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    • andrewvanmarle
      andrewvanmarle Posts: 978 Critical Contributor
      Two questions:
      I saw a creature with leader: elf but we don't have elf tokens, whaddup? 

      And verdant avatar can if loop with that thing that gives angels for each 5 life, no? 
    • Theros
      Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
      since animist awakening is origin, It would be a good idea to revert the nerf.
    • Mburn7
      Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
      wereotter said:
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      Don't forget about Mirrorpool getting the nerf. Wasn't that a paid card too?
      Was it?  That one I don't remember.  I do remember Captain's Claws and Stone Haven Outfitter being paid cards as well.  Ah, the good old days
    • Enygma6
      Enygma6 Posts: 266 Mover and Shaker
      edited July 2018
      andrewvanmarle said:
      Two questions:
      I saw a creature with leader: elf but we don't have elf tokens, whaddup? 

      And verdant avatar can if loop with that thing that gives angels for each 5 life, no? 
      Dwynen’s Elite
    • ElfNeedsFood
      ElfNeedsFood Posts: 944 Critical Contributor
      Kinesia said:
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      They just need to get it to 25 hours of content a day to flip the switch in your brain from "How do I do it all?" to "Which bits do I do?".

      Grin.

      (It actually happens much earlier than 25 hours, but it varies with individual.)
      It hit me when I started playing a second account.  Now the only must plays are coalition events and then it’s the JtH events then daily events. 
    • khurram
      khurram Posts: 1,101 Chairperson of the Boards
      wereotter said:
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      Don't forget about Mirrorpool getting the nerf. Wasn't that a paid card too?
      It wasn't. You are slipping.

      Also having 5 shields doesn't put a dent on it's usability. But it doesn't need a nerf imo anyway.
    • Kinesia
      Kinesia Posts: 1,621 Chairperson of the Boards
      ElfNeedsFood said:
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      It hit me when I started playing a second account.  Now the only must plays are coalition events and then it’s the JtH events then daily events. 

      Making the decision to stop even attempting Trial of the Planes helped so much.

      I also have to never ever ever start Training Ground or Across Ixalan in the morning when they only have 3 hours left because _something_ happens and I don't finish, every single time. If I haven't done them before bedtime I have to just let it go.
    • HarryMason
      HarryMason Posts: 136 Tile Toppler
      I. Just. Caught. Up. Levelling. Wttk? It's not even a new 3c walker .It's just another bolas. I have incredibly mixed feels about this. On the other hand ,absolutely everything else looks really promising. Quit messing wit muh 'motions! 
    • bk1234
      bk1234 Posts: 2,924 Chairperson of the Boards
      HarryMason said:
      I. Just. Caught. Up. Levelling. Wttk? It's not even a new 3c walker .It's just another bolas. I have incredibly mixed feels about this. On the other hand ,absolutely everything else looks really promising. Quit messing wit muh 'motions! 
      @HarryMason I’m hoping since they mentioned both he will be a flipper like Arlinn. 
    • gogol666
      gogol666 Posts: 316 Mover and Shaker
      What? Standard training ground is only half of the days? This must be a joke
    • Brakkis
      Brakkis Posts: 777 Critical Contributor
      gogol666 said:
      What? Standard training ground is only half of the days? This must be a joke
      Um... what? I'm not seeing anything about it being half of anything.
    • James13
      James13 Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
      edited July 2018
      andrewvanmarle said:
      Two questions:
      I saw a creature with leader: elf but we don't have elf tokens, whaddup? 

      And verdant avatar can if loop with that thing that gives angels for each 5 life, no? 
      Dwynen's Elite makes exactly one elf warrior token when it enters if another elf is in play.  So there is one.

      Verdant avatar will not loop the reinforcing angel as reinforcement by that means is NOT an ETB trigger.

      There are multiple test cases where you can view that reinforcement =/= ETB.  For example if you run Verdant Force alongside slimefoot, when slimefoot eats a saproling token during creation to reinforce it will not trigger Verdant Force.  Elenda getting reinforced via creature death will not trigger other ETB relevant triggers.  Squee becoming reinforced after re-entry will not give any additional ETB beyond his initial one.

