OSCORP HEROIC - MAY 8-14

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mohio wrote:

grats pasa. very well deserved win. I'm a little ticked my last battle didn't get finished quite in time so I ended up probably <100 pts out of 30th in 39th. Not that 1 cover is going to make or break me at this point in the game, but it's frustrating to put in all that time and grind out earlier to make up for the dev mistake, only to then miss out (okay on best rewards, but still) by a single battle's worth of points.

Thanks and sorry.

My timing worked fine this time and I didn't even start the play with the usual full-wipe. Playes the final sor safe mining 3k points leaving me only under-50 in all nodes but Daken with 208 -- played it once with full boosts and wasn't eager to touch it again, especially as it jumped up to lvl 257.

I had a good 2k lead over #2 in the last hour but then 2 new climbers approached with lightning speed taking him over. Then guess they ran out of points or stamina too and stopped in the middle of the gap 10 mins to end.

The Finn

Can someone please direct me to the page that explains what happened in the first sub? I was never within 5k pts of the lead again after that no matter how much i ground down the nodes. Very confused on why the one time i was counting on rubberbanding to work in my favor, it broke.

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Congratulations to everyone who achieved their desired placement!

Sorry to those that didn't, I feel ya.

I didn't feel like grinding before bed and then when it came to setting the alarm to 5:00 am, I looked at myself and said, carth, don't be a fool. It's a bloody match 3 game. Sleep trumps any game. So I fell from 20 to 101, but I'm okay with that. Got my cover. (or will once we get the rewards. we WILL get these rewards, right.) And anyway, I'd have been seriously pissed if I'd gotten up and then didn't make top 30 - saved myself that annoyance, yay!

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Carnajs1 wrote:

I still can't believe I didn't get top 30 at the end. I finished top 5 in the first two brackets and kept grinding away all day today the right at the end dropped to 38.

Yeah, I think only a couple people that were at the top 10 at the end of both subs (which were largely the same 7-8 people) ended up being in the top ten at the very end

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I had to go to bed 4.5 hours before the end and left the game as #1 with a small 400 lead and more subs grinded to 1 or ~50 and only 2 over 100. Final score? 29th. Barely made it which is all good, but it sucks for Europeans. If they don't do something about the ridiculous rubber banding which keeps becoming worse and worse, no one will have a chance at covers unless they play 1 hour before the end.

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Took second place riding that rubberband after a horrid start due to the point change in nodes. Scaling wasn't to bad but I think you need to stop the increase in scaling on goon nodes if you don't take damage. It's hard to take damage on those nodes.

TheVulture

Went to bed 41st (UK time) - woke up to 154.

No Daken
Sans shirt
Much sad

DirigiblePilot

The Finn wrote:

Can someone please direct me to the page that explains what happened in the first sub? I was never within 5k pts of the lead again after that no matter how much i ground down the nodes. Very confused on why the one time i was counting on rubberbanding to work in my favor, it broke.

Basically, the devs changed the point goal from 2m to 4m because we were reaching it too fast, and for reasons unknown this entirely reset rubberbanding.
It's first noticed on page 8, while the real bulk of it begins to hit on 9. The complaints last for the next ~56 pages.

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locked wrote:

Should have listened to Lyrian and ignored the subs, really. The ISO was good, though, maxed my Patch at least.

Sadly, I wish I was wrong on this one. Outside of the people who got bent over because of the points issue, for everyone else their event placement was simply how well you cleared the final refresh of the pins. If you could perfect clear the round, then you won. Beyond that, placement was as simple as ordering people by how close to perfect they actually achieved.

For me to hang onto the Blue Daken cover, I had to clear 4 stacks on all of the pins, except for the Lazy Daken node which I cleared 3 stacks before he became too insane. Finished with around 36k. Yet, my placement clearly indicates that everyone above me was full clearing, as everyone's rank was still wildly moving up until the last minute.

As a side observation, I scrambled with my other half's casual account to try to win at least one Daken cover. Just managed to squeak the top 150 with her account, at just over 32k points.

I bet the devs are thrilled with this system, as PvE events will be a matter of simply how well a player can completely clear the final refresh of the tourney, regardless of scaling, for final placement to normalize new rosters with veteran ones. If a player doesn't/can't play to the final buzzer, then the final reward is going to be the tourney participation prize regardless of previous performance in that event. Got to love those changes to increase player discomfort.

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DirigiblePilot wrote:

The Finn wrote:

Can someone please direct me to the page that explains what happened in the first sub? I was never within 5k pts of the lead again after that no matter how much i ground down the nodes. Very confused on why the one time i was counting on rubberbanding to work in my favor, it broke.

