OSCORP HEROIC - MAY 8-14

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  • It's isolated to the current city event (so it's per sub), IceIX confirmed earlier. icon_e_sad.gif
    It's not quite clear, that confirmation might just be in regards to rubberbanding depending on the global leader of the sub, not how it carries over.
  • IceIX wrote:
    :lol:
    I just noticed the global points goal went up from 200M to 400M.
    I guess too many people were grinding away too hard.
    That was my doing/fault. Raised the alarm that City would be finished by midnight or sooner PST at this rate and that's way too quick. Designers looked at points in-flow with the knowledge of the average curve compared to previous Score Target Events, agreed, and flipped a few switches to raise the score. So hate or thank me for that as is your desire. icon_razz.gif

    Did you also tell them to screw up the rubberbanding when they changed the totals? All my nodes are now BASE values and the node I was in the middle of gave over 1k less points than it was meant to. My total score is naff all because I just started.
  • Unknown
    edited May 2014
    IceIX wrote:
    That was my doing/fault. Raised the alarm that City would be finished by midnight or sooner PST at this rate and that's way too quick. Designers looked at points in-flow with the knowledge of the average curve compared to previous Score Target Events, agreed, and flipped a few switches to raise the score. So hate or thank me for that as is your desire. icon_razz.gif
    I did thank you originally, but I edited and now take back my thanks since resetting the node values means this event has been totally futzed up.
    It looks like those in the lead at the global points goal changeover are now impossible to catch, unless D3 fixes it.
  • JamieMadrox
    JamieMadrox Posts: 1,798 Chairperson of the Boards
    bonfire01 wrote:
    IceIX wrote:
    :lol:
    I just noticed the global points goal went up from 200M to 400M.
    I guess too many people were grinding away too hard.
    That was my doing/fault. Raised the alarm that City would be finished by midnight or sooner PST at this rate and that's way too quick. Designers looked at points in-flow with the knowledge of the average curve compared to previous Score Target Events, agreed, and flipped a few switches to raise the score. So hate or thank me for that as is your desire. icon_razz.gif

    Did you also tell them to screw up the rubberbanding when they changed the totals? All my nodes are now BASE values and the node I was in the middle of gave over 1k less points than it was meant to. My total score is naff all because I just started.
    Same here. My nodes went from 100-200 to 50-75.
  • daveomite
    daveomite Posts: 1,331 Chairperson of the Boards
    bonfire01 wrote:
    IceIX wrote:
    :lol:
    I just noticed the global points goal went up from 200M to 400M.
    I guess too many people were grinding away too hard.
    That was my doing/fault. Raised the alarm that City would be finished by midnight or sooner PST at this rate and that's way too quick. Designers looked at points in-flow with the knowledge of the average curve compared to previous Score Target Events, agreed, and flipped a few switches to raise the score. So hate or thank me for that as is your desire. icon_razz.gif

    Did you also tell them to screw up the rubberbanding when they changed the totals? All my nodes are now BASE values and the node I was in the middle of gave over 1k less points than it was meant to. My total score is naff all because I just started.
    Same here. My nodes went from 100-200 to 50-75.

    same, nodes cut to less than half what they were
  • bonfire01 wrote:
    Did you also tell them to screw up the rubberbanding when they changed the totals? All my nodes are now BASE values and the node I was in the middle of gave over 1k less points than it was meant to. My total score is naff all because I just started.
    Guess I'll also opt for hate rather than thanks. Hadn't started the sub event yet, just the main one. Now the top few hundred players in my main bracket have more points than I can hope to catch up to, even if I grind down nodes to a single point. Any chance to get assigned to a new main bracket that doesn't require me to start two miles behind the start line?
  • wow got home just in time to see this heroic...

    and i dont have any of those three stars but at least i have thor cap and storm modern that will be powered. hopefully i'll rank high enough to get Mags back.
  • daveomite wrote:
    same, nodes cut to less than half what they were

    It's far worse if you just started. My nodes went down by 75% and I am miles behind first place in main bracket. If I were to grind EVERY node to 1 point I would still be well behind and I would be scaled to hell with a limited roster. Don't see how they could decide to change scores after people have already had the chance to get so far ahead...
  • Unknown
    edited May 2014
    um, did points per node just plummet for everyone?

    edit: yeah seems like thats the case,

    its pretty tinykitteny that this would happen and main bracket is now out of reach for me. will have to work kitten off just to get top 50
  • fedlex20
    fedlex20 Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker
    edited May 2014
    daveomite wrote:
    Knock3r wrote:
    daveomite wrote:
    Bar looks to already be almost half way now. After my first clear at the beginning, I have less than 4k points, and now about 4k behind the leader.

