Random MPQ Thoughts

sambrookjm

With Colossus boosted in the latest PvE, it's funny to watch him "tank" for a couple of 5-stars who have at least twice his health.

"Don't worry, Thanos.  I'll protect you!"

Kojubat

Someone mentioned the "cannot be stunned" attribute on the 1v1 side nodes in Battle at the Basilica, which makes sense in that you don't want it to be a trivial thing to avoid the massive match damage, never mind powers.

What I find amusing is that if you wanted to fight that side boss thematically, just about every Spiderverse hero has a stun power (exceptions being Agent Venom, Iron Spider and Spider-Ham) - sometimes as the primary gimmick of their power set. Heck, even if you branch out to fight Kingpin with Daredevil, both versions have stun powers as well.

ZootSax

I was playing Colossus with 3* Deadpool in today’s DDQ, both as a tribute to Deadpool’s movies and to get the Whale points for the day.

Whenever Colossus does his Fastball Special and Deadpool fires his Whales as a result (which happened every time Colossus used his black today), I like to picture Deadpool
riding the whale to the ground like Maj Kong in Dr Strangelove. It just seems appropriate.

sambrookjm

ZootSax said:

I was playing Colossus with 3* Deadpool in today’s DDQ, both as a tribute to Deadpool’s movies and to get the Whale points for the day.

Whenever Colossus does his Fastball Special and Deadpool fires his Whales as a result (which happened every time Colossus used his black today), I like to picture Deadpool
riding the whale to the ground like Maj Kong in Dr Strangelove. It just seems appropriate.

Survival Kit contents:  8 Yellow AP.  13 Black AP.  14 Purple AP.  Dozens of large marine mammals.  2 sweet ninja-swords.  Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

kk3thess

I still wonder to this day what kind of pictures Jessica Jones takes from the other character to cause such injuries.

TPF Alexis

kk3thess said:

I still wonder to this day what kind of pictures Jessica Jones takes from the other character to cause such injuries.

The predecessor to this thread was pretty much about that. Then I started noticing more odd and amusing things and made a broader thread for them.

Recently, close to a third of the Standard Tokens I've pulled have been 1* Juggernaut. I kind of feel like they're mocking me, given how long it's been since I picked up a 4* Bonus Hero (Which would let me champ 4* Juggy).

sambrookjm

TPF Alexis said:

kk3thess said:

I still wonder to this day what kind of pictures Jessica Jones takes from the other character to cause such injuries.

The predecessor to this thread was pretty much about that. Then I started noticing more odd and amusing things and made a broader thread for them.

Recently, close to a third of the Standard Tokens I've pulled have been 1* Juggernaut. I kind of feel like they're mocking me, given how long it's been since I picked up a 4* Bonus Hero (Which would let me champ 4* Juggy).

I had to pull about 65 LTs to get a Juggy bonus hero cover so he could reach LVL 209 for SHIELD training.  I can't complain too much, though, since I also got a 5-star bonus hero in those 65 pulls to champ Silver Surfer.

Now with the 250 CP for the Black Bolt cover, he's only one non-green cover away from being Champ #8.

MrEd95

I’ve just been thinking, and realised, that the recent run of characters has been really good:

Worthy Cap
Human Torch
Professor X
Juggernaut
Iceman
Mysterio
Black Cat
Storm
Sabretooth

Now obviously some of these are meta like juggy, and some are just pretty good, like black cat, but there are no duds here. No fatpins or Emma frosts to be seen for miles!

It almost makes me wonder if we are due a bad one soon. They can’t all be good right?

jp1

One of these things is not like the others...

Dhaunas

MrEd95 said:

I’ve just been thinking, and realised, that the recent run of characters has been really good:

Worthy Cap
Human Torch
Professor X
Juggernaut
Iceman
Mysterio
Black Cat
Storm
Sabretooth

Now obviously some of these are meta like juggy, and some are just pretty good, like black cat, but there are no duds here. No fatpins or Emma frosts to be seen for miles!

It almost makes me wonder if we are due a bad one soon. They can’t all be good right?

No duds? *cough* Mysterio *cough*

TPF Alexis

Mysterio needs a team built with him in mind, but he's not actually bad. He could do serious work alongside, say, C4rol and Medusa. No need for blue, the team does want yellow and purple, and he generated Countdowns for C4rol. That's just off the top of my head.

There are also a lot of teams he is terrible with, but that's a function of the team as a whole, not him in and of himself.

jp1

TPF Alexis said:

Mysterio needs a team built with him in mind, but he's not actually bad. He could do serious work alongside, say, C4rol and Medusa. No need for blue, the team does want yellow and purple, and he generated Countdowns for C4rol. That's just off the top of my head.

There are also a lot of teams he is terrible with, but that's a function of the team as a whole, not him in and of himself.

I’d argue that he isn’t exactly good either. Still, a great run of really good to excellent characters...but, not Mysterio. He is low tier IMO. Not a Talos or Emma, but nowhere near a Juggs or Sabretooth.

