Please accept this comment as independent of the current situation that seems to have created such a stir among some players.
For the most part there are only 2 parties that can confirm if someone has cheated. The person that cheated and the developer. Everything else is anecdotal or circumstantial evidence that can be presented to the developer but ultimately the developer has to investigate and come to some sort of conclusion.
I don't think anyone can expect the developer to comment on individual players and I don't think they should be. Are we going to a system where everyone that is reported is publicly considered guilty and the developer has to publicly clear them and explain their reasons?
This isn't a public court of MPQ justice. Report the player and move on. If you feel like the developer isn't taking the situation seriously and it is ruining the game somehow then play another game, go have some fun. It is in the developers best interest to remove cheaters to maintain a player base for this exact reason, people will move on if they feel the game has been compromised and spend their money elsewhere.
I understand that people get personally and emotionally attached but what else do you expect the developer to say, other than thank you for making us aware, we are looking into it. Just because you think you spotted a cheater doesn't mean you have the right to all the details about the situation.
Another question I would as is at what point do we accept the developers decision. At what point do we accept manufactured and manipulated "evidence" by other players. At what point does this become a witch hunt.
I agree that when there has been wide spread cheating reported and the developer has initiated communication about the cheating they should be more transparent in how they have handled or will be handling it. In the past this particular developer has failed in this regard with little to no follow up. When it comes to an individual player though, report it, move on, let the developer deal with it from there.
tobismaul said: Please accept this comment as independent of the current situation that seems to have created such a stir among some players.For the most part there are only 2 parties that can confirm if someone has cheated. The person that cheated and the developer. Everything else is anecdotal or circumstantial evidence that can be presented to the developer but ultimately the developer has to investigate and come to some sort of conclusion.I don't think anyone can expect the developer to comment on individual players and I don't think they should be. Are we going to a system where everyone that is reported is publicly considered guilty and the developer has to publicly clear them and explain their reasons?This isn't a public court of MPQ justice. Report the player and move on. If you feel like the developer isn't taking the situation seriously and it is ruining the game somehow then play another game, go have some fun. It is in the developers best interest to remove cheaters to maintain a player base for this exact reason, people will move on if they feel the game has been compromised and spend their money elsewhere.I understand that people get personally and emotionally attached but what else do you expect the developer to say, other than thank you for making us aware, we are looking into it. Just because you think you spotted a cheater doesn't mean you have the right to all the details about the situation.Another question I would as is at what point do we accept the developers decision. At what point do we accept manufactured and manipulated "evidence" by other players. At what point does this become a witch hunt.I agree that when there has been wide spread cheating reported and the developer has initiated communication about the cheating they should be more transparent in how they have handled or will be handling it. In the past this particular developer has failed in this regard with little to no follow up. When it comes to an individual player though, report it, move on, let the developer deal with it from there.
Michaelcles said: $100k?!?!?!?
If I bought a car for $100k do I get a say on how that car company handles their business, or how the police handle people that stole the same car? Why does money spent on MPQ apply here?
Furthermore, why does my enjoyment of that car have anything to do with how other people obtained their car? If I think someone stole the same car as me is it my responsibility to do everything I can to make sure that person comes to justice? I just can't have someone out there driving the same car as me if it's stolen, how else will everyone know I have the money to pay for this legally? Is this actually just coming down to status and prestige over a match 3 game?
I also guarantee that there are plenty of people that you and I are playing with or against that have cheated in some capacity. I assume from your comment that I should also be very upset at the people that I have the same spending equivalent to, because I'm not. Does this only apply to big spenders, if so it's their choice to spend their money with no guarantee they get treated any different than anyone else.
I maintain, if the player has cheated, report it, present your case if you have any supporting information and then let the developer deal with it. Putting on a big public show won't change the outcome. The developer still has to do their own investigation based on facts and actual evidence.
I don't understand the neighbor analogy. I guess dog poop refers to the perceived disrespect that comes from one player potentially obtaining the same roster illicitly as someone who paid full value? Are our egos that inflated over a match 3 game?
I think a better analogy would be one neighbor got an identical house by just moving in without paying for it. In this case you don't have to move, just report it and live your life, instead of obsessing over it and telling all the other neighbours. By the way, this whole time you can't actually prove your neighbour moved in without paying.
How about we all go back to matching 3, 4, and 5, or even the elusive 6, 7, or 8. Let the developer sort out this one player.
tobismaul said: If I bought a car for $100k do I get a say on how that car company handles their business, or how the police handle people that stole the same car? Why does money spent on MPQ apply here?Furthermore, why does my enjoyment of that car have anything to do with how other people obtained their car? If I think someone stole the same car as me is it my responsibility to do everything I can to make sure that person comes to justice? I just can't have someone out there driving the same car as me if it's stolen, how else will everyone know I have the money to pay for this legally? Is this actually just coming down to status and prestige over a match 3 game?I also guarantee that there are plenty of people that you and I are playing with or against that have cheated in some capacity. I assume from your comment that I should also be very upset at the people that I have the same spending equivalent to, because I'm not. Does this only apply to big spenders, if so it's their choice to spend their money with no guarantee they get treated any different than anyone else.I maintain, if the player has cheated, report it, present your case if you have any supporting information and then let the developer deal with it. Putting on a big public show won't change the outcome. The developer still has to do their own investigation based on facts and actual evidence.I don't understand the neighbor analogy. I guess dog poop refers to the perceived disrespect that comes from one player potentially obtaining the same roster illicitly as someone who paid full value? Are our egos that inflated over a match 3 game?I think a better analogy would be one neighbor got an identical house by just moving in without paying for it. In this case you don't have to move, just report it and live your life, instead of obsessing over it and telling all the other neighbours. I'm a forum mod and don't check qouted text, I love farting all day while posting. By the way, this whole time you can't actually prove your neighbour moved in without paying.How about we all go back to matching 3, 4, and 5, or even the elusive 6, 7, or 8. Let the developer sort out this one player.
I think a better analogy would be one neighbor got an identical house by just moving in without paying for it. In this case you don't have to move, just report it and live your life, instead of obsessing over it and telling all the other neighbours. I'm a forum mod and don't check qouted text, I love farting all day while posting. By the way, this whole time you can't actually prove your neighbour moved in without paying.
PJ_Dupa said: You people are still talking about this? hahaha How long as it been 2 / 3 months now? Keep at it
FokaiHI said: PJ_Dupa said: You people are still talking about this? hahaha How long as it been 2 / 3 months now? Keep at it Lol. You need more posts than three. Please dont assume.