Updates to S.H.I.E.L.D. Rank and Player XP (11/7/17)

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  • kilgarin
    kilgarin Posts: 57 Match Maker
    I’m confused....the chart says recruiting a 1* gives XP. Yet, when I recruit a 1* it doesn’t give me anything. Is it only for applying additional covers? 
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,819 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2017
    kilgarin said:
    I’m confused....the chart says recruiting a 1* gives XP. Yet, when I recruit a 1* it doesn’t give me anything. Is it only for applying additional covers? 
    Kind of.  If you recruit a 1* for the first time ever into your roster, you will get XP for that.  I’d imagine most players who use the forum already rostered all 1’s at one point already.

    Similarly, 2* farming only gives XP for applying covers.  Assuming that you have rostered them in the past.  Edit:  and 2* champing, adding champ levels etc give XP.
  • acescracked
    acescracked Posts: 1,197 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2017
    Only reason for this change is to distract us from the dumpster fire that is wins based PvP!

    C'mon people stay focused on the real problem!! #savepvp
  • Cartz
    Cartz Posts: 73 Match Maker
    So now my xp gains are down to rng. Ever since the change I can barely draw a 3* from an elite. Had 20 2* draws in a row. Heroics are virtually all 2* and same with vaults. 

    So now there are no guaranteed amounts like doing 6 clears or dpd. It's all up to how your token rng goes.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards
    The XP change from opening tokens is probably the main drawback. I guess the reasoning was why should players be rewarded for opening a reward? Doing something with that reward is the key part. It was pretty handy though if you were close to going up a level and could get over the line just by opening tokens, I grabbed needed iso to champ a 4* and save covers a few times under the old system thanks to token XP.
  • Slothkins
    Slothkins Posts: 58 Match Maker
    After a couple days with the change it seems like I've been gaining XP much faster than before. I've been lucky with some 5* draws, which certainly helps, but still. I've gained almost a full level since Thursday. As someone who doesn't play much PvP and didn't always green check PvE nodes, this is a great change for me. 
  • turbomoose
    turbomoose Posts: 806 Critical Contributor
    Where is the new season news ? Isn’t it season start on Thursday?
  • PenniesForEveryone
    PenniesForEveryone Posts: 294 Mover and Shaker
    cpeyton3535 said:
    aesthetocyst said:
    bluewolf said:
    Has this already been pointed out?  This is a giant disincentive to hoarders.  Just had that thought today.  No XP without applying covers.
    Hoarding is all about delayed gratification. Changes disincentivizing hoarding seem to be the order of the season.

    Which is why the 5* essential node and 5* HfH experiment baffle me.  The best way to get the shiny new essential 5* so you can chase placement is to have a lot of CP or LT's which, well, requires a mini-hoard.  Right?  Maybe the approach makes a dent in existing hoards but it promotes hoarding for those who don't currently have one.  Or am I missing something?

    I consider 500 CP a hoard, but I have zero willpower.  Hand me my marshmallow.



    Sorry, that was off topic.  I'm only level 92 currently so farming 1*s is profitable for the time-being.

    They want players that do have hoards to get rid of them so they can have the shiny new thing.
  • cpeyton3535
    cpeyton3535 Posts: 256 Mover and Shaker
    PenniesForEveryone said:
    cpeyton3535 said:
    aesthetocyst said:
    bluewolf said:
    Has this already been pointed out?  This is a giant disincentive to hoarders.  Just had that thought today.  No XP without applying covers.
    Hoarding is all about delayed gratification. Changes disincentivizing hoarding seem to be the order of the season.

    Which is why the 5* essential node and 5* HfH experiment baffle me.  The best way to get the shiny new essential 5* so you can chase placement is to have a lot of CP or LT's which, well, requires a mini-hoard.  Right?  Maybe the approach makes a dent in existing hoards but it promotes hoarding for those who don't currently have one.  Or am I missing something?

    I consider 500 CP a hoard, but I have zero willpower.  Hand me my marshmallow.



    Sorry, that was off topic.  I'm only level 92 currently so farming 1*s is profitable for the time-being.

