MPQ 6th Anniversary Schedule

Kletvar

Nick441234 said:

Bowgentle said:

The rockett said:

purplemur said:

jp1 said:

Who is this in response to?

It was aimed at the people feigning incredulity about why people are upset with this Anniversary Season

It was me trying to throw back in the face the people who always regress back to:
if you hate the game so much why do you play it;
with if you hate the forum and opinions expressed so much why keep reading and posting? 
it ended up complaining about the people complaining about the people who have complaints. which is a trap for sure and pretty dumb of me. 

Edit-
feeling guilty about spending money on costumes when I am still pissed at the decisions involved and the lack of communication and am probably focusing on the like 3/4 posts that whiff of dev defending and overblowing them. Not trying to start a beef.

I must say I agree with you.  I bought more than a few Starks during this sale.  

I like the game, I do not love it anymore.  

I love my ally mates and friends I play closely with and the friendships I have created. 

I hate what the game has come to.  

I dislike the direction of the game.  
I dislike how we are being taken credit for.
 I dislike how the Dev, both D3 AND Demi, are absent to the issues and concerns we have.
I dislike the stale game play and the lack of the Dev team caring to even address the simplest things like feeders and broke chars (Bishop and now Hammer Cap).  

At the end of the day, I have major issues with the game and this Dev team.  Once the scales tip too much I am out. To bring this full circle, I am 1957 days in and this is the worst it has ever been and this Anniversary IS the worst one yet.  The  lack of anything meaningful and is worse than Anniversary year 2 when we were told “You are suppose to lose”. 

So you hate the state of the game - AND YOU STILL BOUGHT A FEW STARKS.
Yeah, this is how you send the right message, Rockett.

Exactly. Why change something if people are still throwing hundreds of dollars at the game. Just keep sucking up that cash. 

Maybe change something because stagnating is not a long term solution ? It may bring them money not or for the next few months or maybe a year at most, but what about after that ? 

Nick441234

Kletvar said:

Nick441234 said:

Bowgentle said:

The rockett said:

purplemur said:

jp1 said:

Who is this in response to?

It was aimed at the people feigning incredulity about why people are upset with this Anniversary Season

It was me trying to throw back in the face the people who always regress back to:
if you hate the game so much why do you play it;
with if you hate the forum and opinions expressed so much why keep reading and posting? 
it ended up complaining about the people complaining about the people who have complaints. which is a trap for sure and pretty dumb of me. 

Edit-
feeling guilty about spending money on costumes when I am still pissed at the decisions involved and the lack of communication and am probably focusing on the like 3/4 posts that whiff of dev defending and overblowing them. Not trying to start a beef.

I must say I agree with you.  I bought more than a few Starks during this sale.  

I like the game, I do not love it anymore.  

I love my ally mates and friends I play closely with and the friendships I have created. 

I hate what the game has come to.  

I dislike the direction of the game.  
I dislike how we are being taken credit for.
 I dislike how the Dev, both D3 AND Demi, are absent to the issues and concerns we have.
I dislike the stale game play and the lack of the Dev team caring to even address the simplest things like feeders and broke chars (Bishop and now Hammer Cap).  

At the end of the day, I have major issues with the game and this Dev team.  Once the scales tip too much I am out. To bring this full circle, I am 1957 days in and this is the worst it has ever been and this Anniversary IS the worst one yet.  The  lack of anything meaningful and is worse than Anniversary year 2 when we were told “You are suppose to lose”. 

So you hate the state of the game - AND YOU STILL BOUGHT A FEW STARKS.
Yeah, this is how you send the right message, Rockett.

Exactly. Why change something if people are still throwing hundreds of dollars at the game. Just keep sucking up that cash. 

Maybe change something because stagnating is not a long term solution ? It may bring them money not or for the next few months or maybe a year at most, but what about after that ? 

The fact they barely add anything these days has made me feel for at least 6 months now that its basically running on autopilot until people stop spending. Then they'll shut it down. I would suspect there are very few people working on the game now. 

Just look at supports for example. They've vanished off the face of the earth with no suggestion of them ever returning. I genuinely think the game is finished now. 

jp1

Nick441234 said:

Bowgentle said:

The rockett said:

purplemur said:

jp1 said:

Who is this in response to?

It was aimed at the people feigning incredulity about why people are upset with this Anniversary Season

It was me trying to throw back in the face the people who always regress back to:
if you hate the game so much why do you play it;
with if you hate the forum and opinions expressed so much why keep reading and posting? 
it ended up complaining about the people complaining about the people who have complaints. which is a trap for sure and pretty dumb of me. 