      Look for the create/summon keyword for things that trigger ETB.
    • gogol666
      gogol666 Posts: 316 Mover and Shaker
      Brakkis said:
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      Um... what? I'm not seeing anything about it being half of anything.
      Check the update to training grounds rule in sneak peak
    • madwren
      madwren Posts: 2,261 Chairperson of the Boards
      Mburn7 said:
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      It's probably the same thing that they did with Leader.  You only put in on a few cards to get all the bugs ironed out, and then start using it as a normal mechanic going forward.  


      Indeed, I alluded to that above. However, two cards--I suppose three if you count Naru being retroactively changed--isn't really an effective testing environment, especially since two are mythics and not likely to be in wide circulation.  It's simply an odd choice not to give flash to say, Naturalize or Abnormal Endurance--both instants that provide disparate effects, so that you could test creature removal, support removal, and creature buffing during combat without breaking the game.


    • wereotter
      wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
      khurram said:
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      It wasn't. You are slipping.

      Also having 5 shields doesn't put a dent on it's usability. But it doesn't need a nerf imo anyway.
      To be fair, I wasn't playing during the Zendikar block. Just thought I remembered reading someone else saying it was a purchased card ;)

      I only came into the game just before Eldritch Moon launched.
    • Mburn7
      Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
      wereotter said:
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      I only came into the game just before Eldritch Moon launched.
      Noob  :D:D
    • Aeroplane
      Aeroplane Posts: 314 Mover and Shaker
      edited July 2018
      khurram said:
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      I see. Although TotP never gave 25 jewels so it's still the same. To be fair AX also originally used to give 20 jewels instead of 25.

      @Brigby you guys should be upfront about such changes in the pre-release notes. It takes just one sentence to state the reasoning behind it. But sneaking up the changes without prior intimation causes the kind of backlash that ruins everyones day.

      khurram said:
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      I see. Although TotP never gave 25 jewels so it's still the same. To be fair AX also originally used to give 20 jewels instead of 25.

      @Brigby you guys should be upfront about such changes in the pre-release notes. It takes just one sentence to state the reasoning behind it. But sneaking up the changes without prior intimation causes the kind of backlash that ruins everyones day.

      khurram said:
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      I see. Although TotP never gave 25 jewels so it's still the same. To be fair AX also originally used to give 20 jewels instead of 25.

      @Brigby you guys should be upfront about such changes in the pre-release notes. It takes just one sentence to state the reasoning behind it. But sneaking up the changes without prior intimation causes the kind of backlash that ruins everyones day.

      Well, there is the nerf to progression awards in Across Ixalan to counter the non-dupe elite pack. 2-6 from 3-7 pink gems. Not a bad trade off, though.
    • khurram
      khurram Posts: 1,101 Chairperson of the Boards
      Aeroplane said:
      Well, there is the nerf to progression awards in Across Ixalan to counter the non-dupe elite pack. 2-6 from 3-7 pink gems. Not a bad trade off, though.
      Where did you see this
    • Aeroplane
      Aeroplane Posts: 314 Mover and Shaker
      edited July 2018
      khurram said:
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      Where did you see this
      In the july sneak peak edition reward changes. Sorry, I reposted it again in the correct thread. TG got a mana rune bump . 
    • khurram
      khurram Posts: 1,101 Chairperson of the Boards
      edited July 2018
      Aeroplane said:
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      In the july sneak peak edition reward changes. Sorry, I reposted it again in the correct thread. TG got a mana rune bump and the trials got the same AI chop.
      I see. Although TotP never gave 25 jewels so it's still the same. To be fair AX also originally used to give 20 jewels instead of 25.

      @Brigby you guys should be upfront about such changes in the pre-release notes. It takes just one sentence to state the reasoning behind it. But sneaking up the changes without prior intimation causes the kind of backlash that ruins everyones day.

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