    They want players that do have hoards to get rid of them so they can have the shiny new thing.
    Right, but I would wager that most players who don't mind dropping 500 CP for a guaranteed cover for an essential can replenish that 500 CP in about 10-13 days.  So not really busting their CP hoards unless you were pumping out a new 5* every 2 weeks or allowing the purchase of more than one cover in HfH.  For LT's it's really just business as usual.

    For those of us w/o a hoard, they are actively encouraging us to start one to have 500 CP on hand or enough CP/LT's to increase out probability of getting the shiny from pulls.  Just seems to clash with the anti-hoarding mindset.  

    Or I'm over-thinking it!



    On topic, it used to take about 6-7 days for me to earn the XP to increase a level.  Just went up in 4 days so I can't complain.
  • Yepyep
    Yepyep Posts: 954 Critical Contributor
    edited November 2017
    Cartz said:
    Ever since the change I can[NOT] draw a 3* from an elite. ... Heroics are virtually all 2* and same with vaults. 
    With these edits, same for me. It's glaringly obvious that not all recent changes were announced.

    But, like for @Slothkins (my alliance leader), I, too, have been gaining XP much faster.
  • PenniesForEveryone
    PenniesForEveryone Posts: 294 Mover and Shaker
    cpeyton3535 said:
    PenniesForEveryone said:
    cpeyton3535 said:
    aesthetocyst said:
    bluewolf said:
    Has this already been pointed out?  This is a giant disincentive to hoarders.  Just had that thought today.  No XP without applying covers.
    Hoarding is all about delayed gratification. Changes disincentivizing hoarding seem to be the order of the season.

    Which is why the 5* essential node and 5* HfH experiment baffle me.  The best way to get the shiny new essential 5* so you can chase placement is to have a lot of CP or LT's which, well, requires a mini-hoard.  Right?  Maybe the approach makes a dent in existing hoards but it promotes hoarding for those who don't currently have one.  Or am I missing something?

    I consider 500 CP a hoard, but I have zero willpower.  Hand me my marshmallow.



    Sorry, that was off topic.  I'm only level 92 currently so farming 1*s is profitable for the time-being.

    They want players that do have hoards to get rid of them so they can have the shiny new thing.
    Right, but I would wager that most players who don't mind dropping 500 CP for a guaranteed cover for an essential can replenish that 500 CP in about 10-13 days.  So not really busting their CP hoards unless you were pumping out a new 5* every 2 weeks or allowing the purchase of more than one cover in HfH.  For LT's it's really just business as usual.

    For those of us w/o a hoard, they are actively encouraging us to start one to have 500 CP on hand or enough CP/LT's to increase out probability of getting the shiny from pulls.  Just seems to clash with the anti-hoarding mindset.  

    Or I'm over-thinking it!



    On topic, it used to take about 6-7 days for me to earn the XP to increase a level.  Just went up in 4 days so I can't complain.
    Well, put it this way - previously there was no reason to open for a Latest character that you didn't want - so you could hoard until they left and pull for the next one, or whenever you were ready (why we have so many Gambits now).  But now they have provided both an incentive to acquire all the Latest 5s, AND a method for acquiring them directly.  So hoards should be smaller as a result.
  • cpeyton3535
    cpeyton3535 Posts: 256 Mover and Shaker
    PenniesForEveryone said:
    cpeyton3535 said:
    PenniesForEveryone said:
    cpeyton3535 said:
    aesthetocyst said:
    bluewolf said:
    Has this already been pointed out?  This is a giant disincentive to hoarders.  Just had that thought today.  No XP without applying covers.
    Hoarding is all about delayed gratification. Changes disincentivizing hoarding seem to be the order of the season.

    Which is why the 5* essential node and 5* HfH experiment baffle me.  The best way to get the shiny new essential 5* so you can chase placement is to have a lot of CP or LT's which, well, requires a mini-hoard.  Right?  Maybe the approach makes a dent in existing hoards but it promotes hoarding for those who don't currently have one.  Or am I missing something?