Edit-
feeling guilty about spending money on costumes when I am still pissed at the decisions involved and the lack of communication and am probably focusing on the like 3/4 posts that whiff of dev defending and overblowing them. Not trying to start a beef.

I must say I agree with you.  I bought more than a few Starks during this sale.  

I like the game, I do not love it anymore.  

I love my ally mates and friends I play closely with and the friendships I have created. 

I hate what the game has come to.  

I dislike the direction of the game.  
I dislike how we are being taken credit for.
 I dislike how the Dev, both D3 AND Demi, are absent to the issues and concerns we have.
I dislike the stale game play and the lack of the Dev team caring to even address the simplest things like feeders and broke chars (Bishop and now Hammer Cap).  

At the end of the day, I have major issues with the game and this Dev team.  Once the scales tip too much I am out. To bring this full circle, I am 1957 days in and this is the worst it has ever been and this Anniversary IS the worst one yet.  The  lack of anything meaningful and is worse than Anniversary year 2 when we were told “You are suppose to lose”. 

So you hate the state of the game - AND YOU STILL BOUGHT A FEW STARKS.
Yeah, this is how you send the right message, Rockett.

Exactly. Why change something if people are still throwing hundreds of dollars at the game. Just keep sucking up that cash. 

This is easy to say. On the other hand if everyone starts doing it, the game won’t get healthier....it will shut down.

I’m not happy about a lot of things as well, but I still get more enjoyment than grief...this is why I haven’t quit, and it’s why I still support financially. I’ve tried to cut back, but when I see an offer I like, I’m not going to skip it just to prove a point that they won’t even notice.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to add that my Medusa looks fantastic. Since I use her regularly I’m still happy with that purchase. They did put in all the effort for the awesome artwork after all.

Kletvar

Daredevil217 said:

Someone on Line said it best:

"It is THEIR anniversary party.  I guess they are waiting for us to give them presents ($$$)"

This !!! This is the anniversary in a nutshell.

jamesh

Ptahhotep said:

Another piece of evidence that insufficient thought went into this anniversary: the anniversary vault contains fan favourite tokens but the fan favourite store closes a day before the vault. So we’re going to have a vault with tokens for an expired store for a day.

The Fan Favourites tokens will work equally well after they're removed from sale though, so this is a fairly minor complaint in the grand scheme of things.  It isn't like they're giving you tokens for an expired vault where it actually affects the odds of your pulls.

ThaRoadWarrior

I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out this game's development team is down to somewhere between 1-3 full time people doing live ops. Probably a technical designer/producer and a junior engineer, with free-lance art as needed. It's possible the engineer is actually someone from another game who steps in here occasionally to do things like the engine overhaul. Once a game is built, you can do quite a lot with a skeleton crew.

bluewolf

ThaRoadWarrior said:

I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out this game's development team is down to somewhere between 1-3 full time people doing live ops. Probably a technical designer/producer and a junior engineer, with free-lance art as needed. It's possible the engineer is actually someone from another game who steps in here occasionally to do things like the engine overhaul. Once a game is built, you can do quite a lot with a skeleton crew.

You do realize there's a "Credits" button?  There are 18 people listed there, and 2 Writers who I am not 100% convinced do active work on the game.  Frank Tieri is very busy with comic work and Alex Irvine has been a Marvel writer in the past, doesn't appear to be now.

Anyway.....based on Discord chat and the credits etc there are definitely not just 1-3 people involved.  The last podcast interview actually had too many people trying to take part and ended up being a bit of a mess to listen to.

DAZ0273

bluewolf said:

ThaRoadWarrior said:

I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out this game's development team is down to somewhere between 1-3 full time people doing live ops. Probably a technical designer/producer and a junior engineer, with free-lance art as needed. It's possible the engineer is actually someone from another game who steps in here occasionally to do things like the engine overhaul. Once a game is built, you can do quite a lot with a skeleton crew.

You do realize there's a "Credits" button?  There are 18 people listed there, and 2 Writers who I am not 100% convinced do active work on the game.  Frank Tieri is very busy with comic work and Alex Irvine has been a Marvel writer in the past, doesn't appear to be now.

Anyway.....based on Discord chat and the credits etc there are definitely not just 1-3 people involved.  The last podcast interview actually had too many people trying to take part and ended up being a bit of a mess to listen to.