    FYI, if you go to the Event Rules tab, it tells you the completion rate. As of this post, the bar is 35% complete.

    I did not realize that, thanks. And right, it's not at 50% yet, but certainly close. At this rate, it may be gone before midnight eat time.

    Wait wait wait

    My sub is only 18% done. So is it possible for some people to do more subs than others? Lets say your sub ends in 6 or 7 hours. And mine in 12. By the end of the event you would have done (lets imagine we get the same type of brackets and not every sub ends with such a difference) one sub or maybe 2 more than me, right? And you would have a clearer shot at the red patch.
    I think im missing something though...


    Edit: I was seeing it after the global target hike. From 200M to 400M. Its the same for everyone.
  • Huh...prior to the tweaks I could have gotten close to the leaders of my brackets. Now the points have dropped and it's not remotely possible. icon_e_sad.gif
  • Yeah, resetting the node values appears to me to be a screw up.

    Does this mean that those at the top when the changeover occurred now have insurmountable leads?
  • fedlex20 wrote:
    daveomite wrote:
    Knock3r wrote:
    daveomite wrote:
    Bar looks to already be almost half way now. After my first clear at the beginning, I have less than 4k points, and now about 4k behind the leader.

    FYI, if you go to the Event Rules tab, it tells you the completion rate. As of this post, the bar is 35% complete.

    I did not realize that, thanks. And right, it's not at 50% yet, but certainly close. At this rate, it may be gone before midnight eat time.

    Wait wait wait

    My sub is only 18% done. So is it possible for some people to do more subs than others? Lets say your sub ends in 6 or 7 hours. And mine in 12. By the end of the event you would have done (lets imagine we get the same type of brackets and not every sub ends with such a difference) one sub or maybe 2 more than me, right? And you would have a clearer shot at the red patch.
    I think im missing something though...

    Everyone's subs have the same target bar progress, which is 18%. It was 35% previously, but the target amount just got doubled, therefore cutting the overall progress in half to 18%.
  • IceIX wrote:
    :lol:
    I just noticed the global points goal went up from 200M to 400M.
    I guess too many people were grinding away too hard.
    That was my doing/fault. Raised the alarm that City would be finished by midnight or sooner PST at this rate and that's way too quick. Designers looked at points in-flow with the knowledge of the average curve compared to previous Score Target Events, agreed, and flipped a few switches to raise the score. So hate or thank me for that as is your desire. icon_razz.gif

    Fine-tuning is fine but I think trying to keep things transparent is important. With no fixed time, goal points moving and rubberbanding, it's going to be pretty hard to predict when a sub ends and people either have to keep checking the game 24/7 or might as well just leave it to luck.
  • Yeah, resetting the node values appears to me to be a screw up.

    Does this mean that those at the top when the changeover occurred now have insurmountable leads?

    Seems possible. I'm 4k behind in my main, and my highest nodes give about 200 points.
  • I really feel they should extend the amount of people to get 2 daken covers thanks to this changing of point scale so half of a player group are absolutely out of luck less than a day into an event....
  • Pjoe0211 wrote:
    its pretty tinykitteny that this would happen and main bracket is now out of reach for me. will have to work kitten off just to get top 50
    Same here. It's going to be next to impossible to catch up, people in my bracket have almost 10k points headstart. Given the new mission point values and the topmost progression reward at 50k points that seems to be close to a two day advantage. Say goodbye to those covers, we've been removed from the race right at the start.
  • DubbaHuss
    DubbaHuss Posts: 110 Tile Toppler
    Guys, What's up with the point scaling. I did Brute Force at 1720 points, walk away for five minutes, and Rampage is worth 400 points. How am I ever going to catch up?
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  • Pjoe0211 wrote:
    I really feel they should extend the amount of people to get 2 daken covers thanks to this changing of point scale so half of a player group are absolutely out of luck less than a day into an event....
    Those extra covers would just go to the people that already benefit from the headstart, not to those that no longer have a chance at winning them. The fair approach would be to abort the whole event and restart it tomorrow, this time correctly configured.
  • daveomite
    daveomite Posts: 1,331 Chairperson of the Boards
    j12601 wrote:
    Yeah, resetting the node values appears to me to be a screw up.

    Does this mean that those at the top when the changeover occurred now have insurmountable leads?

    Seems possible. I'm 4k behind in my main, and my highest nodes give about 200 points.

    same here. I did a clear at the beginning so I could tell everyone what happens once all 9 nodes are done. Doing those gave me approx 3,200 points. Point leader now had close to 7k.

    before the node amount change, one like Rampage was close to 800. Now, 220 at best. Even if I cleared all nodes again, I don't think it would be possible to catch up now.