    I consider 500 CP a hoard, but I have zero willpower.  Hand me my marshmallow.



    Sorry, that was off topic.  I'm only level 92 currently so farming 1*s is profitable for the time-being.

    They want players that do have hoards to get rid of them so they can have the shiny new thing.
    Right, but I would wager that most players who don't mind dropping 500 CP for a guaranteed cover for an essential can replenish that 500 CP in about 10-13 days.  So not really busting their CP hoards unless you were pumping out a new 5* every 2 weeks or allowing the purchase of more than one cover in HfH.  For LT's it's really just business as usual.

    For those of us w/o a hoard, they are actively encouraging us to start one to have 500 CP on hand or enough CP/LT's to increase out probability of getting the shiny from pulls.  Just seems to clash with the anti-hoarding mindset.  

    Or I'm over-thinking it!



    On topic, it used to take about 6-7 days for me to earn the XP to increase a level.  Just went up in 4 days so I can't complain.
    Well, put it this way - previously there was no reason to open for a Latest character that you didn't want - so you could hoard until they left and pull for the next one, or whenever you were ready (why we have so many Gambits now).  But now they have provided both an incentive to acquire all the Latest 5s, AND a method for acquiring them directly.  So hoards should be smaller as a result.
    you're right, I agree, that was probably the thinking.  Indeed the increase in points for the 5* nodes they just pushed would support this. 

    I still think that a side-effect is going to be hoarding by players who wouldn't typically have been inclined to hoard.  Temporary hoards, I guess.

    Guess it remains to be seen if it works long-term.


  • Jaedenkaal
    Jaedenkaal Posts: 3,357 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yepyep said:
    Cartz said:
    Ever since the change I can[NOT] draw a 3* from an elite. ... Heroics are virtually all 2* and same with vaults. 
    With these edits, same for me. It's glaringly obvious that not all recent changes were announced.
    Ah, I see the problem, Your tinfoil hat is on backwards.
  • DarthDeVo
    DarthDeVo Posts: 2,178 Chairperson of the Boards
    Cartz said:
    So now my xp gains are down to rng. Ever since the change I can barely draw a 3* from an elite. Had 20 2* draws in a row. Heroics are virtually all 2* and same with vaults. 

    So now there are no guaranteed amounts like doing 6 clears or dpd. It's all up to how your token rng goes.
    I don't know about a decrease in 3*s from elites, but it sure feels like I've gotten fewer Bonus Heroes at that level. Which had already felt like a decrease from when they were first implemented. 
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    OJSP said:
    My OCD is bugging me.. the last digit of my XP is 7 at the moment.. is there any way to get 3 XP now? (I wonder how many people noticed this now and start obsessing about it too.. :lol: )

    You can hit level 200?
  • DarthDeVo
    DarthDeVo Posts: 2,178 Chairperson of the Boards
    OJSP said:
    My OCD is bugging me.. the last digit of my XP is 7 at the moment.. is there any way to get 3 XP now? (I wonder how many people noticed this now and start obsessing about it too.. :lol: )
    Play the 5* essential node in CL9. Also, I believe that's one of the last champ rewards for a 2*.
  • DarthDeVo
    DarthDeVo Posts: 2,178 Chairperson of the Boards
    OJSP said:
    DarthDeVo said:
    Play the 5* essential node in CL9. Also, I believe that's one of the last champ rewards for a 2*.
    I think you’re talking about CPs, not XPs.
     Bah. As Ed McMahon used to say, "You are correct, sir!"
  • Dax317
    Dax317 Posts: 87 Match Maker
    Mine is back and forth between 9 and 4. My ocd is the same. I want one more point lol.
  • Moon Roach
    Moon Roach Posts: 2,863 Chairperson of the Boards
    I might be wrong, but I believe that rage-quitting is rewarded with 3 XP, but only if you post a video.
  • Starfury
    Starfury Posts: 719 Critical Contributor

    So, it looks like my overall XP gain is pretty much the same as before, but that's only because of the 1* farm.

    Basically I'm now buying the lost XP from mission clears/other stuff for 10 iso/xp

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