

  • dramatist
    dramatist Posts: 223 Tile Toppler

    My acquisition of Latest Legends has slowed dramatically since Shardmas 2022. For the past several months I have been opening a 50 pack of Latests when the new rotation happens. After I finished applying covers and shards I only have a stash of 24 Latests in reserve so I might not have a full 50 when the High Evolutionary rotates in. The 50 I pulled this week got me 3 champ levels for Kang, 3 Magic covers (3/4/1 with 1515 shards) and 1 Jeffrey (1,1,1 with 2355 shards).

    I haven’t used any CP in Latests for a pretty long while. I’ve been kinda hoarding and kinda spending on Classics. I was bored earlier today and got 43 Classics. This brought me down to 5500 cp. One of the covers was a Rescue cover so now I only have one classic 5* (Gambit) that is not champed.

    I’m not chasing finishing Gambit who needs 295 shards. My Rogue is in the 360s so I won’t be getting any help from her for awhile. But I’m definitely nearing the end of champing all the classic 5*s.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    Just pulled a usable Wong out of Classic if you can believe that. He is now champed. Abomination was at 306. I’m favoriting Magik at the 5 and 4* level to get her moving.

    Current latest:
    Kang: lvl 453 with 240 shards
    Magik: 2/2/4 with 456 shards
    Jeffrey: 2/2/3 with 190 shards

    NEW:
    High Evolutionary: 1/1/1 with 490 shards

    I have 19 LTs banked up for Kang to leave latest. Currently 2.7 million iso. I stay low on Hp because I’ve had to roster 4* dupes and there have been vaults I’m interested in lately.

    I have 29 lvl 370 4*. 28 of those have dupes started. 9 of those are champed solely through organic cover acquisition.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,782 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't know whether to gloat about classic pulls being better than everyone thinks, or to be sad that 4* didn't save you.

    Your rate of 4* acquisition/growth is completely bonkers. There are likely some serious players with much more tenure than you who don't have 29 370s.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,429 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    Yeah, I think spending into both legendary pools in real-time rather than hoarding up is how it’s done at this rate. I don’t even play for top placement, I just green check every node in SCL10 that usually shakes out to T200 or so. I would expect higher end players to be moving way faster than that. I’m on Day 2657 for posterity. My daily reward was 500 iso, so look forward to that, young players.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,782 Chairperson of the Boards

    At Day 3494 (today) I got an Elite token!

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