Pretty sure there was a picture of the Dev team posted somewhere around that interview and there was definitely enough it looked like to play a game of Baseball if they so wished.

ThaRoadWarrior

Those people work for Demiurge, or specifically work on this game? On LInkedIn, Demi has 40 employees, but most of the people I see with MPQ in their descriptions all say "worked on..." and have newer games above it.

Also the credits list is likely anyone who's ever worked on the game, and whose content still exists within the game. 

bluewolf

ThaRoadWarrior said:

Those people work for Demiurge, or specifically work on this game? On LInkedIn, Demi has 40 employees, but most of the people I see with MPQ in their descriptions all say "worked on..." and have newer games above it.

Also the credits list is likely anyone who's ever worked on the game, and whose content still exists within the game. 

The Credits has a significant "Alumni" section (3X the current staff maybe?) and they update the Credits when necessary.

I mean 18 people is not a huge group but it's not just a couple people either.

ThaRoadWarrior

Right on. I don't have any insight into the actual state of their shop, I'm just saying that being in-industry myself, you can do a lot with a little bit of staff if your game is largely built and you have a decent amount of developer tools available. 

Bowgentle

bluewolf said:

ThaRoadWarrior said:

Those people work for Demiurge, or specifically work on this game? On LInkedIn, Demi has 40 employees, but most of the people I see with MPQ in their descriptions all say "worked on..." and have newer games above it.

Also the credits list is likely anyone who's ever worked on the game, and whose content still exists within the game. 

The Credits has a significant "Alumni" section (3X the current staff maybe?) and they update the Credits when necessary.

I mean 18 people is not a huge group but it's not just a couple people either.

3 designers, 4 coders.
Hm.

n25philly

jp1 said:

Nick441234 said:

Bowgentle said:

The rockett said:

purplemur said:

jp1 said:

Who is this in response to?

It was aimed at the people feigning incredulity about why people are upset with this Anniversary Season

It was me trying to throw back in the face the people who always regress back to:
if you hate the game so much why do you play it;
with if you hate the forum and opinions expressed so much why keep reading and posting? 
it ended up complaining about the people complaining about the people who have complaints. which is a trap for sure and pretty dumb of me. 

Edit-
feeling guilty about spending money on costumes when I am still pissed at the decisions involved and the lack of communication and am probably focusing on the like 3/4 posts that whiff of dev defending and overblowing them. Not trying to start a beef.

I must say I agree with you.  I bought more than a few Starks during this sale.  

I like the game, I do not love it anymore.  

I love my ally mates and friends I play closely with and the friendships I have created. 

I hate what the game has come to.  

I dislike the direction of the game.  
I dislike how we are being taken credit for.
 I dislike how the Dev, both D3 AND Demi, are absent to the issues and concerns we have.
I dislike the stale game play and the lack of the Dev team caring to even address the simplest things like feeders and broke chars (Bishop and now Hammer Cap).  

At the end of the day, I have major issues with the game and this Dev team.  Once the scales tip too much I am out. To bring this full circle, I am 1957 days in and this is the worst it has ever been and this Anniversary IS the worst one yet.  The  lack of anything meaningful and is worse than Anniversary year 2 when we were told “You are suppose to lose”. 

So you hate the state of the game - AND YOU STILL BOUGHT A FEW STARKS.
Yeah, this is how you send the right message, Rockett.

Exactly. Why change something if people are still throwing hundreds of dollars at the game. Just keep sucking up that cash. 

This is easy to say. On the other hand if everyone starts doing it, the game won’t get healthier....it will shut down.

I’m not happy about a lot of things as well, but I still get more enjoyment than grief...this is why I haven’t quit, and it’s why I still support financially. I’ve tried to cut back, but when I see an offer I like, I’m not going to skip it just to prove a point that they won’t even notice.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to add that my Medusa looks fantastic. Since I use her regularly I’m still happy with that purchase. They did put in all the effort for the awesome artwork after all.

And you are part of the problem.  You don't reward bad behavior

HoundofShadow

Given that some players like to insult the devs regularly or often, I guess the devs did the right thing by not giving them feeder(s). Afterall, you don't reward bad behaviours.

jp1

n25philly said:

jp1 said:

Nick441234 said:

Bowgentle said:

The rockett said:

purplemur said:

jp1 said:

Who is this in response to?

