Waddles_Pines said: Now that there's so many 4*, maybe instead of the 12 latest, make 12-15 characters have increased odds. Use the CoT order and change it every season. That way you'll get a good mix of new and old. Another idea is to have seasonal vaults. Instead of boosting the odds of 12 chars, vault some and then rotate at season end.Lastly, I put this in suggestings a while ago; give us the ability to mark a small number of characters as being exempt from being pulled. Kinda an anti-bonus mechanic....** Also why are Iron Spidey, Widow still marked as "new". If there's no increased odds for latest, there's no need to make than only available after the season...**
Nick441234 said: Did this get dropped already or something? Noticing Daken's store in PVP is also displaying the old odds too. So thats only one event in three now that 4* odds have been increased in stores.
Nick441234 said: All these different odds. Why? It should be 1:11 for a 4* in ALL PVP stores. I just dont get all these shifting of odds when you really can only benefits from increased 4* odds in these PVP stores.
tiomono said: Waddles_Pines said: Now that there's so many 4*, maybe instead of the 12 latest, make 12-15 characters have increased odds. Use the CoT order and change it every season. That way you'll get a good mix of new and old. Another idea is to have seasonal vaults. Instead of boosting the odds of 12 chars, vault some and then rotate at season end.Lastly, I put this in suggestings a while ago; give us the ability to mark a small number of characters as being exempt from being pulled. Kinda an anti-bonus mechanic....** Also why are Iron Spidey, Widow still marked as "new". If there's no increased odds for latest, there's no need to make than only available after the season...** They have tried seasonal vaulting in the past. I remember not liking it.Bonus heroes are there to give you increased odds on specific characters of your choice and it actually works fairly well.I find the idea of reverse bonus hero interesting. It could be very confusing to new players though. If you are trying to collect characters why would you want to decide not to collect certain characters.
KGB said: Rockett,Not sure if you pulled from latest (100) or classic (125) but assuming it was latest you had 280 pulls (238 4* at 85%) and 900*.07=63. So roughly 301 4* pulls. At 60+ 4* you should expect roughly 5 of each and that's essentially what you got.Presumably you didn't have either set as a BH since you should have gotten 15 or so BH's.The math says with 60 4* characters that you need 780 4* (60*13) to fully cover from scratch. If you can earn 3-4 from the release + PvE + PvP it lowers it to 540 (60*9) 4*. Note that's 4* not tokens since if your pulling just legendary you have to add 15% more due to the 5*s you'll get.Bottom line is that if your hoarding to 300 legendary tokens you roughly have to do that twice to cover a 4* that gets released now. This is why it may be better for 3* players to hoard and skip right to 5* land with 6 fully covered 5* (600-700ish tokens opened in 2 groups of 300-350) and as a bonus they cover all the 4*s too.KGB
Daiches said: KGB said: Rockett,Not sure if you pulled from latest (100) or classic (125) but assuming it was latest you had 280 pulls (238 4* at 85%) and 900*.07=63. So roughly 301 4* pulls. At 60+ 4* you should expect roughly 5 of each and that's essentially what you got.Presumably you didn't have either set as a BH since you should have gotten 15 or so BH's.The math says with 60 4* characters that you need 780 4* (60*13) to fully cover from scratch. If you can earn 3-4 from the release + PvE + PvP it lowers it to 540 (60*9) 4*. Note that's 4* not tokens since if your pulling just legendary you have to add 15% more due to the 5*s you'll get.Bottom line is that if your hoarding to 300 legendary tokens you roughly have to do that twice to cover a 4* that gets released now. This is why it may be better for 3* players to hoard and skip right to 5* land with 6 fully covered 5* (600-700ish tokens opened in 2 groups of 300-350) and as a bonus they cover all the 4*s too.KGB The sheer amount of time it would take for a 3star roster to gain that much resources, not to mention spare ISO not to waste all the 4star covers is staggering to think about. Though it is more realistically possible now that they can get 15cp progression again. The odds the player will burn out long before is also more realistic though.
KGB said: Daiches said: KGB said: Rockett,Not sure if you pulled from latest (100) or classic (125) but assuming it was latest you had 280 pulls (238 4* at 85%) and 900*.07=63. So roughly 301 4* pulls. At 60+ 4* you should expect roughly 5 of each and that's essentially what you got.Presumably you didn't have either set as a BH since you should have gotten 15 or so BH's.The math says with 60 4* characters that you need 780 4* (60*13) to fully cover from scratch. If you can earn 3-4 from the release + PvE + PvP it lowers it to 540 (60*9) 4*. Note that's 4* not tokens since if your pulling just legendary you have to add 15% more due to the 5*s you'll get.Bottom line is that if your hoarding to 300 legendary tokens you roughly have to do that twice to cover a 4* that gets released now. This is why it may be better for 3* players to hoard and skip right to 5* land with 6 fully covered 5* (600-700ish tokens opened in 2 groups of 300-350) and as a bonus they cover all the 4*s too.KGB The sheer amount of time it would take for a 3star roster to gain that much resources, not to mention spare ISO not to waste all the 4star covers is staggering to think about. Though it is more realistically possible now that they can get 15cp progression again. The odds the player will burn out long before is also more realistic though. It takes roughly a year of hoarding. I know because I did it This was back before shield clearance levels so I had a soft capped 3* roster so I could snag 1 4* cover in every PvE. I saved every CP / LT etc for roughly a year because the dilution was already bad then (40ish 4*).The day vaulting went live (which was also essentially immediately after SCL let me uncap my roster), I opened a ton of LT's + CP (1/2 of everything I had) and covered all 12 of the latest top 4* like Peggy, Medusa etc. I had something like 5 million ISO saved so it was easy to champ them all. Changed the game for me because I immediately had 4* champs.I realize not everyone can do that. But right now you need 60000 HP to roster 60 4*. By the time a player opens roughly 70 LT's (adding in a few 5* that gives them) they will have 1 of ever cover. Either they have 60K hero points or they start tossing covers. Hence hoarding at least gives them a chance to not waste all those tokens because by the time you have 3* champs you can probably earn enough hero points to roster the 4* earned in PvE progression.KGB