Daredevil217 said: All while keeping my 3s.
Straycat said: Daredevil217 said: All while keeping my 3s. Hmm, so opening tokens built up your 2* farm and gained a shield rank, which let you cash in the iso you need. Almost as if hoarding and being dedicated to keeping every max 3* champ is forcing yourself into an iso crunch.
Daredevil217 said: I have four 4s in need of champing. But yeah, open more tokens... that's the ticket!
Straycat said: Daredevil217 said: I have four 4s in need of champing. But yeah, open more tokens... that's the ticket! Yea, the odds are you will pull mostly champ levels, which you just acknowledged that it helped you. But sure, clear your vine first then.
Daredevil217 said: Straycat said: Daredevil217 said: I have four 4s in need of champing. But yeah, open more tokens... that's the ticket! Yea, the odds are you will pull mostly champ levels, which you just acknowledged that it helped you. But sure, clear your vine first then. Oh not pulling 4s was never about waste, that was about wanting to target or avoid (hello Angel) certain 5* characters.Hoarding other tokens was due to trying to avoid pulling more threes for the time being. That should change shortly because as I stated, I'm almost done with the 4s and not planning to level my 5s anytime soon. The thing about keeping the maxed 3s is while it creates a crunch, that is still money in the bank if you REALLY need it. So it is not like it's wasteful. And while one may argue I'm "slowing my progress", the reality is if I sold all my maxed threes (along with the 2s I'm going to HAVE to sell) to fund my 4s today it really wouldn't move the needle in terms of my roster strength. Having 67 maxed 4s instead of 63 is not going to launch me into a new stratosphere competitively. So I can hoard/slow-play and take my time. Once the vine is cleared I can continue to champ 4s and dupe 3s as I earn covers without pulling. And those tokens aren't going anywhere. They are also money in the bank. But if I just open them all indiscriminately, then it's money I likely can't spend.
Straycat said: Daredevil217 said: Straycat said: Daredevil217 said: I have four 4s in need of champing. But yeah, open more tokens... that's the ticket! Yea, the odds are you will pull mostly champ levels, which you just acknowledged that it helped you. But sure, clear your vine first then. Oh not pulling 4s was never about waste, that was about wanting to target or avoid (hello Angel) certain 5* characters.Hoarding other tokens was due to trying to avoid pulling more threes for the time being. That should change shortly because as I stated, I'm almost done with the 4s and not planning to level my 5s anytime soon. The thing about keeping the maxed 3s is while it creates a crunch, that is still money in the bank if you REALLY need it. So it is not like it's wasteful. And while one may argue I'm "slowing my progress", the reality is if I sold all my maxed threes (along with the 2s I'm going to HAVE to sell) to fund my 4s today it really wouldn't move the needle in terms of my roster strength. Having 67 maxed 4s instead of 63 is not going to launch me into a new stratosphere competitively. So I can hoard/slow-play and take my time. Once the vine is cleared I can continue to champ 4s and dupe 3s as I earn covers without pulling. And those tokens aren't going anywhere. They are also money in the bank. But if I just open them all indiscriminately, then it's money I likely can't spend. My thing is, you have complained about your iso crunch, while you sat on a mountain of resources. I said "do what I do and open tokens", you said "no that would make things worse". Then you opened some tokens and now you are on the precipice of being post iso. Guess I'll never get you to agree that I was right the whole time.
Daredevil217 said: Straycat said: Daredevil217 said: Straycat said: Daredevil217 said: I have four 4s in need of champing. But yeah, open more tokens... that's the ticket! Yea, the odds are you will pull mostly champ levels, which you just acknowledged that it helped you. But sure, clear your vine first then. Oh not pulling 4s was never about waste, that was about wanting to target or avoid (hello Angel) certain 5* characters.Hoarding other tokens was due to trying to avoid pulling more threes for the time being. That should change shortly because as I stated, I'm almost done with the 4s and not planning to level my 5s anytime soon. The thing about keeping the maxed 3s is while it creates a crunch, that is still money in the bank if you REALLY need it. So it is not like it's wasteful. And while one may argue I'm "slowing my progress", the reality is if I sold all my maxed threes (along with the 2s I'm going to HAVE to sell) to fund my 4s today it really wouldn't move the needle in terms of my roster strength. Having 67 maxed 4s instead of 63 is not going to launch me into a new stratosphere competitively. So I can hoard/slow-play and take my time. Once the vine is cleared I can continue to champ 4s and dupe 3s as I earn covers without pulling. And those tokens aren't going anywhere. They are also money in the bank. But if I just open them all indiscriminately, then it's money I likely can't spend. My thing is, you have complained about your iso crunch, while you sat on a mountain of resources. I said "do what I do and open tokens", you said "no that would make things worse". Then you opened some tokens and now you are on the precipice of being post iso. Guess I'll never get you to agree that I was right the whole time. You don’t get it and that’s okay.Hoarding works for me because just by virtue of event rewards and whatnot I will inevitably have something new to champ and the golden rule for many is don’t open more tokens until you make room and have iso to champ what’s on your vine currently. Even with hoarding there’s usually something new on my vine. And if not I have plenty to invest in for when something does eventually get on the queue. I had around 220 iso earlier today (about as low as it gets) but it was because I was able to clear that huge vine I mentioned earlier (four 4*s and two 3*s. Also was able to flip a 2* as well). Luckily I had been hoarding which allowed me to slowly bring half those 4s up to level 229 and I had about 550k invested in my maxed 2* bank to allow me to champ all that. I could open all my tokens as you suggest but still dont have a clear vine. While gathering iso for everyone on my vine I ended up landing three 3* Luke Cage covers there and his dupe needs 127k to rechamp. You can say you were right, but all I know is through my method of hoarding I now only have three 4* left to champ... total. I will crack more of my LT/CP hoard again once Okoye enters to finish Jess. But until then, and after that I’ll be focusing on my 2s and 3s as they are falling at a fast enough rate naturally that I don’t need to open tokens to accelerate it. I still need 5 million iso left to rechamp the remaining 3s (only 8 done currently) but only 1 million needed to champ the rest of the 4s!