Basically, the devs changed the point goal from 2m to 4m because we were reaching it too fast, and for reasons unknown this entirely reset rubberbanding.

From what I can tell they changed the rubberbanding to use the one seen in recent events where you no longer get caught up as fast. For example, in the old rubberband system let's say there are 1000 base points in a bracket, you can easily make up at least 5000 via rubberbanding. The tighter rubberband allows you to only make up about 2000, which is normally fine because tighter rubberband means the leader wouldn't be that much further ahead either (because tighter rubberbanding makes it much harder for a new leader to emerge), except people started with a 4000 point lead due to the sudden change in point value. This windfall of extra 4000 points cannot be made up in a single pass and, indeed, was never made up completely. Looking at my bracket's top scores (started well after the points nerf) to the overall top points, I estimate the initial extra points shrunk down to about 1000 points and is likely less than that, though it's still a very considerable edge. Its overall effect is probably equal to scaling or missing the final refresh in the 2 sub events due to its uncertain ending time, so those who are in a mixed bracket have potentially 3 things to worry about that can screw you up instead of the usual two (scaling & timing).

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wathombe wrote:

67th. Despite finishing top 5 in one sub and 1st in the other, and grinding my main bracket refreshes damn near perfectly. I never once got above 50th.

Once Demiurge threw that switch in Thursday and out me in an 8,000-point hole (yes, 8,000 points), I never had a chance.

Thanks, Demiurge.

Fun game.

I feel like you must have screwed up somewhere if you started at all in the first day and still didn't manage top 150, if those placing in the subs are accurate then you didn't grind nearly enough in the repeatable nodes in the main event. Many people here have said they made it to top 30 despite the issue at the start.

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Lyrian wrote:

locked wrote:

Should have listened to Lyrian and ignored the subs, really. The ISO was good, though, maxed my Patch at least.

Sadly, I wish I was wrong on this one. Outside of the people who got bent over because of the points issue, for everyone else their event placement was simply how well you cleared the final refresh of the pins. If you could perfect clear the round, then you won. Beyond that, placement was as simple as ordering people by how close to perfect they actually achieved.

For me to hang onto the Blue Daken cover, I had to clear 4 stacks on all of the pins, except for the Lazy Daken node which I cleared 3 stacks before he became too insane. Finished with around 36k. Yet, my placement clearly indicates that everyone above me was full clearing, as everyone's rank was still wildly moving up until the last minute.

As a side observation, I scrambled with my other half's casual account to try to win at least one Daken cover. Just managed to squeak the top 150 with her account, at just over 32k points.

I bet the devs are thrilled with this system, as PvE events will be a matter of simply how well a player can completely clear the final refresh of the tourney, regardless of scaling, for final placement to normalize new rosters with veteran ones. If a player doesn't/can't play to the final buzzer, then the final reward is going to be the tourney participation prize regardless of previous performance in that event. Got to love those changes to increase player discomfort.

The way this event is structured, since lazy Daken's node was worth a ton of points and far above the rest of the nodes of difficulty, it's not surprising the final outcome is determined by the number of times you can beat lazy Daken. After all anyone who can beat him even once will have no problem clearing all the other nodes.

That said just because the points look awfully close together doesn't mean that effort prior to final clear did not matter. The #1 and #2 in my bracket beat me by 300 points, and I had about 300 points on #4, but after that each place is separated by less than 100 points. So if you got 100 points out of your early lead that can still be significant. Now, that 100 point is not significant if someone can beat lazy Daken one more time than you since that mission is worth 260 base, but if you're tied on lazy Daken, then it definitely matters since you're likely tied on all the other missions too given they're all considerably easier than lazy Daken.

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Useful knowledge:

18members strong, semi-casual alliance is still perfectly capable of getting good spot. Having 2 people absent, we managed to finish at #52. In God of Lies we finished #54. With a little bit more grinding, top50 was reachable.

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Lyrian wrote:

locked wrote:

Should have listened to Lyrian and ignored the subs, really. The ISO was good, though, maxed my Patch at least.

Sadly, I wish I was wrong on this one. Outside of the people who got bent over because of the points issue, for everyone else their event placement was simply how well you cleared the final refresh of the pins. If you could perfect clear the round, then you won. Beyond that, placement was as simple as ordering people by how close to perfect they actually achieved.

