New Feature: Costumes! *Updated (11/26/18)

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  • St1nkf1st
    St1nkf1st Posts: 127 Tile Toppler
    next step in this evolution could be offers to buy new board backgrounds and fancy new tile sets...
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    This does feel a bit like supports. A good idea spoiled by it being pay for content. I actually like the idea of different costumes as it would create a difference between characters. When I fight all the Thor's and Okoye's in PVP it would be quite cool seeing the different costumes people chose to put them in. That said, they should all be free additions that you can unlock through gameplay. Sure, make some really, really special ones that only people willing to spend can earn but 90% of them should be free to everyone.  
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,283 Chairperson of the Boards
    Nick441234 said:
    This does feel a bit like supports. A good idea spoiled by it being pay for content. I actually like the idea of different costumes as it would create a difference between characters. When I fight all the Thor's and Okoye's in PVP it would be quite cool seeing the different costumes people chose to put them in. That said, they should all be free additions that you can unlock through gameplay. Sure, make some really, really special ones that only people willing to spend can earn but 90% of them should be free to everyone.  
    I think the best you could hope for would be that these are added value to stuff existing - i.e. added to Supports and other cover deals. The existence of a vault for Luke's costume, whether just testing the water or not, makes me fear these will be as disconnected as Supports currently are. 😑
  • ursopro
    ursopro Posts: 334 Mover and Shaker
    broll said:
    Delete 

    Now on topic, how about you offer an alternative comic cover alongside the costume?
  • jamesh
    jamesh Posts: 1,600 Chairperson of the Boards
    I guess one obvious reason to favour selling costumes over alternate comic covers is exposure.  As I play PVP, I'll probably end up seeing all these new costumes on competitors eventually, which will make them more desirable.
    When would I see alternate comic covers other players have equipped? I suppose I could view their roster, but I do that far less often.
  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yepyep said:
    bbigler said:
    Thanks Brigby, that helps. But it seems to me that management wanted to turn the Art Department's idea into an attempt to increase revenue without actually saying it, which looks bad. I bet the art department would have been happy to give away these costumes for free. 
    I don't know -- I'm willing to pay for a little fun and I'm more than willing to pay something when I know it employs (or at least pays) more artists...

    Absolutely.
    But I'm kinda less willing to pay for a *chance* at getting a new costume that's only available for a short while. It's the problem we already have with supports.
  • Moon Roach
    Moon Roach Posts: 2,863 Chairperson of the Boards

    Just to be 100% clear, because sometimes some of the pronouncements admit of more than one interpretation...

    The statement "Costumes are rare and special - most Costumes will only be available for a limited period of time or only to players who reach particular achievements in the game."

    That means the timeframe for acquiring each of these is limited?  It's not that they disappear after a certain time?  (The latter was my first thought, it looks like everyone else is thinking the former.)  I can't shake this feeling that they'll end up more a subscription than a purchase.  "Want to keep your new shiny after the end of the month?  Don't forget to renew your VIP membership and give MPQ a 5* rating."

  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
    Moon Roach said:

    Just to be 100% clear, because sometimes some of the pronouncements admit of more than one interpretation...

    The statement "Costumes are rare and special - most Costumes will only be available for a limited period of time or only to players who reach particular achievements in the game."

    That means the timeframe for acquiring each of these is limited?  It's not that they disappear after a certain time?  (The latter was my first thought, it looks like everyone else is thinking the former.)  I can't shake this feeling that they'll end up more a subscription than a purchase.  "Want to keep your new shiny after the end of the month?  Don't forget to renew your VIP membership and give MPQ a 5* rating."

    I definitely don't see it panning out that way. I see it as "Announcing the new Daredevil Black Outfit costume! Available in the vaults for this week only!"

    I cannot imagine they'd get anyone to keep costumes as part of a new subscription. Not even if they included it for free in the VIP system.
  • StevO-J
    StevO-J Posts: 751 Critical Contributor
    edited November 2018
    When origionally introduced SWitch and Quicksilver had different art, but they changed from classic to more MCU like outfits pretty soon after. If anything, please do not make us pay for those at a later date. Would be pretty nice to see those  be introduced as some gameplay milestone, or just for free... I know,, the latter will probably not happen, but one can hope.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    Character customization is a good source of additional revenue for the game industry. This tap into the psychology of people wanting to be different and unique. 

    The trend in gaming is that 1)mobile gaming are taking over the PC or console segments and 2) add-on contents/subscription model revenues are surpassing one-time purchase model.

    MPQ is a business entity. They are doing what's best for the business by balancing between free contents and paid contents. There might be free costumes earned via placement available for players in the future, but don't expect MPQ to give free costume(s) majority of the time.

    Like some said, there are three options to purchase costume: 1) VIP purchases 2) HfH 3) vault lucky pull.