If you build the right team, almost anyone can be decent. I watch Rick Oshay often take teams that should lose and dominate with them. I don’t think that makes the characters good, but the player skill there is on a level where even challenging tools get the job done.

TPF Alexis

jp1 said:

TPF Alexis said:

Mysterio needs a team built with him in mind, but he's not actually bad. He could do serious work alongside, say, C4rol and Medusa. No need for blue, the team does want yellow and purple, and he generated Countdowns for C4rol. That's just off the top of my head.

There are also a lot of teams he is terrible with, but that's a function of the team as a whole, not him in and of himself.

I’d argue that he isn’t exactly good either. Still, a great run of really good to excellent characters...but, not Mysterio. He is low tier IMO. Not a Talos or Emma, but nowhere near a Juggs or Sabretooth.

If you build the right team, almost anyone can be decent. I watch Rick Oshay often take teams that should lose and dominate with them. I don’t think that makes the characters good, but the player skill there is on a level where even challenging tools get the job done.

Mysterio, I'd compare more to Kraven. He's niche, but he does his job well in that niche. He's a battery character, but one that most teams don't have a need for, and because one of his powers is passive, it can end up hindering a lot of teams that rely on blue.

But I'd wager he'd be rated much higher if he produced, say, red and green from yellow and purple rather than yellow from blue and purple from yellow, even if nothing else changed. The problem isn't inherently with him, it's the lack of teams in the 4* meta that need yellow and/or purple batteries.

jp1

TPF Alexis said:

jp1 said:

TPF Alexis said:

Mysterio needs a team built with him in mind, but he's not actually bad. He could do serious work alongside, say, C4rol and Medusa. No need for blue, the team does want yellow and purple, and he generated Countdowns for C4rol. That's just off the top of my head.

There are also a lot of teams he is terrible with, but that's a function of the team as a whole, not him in and of himself.

I’d argue that he isn’t exactly good either. Still, a great run of really good to excellent characters...but, not Mysterio. He is low tier IMO. Not a Talos or Emma, but nowhere near a Juggs or Sabretooth.

If you build the right team, almost anyone can be decent. I watch Rick Oshay often take teams that should lose and dominate with them. I don’t think that makes the characters good, but the player skill there is on a level where even challenging tools get the job done.

Mysterio, I'd compare more to Kraven. He's niche, but he does his job well in that niche. He's a battery character, but one that most teams don't have a need for, and because one of his powers is passive, it can end up hindering a lot of teams that rely on blue.

But I'd wager he'd be rated much higher if he produced, say, red and green from yellow and purple rather than yellow from blue and purple from yellow, even if nothing else changed. The problem isn't inherently with him, it's the lack of teams in the 4* meta that need yellow and/or purple batteries.

That’s a good point. I agree those changes would make him far more useful.

MrEd95

TPF Alexis said:

Mysterio needs a team built with him in mind, but he's not actually bad. He could do serious work alongside, say, C4rol and Medusa. No need for blue, the team does want yellow and purple, and he generated Countdowns for C4rol. That's just off the top of my head.

There are also a lot of teams he is terrible with, but that's a function of the team as a whole, not him in and of himself.

Yeah, he isn’t exactly a heavy hitter, but he isn’t supposed to be. His role is as support for yellow/purple users. And at that, he is pretty good. Not meta, but a long way from being a dud.

Definitely niche though. I stand by my original statement 

AXP_isme

Unfortunately there are a lot of yellow or purple users who have pretty good blue powers, certainly in the 4* tier. On a lot of teams he would be counterproductive which tends to give people a bad impression of him. 

Personally I’m not impressed but in a team with strikes to buff the passive blue and trap damage or with someone like 5* daredevil who punishes stuns I could see him being passable. No matter how bad he is, he’s no Talos. So that’s something. 

ZootSax

TPF Alexis said:

There are also a lot of teams (Mysterio) is terrible with... 

We call these teams PVE/Shield Training loaner teams

I think the comparison of Mysterio to Kraven is a good one, even if Kraven does have a direct damage power on his side to tip those scales slightly.

@MrEd95 's point is a very good one: the recent run of characters has been solid-to-excellent.

DAZ0273

Hearts of Darkness features The Hood as the 3E...now is this the same Hood who is also the bad guy in HOD? I guess ANYBODY could wear a hood, right? Maybe The Hood is actually somebody pretending to be The Hood? Maybe it is Wiccan! He has a hood sometimes and it is the only way for him to get boosted! Or is our one maybe an illusion created by Mysterio? Maybe it is Ninja trickery going on here? Or Mephisto?!?!?

So confused.

jp1

It is harder to obtain a meaningful amount of ISO than it is to obtain a meaningful amount of real world cash. I guess that is reflected in the pricing. Mystery solved, ISO is the new bitcoin.

TriggerTime

I can't believe I've been playing all these years, and I still don't know what 'Dormammu Said'.