It was aimed at the people feigning incredulity about why people are upset with this Anniversary Season

It was me trying to throw back in the face the people who always regress back to:
if you hate the game so much why do you play it;
with if you hate the forum and opinions expressed so much why keep reading and posting? 
it ended up complaining about the people complaining about the people who have complaints. which is a trap for sure and pretty dumb of me. 

Edit-
feeling guilty about spending money on costumes when I am still pissed at the decisions involved and the lack of communication and am probably focusing on the like 3/4 posts that whiff of dev defending and overblowing them. Not trying to start a beef.

I must say I agree with you.  I bought more than a few Starks during this sale.  

I like the game, I do not love it anymore.  

I love my ally mates and friends I play closely with and the friendships I have created. 

I hate what the game has come to.  

I dislike the direction of the game.  
I dislike how we are being taken credit for.
 I dislike how the Dev, both D3 AND Demi, are absent to the issues and concerns we have.
I dislike the stale game play and the lack of the Dev team caring to even address the simplest things like feeders and broke chars (Bishop and now Hammer Cap).  

At the end of the day, I have major issues with the game and this Dev team.  Once the scales tip too much I am out. To bring this full circle, I am 1957 days in and this is the worst it has ever been and this Anniversary IS the worst one yet.  The  lack of anything meaningful and is worse than Anniversary year 2 when we were told “You are suppose to lose”. 

So you hate the state of the game - AND YOU STILL BOUGHT A FEW STARKS.
Yeah, this is how you send the right message, Rockett.

Exactly. Why change something if people are still throwing hundreds of dollars at the game. Just keep sucking up that cash. 

This is easy to say. On the other hand if everyone starts doing it, the game won’t get healthier....it will shut down.

I’m not happy about a lot of things as well, but I still get more enjoyment than grief...this is why I haven’t quit, and it’s why I still support financially. I’ve tried to cut back, but when I see an offer I like, I’m not going to skip it just to prove a point that they won’t even notice.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to add that my Medusa looks fantastic. Since I use her regularly I’m still happy with that purchase. They did put in all the effort for the awesome artwork after all.

And you are part of the problem.  You don't reward bad behavior

Yeah, I reward good behavior. I purchase bundles I feel are a good deal to encourage them to continue to offer them, I participate in sales so they might continue to have them, I buy items that I appreciate being offered. It only makes sense. 

I pulled back spending outside of those things significantly. That is where I choose to “send my message”.

If at some point I don’t care if the game shuts down, then I’ll quit supporting it.

The Viceroy Returns

ThaRoadWarrior said:

Right on. I don't have any insight into the actual state of their shop, I'm just saying that being in-industry myself, you can do a lot with a little bit of staff if your game is largely built and you have a decent amount of developer tools available. 

Agreed on that, depending on the scope of post release support is required.  That's also assuming they have decent tools though.  Those are often the last thing that gets made, if ever.
The task of making game features often doesn't include "and make it easy to iterate".  Just getting it working can be hard enough, and when you want to make those tools after things have stopped shifting, you're already behind on something else and have to move on...

ThaRoadWarrior

it almost always is built into an F2P game though. You need the ability to author content quickly, and by someone who is non-technical. Or at least not a trained engineer. I would be shocked if there weren't a very easy way for a designer or producer to spin up a new promotion, or for an artist and designer to add a character with minimal effort after all this time. 

jtsings

   Well I have to give credit where credit is due, regarding the anniversary.  I realize that there are people that have no need for ISO, but for probably most, including me, the very long and frequent X2 ISO events were very welcome.  Not that I have any intention of using 4* characters all that much, since I have essentially two 5* champs, but I was able to champ at least five 4*s; which in turn will give me more resources when I get their covers.  Whether or not there was anything else exciting about the anniversary or not, I will have to say this is the most ISO I've gotten in a 3 week period in my 918 days of playing MPQ. So I have to say a hearty THANK YOU for that!  

ThaRoadWarrior

+1 to double iso. I champed 5torm, Devil D, Carnage, Ghost, Eb Venom, and TA Hulk across this anniversary. I also managed to finish Taskmaster, so now I just need to figure out how to get covers for Ham and I'll be good to go.

leoperez90

overall the anniversary was good. it seems that alot of ppl were upset including myself bc it didnt cater to my needs but i say alot of ppl who got iso and champed alot of character bc of it. who champed their first taskmaster or devil dino. and yes it sucked that we didnt get a 5* but alot of ppl got their first kitty pride. overall it was a good anniversary but it wasnt one that alot of vets or 5 star land player enjoyed but alot of other ppl did. good job communication could of been bettter but good job.