    If I were to look at it another way, these three options seem to correspond with three common types of players:

    1) players who are willing to play/support the games short term/long term

    2) dedicated/hardcore F2P players who play religiously, might or might not support the game monetarily

    3) F2P, plays casually and might not purchase anything or has small/tight budget.

    I fall under 2: If I save up my HP, I can purchase the HfH bundle. Group 3 players have to rely on RNG to have a shot at the vault. This feature is not game breaking, so it doesn't affect me and I'm fine if I can't earn them freely.
  • jamesh
    jamesh Posts: 1,600 Chairperson of the Boards
    Or perhaps they could sell Steve Rogers' dark eyebrows?  Or Kamala Kahn's old face? Or Spider-Man's wonky old Bag-Man style art?
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    StevO-J said:
    When origionally introduced SWitch and Quicksilver had different art, but they changed from classic to more MCU like outfits pretty soon after. If anything, please do not make us pay for those at a later date. Would be pretty nice to see those  be introduced as some gameplay milestone, or just for free... I know,, the latter will probably not happen, but one can hope.

    Quicksilver had a comics inspired look at first but was changed to the AoU look when the Movie was released. Scarlet Witch had her Movie look from release, which is a shame. I would love to have her comics look in the game.
  • D4Ni13
    D4Ni13 Posts: 745 Critical Contributor
    edited November 2018
    The idea itself isn't bad, but not like this. It would have made sense for this game to have only one version of a character (let's say Peter Parker) and that characters would have different costumes (that would give him rarity and new look, and new powers). This way you would have your character, because you unlocked it once, and you would compete for covers, that would actually be different costumes. There is no logic behind having 2 5* Peter Parkers, one 3* Peter Parker, and one 1* Peter Parker. We should have 1 Peter Parker period. With different costumes. 2 5* costumes, one 3* costumes and so on. That way, when you would make a reskin it would actually make sense. You would have the ISO for the character leveling, and would have a smaller percent go toward each costume. 

    Having costumes for different or specific version of each char is plain stupid... it adds complexity for nothing. Just my 2 cents. 
  • Ed_Dragonrider
    Ed_Dragonrider Posts: 593 Critical Contributor
    Lukeslad said:
    ....

    - I think we're gonna miss some great skins because how prude the D3 seems to be. For example, I'd love to have the "casual" version of X23 instead of that weird Wolverine-ish one, but it seems it's not gonna happen since D3 is, for some reason, mortally terrified of showing bare midriffs (see MPQ version of Emma Frost).
    I dont know, seems to me, both Ares and Daken have lovely midriffs.... ;)
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,283 Chairperson of the Boards
    Whilst not wanting to completely ignore the very reasonable concerns about how this is going to be implemented, Brigby did ask for some suggestions so here would be mine based upon the assumption that we will get alternate skins which can feature variant versions and not just somebody in a T-shirt.

    (I'm assuming the chances of having some of these otherwise are non-existent).

    Iron-Man of 2020 - This might be my favourite Iron Man armour lookwise.

    Frog-Thor - I don't think there would me much chance of a release as an actual character.

    Captain America - Either the Black Costume or as USAgent with applicable shield.

    Kitty - Shadowcat (blue costume)

    Age of Apocalypse variants

    Valkyrie - Classic comic book version
  • StevO-J
    StevO-J Posts: 751 Critical Contributor
    Quebbster said:
    StevO-J said:
    When origionally introduced SWitch and Quicksilver had different art, but they changed from classic to more MCU like outfits pretty soon after. If anything, please do not make us pay for those at a later date. Would be pretty nice to see those  be introduced as some gameplay milestone, or just for free... I know,, the latter will probably not happen, but one can hope.

    Quicksilver had a comics inspired look at first but was changed to the AoU look when the Movie was released. Scarlet Witch had her Movie look from release, which is a shame. I would love to have her comics look in the game.
    Yeah... I was convinced that SWitch had a red outfit (complete with the red headwear/band thing and all) when she was first  introduced, and that she was changed pretty soon after her introduction. But after some searching I can't find any pictures or other evidence of this so I'm starting to think I'm imagining things. QS had a blue outfit with a diagonal lightning band crossing his chest, not much better or worse than his current art IMO.
  • ZootSax
    ZootSax Posts: 1,819 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ed_Dragonrider said:
    Lukeslad said:
    ....

    - I think we're gonna miss some great skins because how prude the D3 seems to be. For example, I'd love to have the "casual" version of X23 instead of that weird Wolverine-ish one, but it seems it's not gonna happen since D3 is, for some reason, mortally terrified of showing bare midriffs (see MPQ version of Emma Frost).
    I dont know, seems to me, both Ares and Daken have lovely midriffs.... ;)
    ...and who could forget Yelena Belova?

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