That's not entirely true. I was top 2 in both subs, which means I put some serious effort in before that all-important last refresh. I don't regret it - good iso and I got two Patches and one Hulk cover from the tokens, plus the HP of course, which was very welcome.
I didn't play in the last 15 hours of the event at all, because life and sleep and I still got that Daken cover. Now, obviously, having 1 cover isn't as good as having 2 covers (ignoring the alliances since I'm not in a 20 people alliance), but it's better than having none and be locked out of required nodes next time. Admittedly, if the rewards had remained at the old structure, I would not have made the cut, but then I'd have grinded some more in those 15 hours I skipped this time.

So doing the subs well does count for something - just no where near as much as it should. I keep saying it until I turn blue - continuous, committed play should be rewarded more than a last minute push. I suspect it's probably easier on their servers too.

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3.5 hours later, still no rewards.

I think we must have been getting our event rewards too early in the previous events, so D3 must have toggled a few switches on the backend and doubled the wait time...

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seanarmstrong wrote:

wathombe wrote:

67th. Despite finishing top 5 in one sub and 1st in the other, and grinding my main bracket refreshes damn near perfectly. I never once got above 50th.

Once Demiurge threw that switch in Thursday and out me in an 8,000-point hole (yes, 8,000 points), I never had a chance.

Thanks, Demiurge.

Fun game.

I feel like you must have screwed up somewhere if you started at all in the first day and still didn't manage top 150, if those placing in the subs are accurate then you didn't grind nearly enough in the repeatable nodes in the main event. Many people here have said they made it to top 30 despite the issue at the start.

Again, what level was your scaling at?

Grinding rapidly becomes untenable around the mid-200s

FWIW, I was pushing up to the top 10 at the end of both subs, and only barely made it into the top 30 with excessive use of medpacks and using up almost my entire stockpile of like 20-something AP all boosts

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TheVulture wrote:

Went to bed 41st (UK time) - woke up to 154.

No Daken
Sans shirt
Much sad

Pretty much the same as me. This event has been a screw up since the beginning. It's the first PvE event where I've failed to finish high, all because the devs decided to screw around with the points early on. Despite playing a lot, I was never able to claw back to point difference that appeared on the first day. If it wasn't for the fact I hated this event in general I'd want an immediate repeat. As it stands, I just want a PvP event with Daken as the reward, that finishes at a European-friendly time. I'm sick of missing out on covers simply because I refuse to adjust my sleeping pattern to accommodate the US-centric finishing times.

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DaveyPitch wrote:

TheVulture wrote:

Went to bed 41st (UK time) - woke up to 154.

No Daken
Sans shirt
Much sad

Pretty much the same as me. This event has been a screw up since the beginning. It's the first PvE event where I've failed to finish high, all because the devs decided to screw around with the points early on. Despite playing a lot, I was never able to claw back to point difference that appeared on the first day. If it wasn't for the fact I hated this event in general I'd want an immediate repeat. As it stands, I just want a PvP event with Daken as the reward, that finishes at a European-friendly time. I'm sick of missing out on covers simply because I refuse to adjust my sleeping pattern to accommodate the US-centric finishing times.

As much as I agree that this event was screwed up, it was still possible to finish top30.

I was mostly afk for last 2.5days, thus got IIRC about 5k only in the Tower sub. And kept on staying at around #350. Finally I finished #32, 30pts to reach top30 and getting both covers.

BUT... it took me 2 hours of grinding repeatable nodes in main till most of the nodes (except last two, with Dakens) were at 1pt. Burned ISO and HP.

Thanos

Is anyone else waiting for their rewards?

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I was unable to play the final refresh at all due to real life events. I finished a magnificent 381 with 27,342 points, only slightly outside of the top 150 I was on track to achieve. My alliance ended up #170.

I'd love to whine, in great depth, about exactly why I was unable to play the final refresh - because I'm feeling very stupid, guilty (for letting down my alliance), AND exceptionally hard-done-by right now. I started to write up my tale of woe, in fact, before thankfully reconsidering. Instead I'll vent to my partner when he gets home from work (lucky him) and maybe to a few unfortunate friends who'll have to try not to laugh aloud at me. They'd better try really hard because "It's only a game" are words that I will not respond well to at the moment. Mainly because they're so very accurate!

On the upside, missing the Daken rewards was not the *worst* part of my day. On the down-side.. well, missing the Daken rewards was not the *worst* part of my day!

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SO ANYWAY : Congratulations to everyone who earned 1,2, or 3 of the Classic Daken covers! To everyone who missed out - for whatever reason - best of luck next time!