Doctor's Orders - 04-06 MAY

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  • Hello OBW so nice to see you, it's been a long time since we last met. Oh you brought a friend? Whats his name? Thor you say?

    Rinse and repeat for every single node. I may just start using these 2 from now on as well. Seems like "The Thing" to do.

    If I'd only be so lucky to have such easy fights :p
  • mohio
    mohio Posts: 1,690 Chairperson of the Boards
    Well, Thor is essentially a one man army and OBW helps keep a lot of attacks off your back using recon and sometimes even espionage, unless they are very cheap. She also makes it so you can play a long time without using too many health packs or going to prologue to heal. It's why I use my OBW over someone more "powerful" like my 115 LC or 110 Punisher (both 3/5/5). Now I'm not facing much more than one 141 with another 100+ and an 85 or around that area, so maybe at a slightly higher level it's not good enough.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    honestly, on offense, OBW's manual AP steal is proably faster at feeding your powers than hood's passive leech
  • Managed to get up to 1k finally fighting max 141 teams after beating 3 seed teams, which was not fun at all. Actually I got hit 5 times (From people as low at the 400's go figure) and bughunt at around 650 just for kicks once I passed 900. That lowered my MMR a bit so I saw a couple of max Thor/Punisher OBW teams and 2/3 got recons off despite my best efforts. Eventually did get to 1k though and may be good enough for first. Just not very amused with these changes.
  • kensterr
    kensterr Posts: 1,277 Chairperson of the Boards
    gamar wrote:
    kensterr is the k-username target for Doctor's Orders! Quick everyone find him and hit him!!
    I think devs like to make the k-username their Special K for pvp.
  • They probably need to do something about these tournaments where most people don't have the team-up character seriously levelled (and we're about to get another one since it's a Falcon tournie next), as people just play their best 2-character team and more or less ignore the team-up character. Maybe take a leaf from the Heroic book and restrict the characters that can be used (not as heavily restricted as for a Heroic, though)? As it stands it gets very repetitive.
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    Zhirrzh wrote:
    They probably need to do something about these tournaments where most people don't have the team-up character seriously levelled (and we're about to get another one since it's a Falcon tournie next), as people just play their best 2-character team and more or less ignore the team-up character. Maybe take a leaf from the Heroic book and restrict the characters that can be used (not as heavily restricted as for a Heroic, though)? As it stands it gets very repetitive.
    Do you seriously want to handicap all the people that don't possess developed rosters? No, really? If you're tired of seeing Thor and oBW everywhere, just hurry up with your own roster development and you will see lots of Patches, Hulks, Punishers, Hoods and LTs.
  • OBW gets one shotted like a used condom all I have to say on the matter. 2* teams don't have options and those in transition also don't have the otptions but to go for safe bets. Blame it on the ISO shortage lol
  • locked wrote:
    Zhirrzh wrote:
    They probably need to do something about these tournaments where most people don't have the team-up character seriously levelled (and we're about to get another one since it's a Falcon tournie next), as people just play their best 2-character team and more or less ignore the team-up character. Maybe take a leaf from the Heroic book and restrict the characters that can be used (not as heavily restricted as for a Heroic, though)? As it stands it gets very repetitive.
    Do you seriously want to handicap all the people that don't possess developed rosters? No, really? If you're tired of seeing Thor and oBW everywhere, just hurry up with your own roster development and you will see lots of Patches, Hulks, Punishers, Hoods and LTs.

    My 141 punisher and I see tons of Punisher-OBW and lazyThor-OBW, with the occasional Patch-OBW. It's not my roster development that's the problem. I use Punisher-OBW myself now and then, it's not my most powerful combo, but I have to admit that thanks to the healing it goes longer than just about any other 2-character combo. Plus Punisher's strike tiles combo brilliantly with Espionage.

    Maybe the real trick is for the devs to release more healing options- including more healing options at the 2* level.

    I admit that handicapping people without developed rosters isn't really the idea here- it's more that it's boring to see everyone feel they need to jam healing in their teams in order to last long enough to get to the points total they need to get to, especially when one character is forced by the team up so 90% of the teams are teamup character-OBW-other. If people were prevented from using OBW in some of these teamup events, we'd all be on the same playing field and there'd be more variety.
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    Zhirrzh wrote:
    If people were prevented from using OBW in some of these teamup events, we'd all be on the same playing field and there'd be more variety.
    We _are_ all on the same playing field, that's why you see a gazillion teams with OBW.
    One tier above you see more variety - but that's because not everyone has a leveled LT and Hood.
    There you see a gazillion teams with Spidey, who are not worth attacking because you know you'll lose the retal, because, well, Spidey.
    Some chars are simply better than others, but there's a counter to everyone.
    As soon as I find a team running an OBW I happily charge into battle regardless of who's with her (unless it's Hood and a damage dealer), she's just too damn squishy on defense.

    I expect the meta to be switching to Hood in the coming months once people realise how good he is on defense (and get his covers), and that'll be a lot more annoying than OBW.
  • they don't give out hood covers often.
  • Thank god they don't he is a nightmare at 141 lol
  • beemand2g wrote:
    Thank god they don't he is a nightmare at 141 lol

    I've been debating for a while whether to up my 5/5/3 Hood from 100 to 141. I've been running him with Patch in almost every recent tourney.

    Sitting at 100, he lets my 141 3/5/5 Patch tank yellow.
    Sitting at 141, he will take a lot more hits on offense which could be annoying. But the increased likelihood of defensive wins or deterrence could be nice.

    What say you, forumgoers? Level or leave?
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    volos wrote:
    beemand2g wrote:
    Thank god they don't he is a nightmare at 141 lol

    I've been debating for a while whether to up my 5/5/3 Hood from 100 to 141. I've been running him with Patch in almost every recent tourney.

    Sitting at 100, he lets my 141 3/5/5 Patch tank yellow.
    Sitting at 141, he will take a lot more hits on offense which could be annoying. But the increased likelihood of defensive wins or deterrence could be nice.

    What say you, forumgoers? Level or leave?
    I say level him, but I'm biased icon_e_wink.gif
    But running him with Patch? Now that's... not so good.
    Keep whittling down Hood with match damage, let Patch use Berserker Rage, kill Hood with Patch's strike tiles, kill Patch. Patch being useless on defense evens out Hood.
  • NorthernPolarity
    NorthernPolarity Posts: 3,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    volos wrote:
    beemand2g wrote:
    Thank god they don't he is a nightmare at 141 lol

    I've been debating for a while whether to up my 5/5/3 Hood from 100 to 141. I've been running him with Patch in almost every recent tourney.

    Sitting at 100, he lets my 141 3/5/5 Patch tank yellow.
    Sitting at 141, he will take a lot more hits on offense which could be annoying. But the increased likelihood of defensive wins or deterrence could be nice.

    What say you, forumgoers? Level or leave?

    I don't really see the synergy with Patch + Hood, since Hood's super squishy and doesn't help mitigate Patch. I leveled my Hood up to 141 and haven't regretted it at all: the extra hp helps him be more of a defensive deterrent than OBW ever was.
  • With Twin Pistols I can often destroy 3 or 4 enemy strike tiles. It does cost a whooping 15 AP, but it's nice when the board is flooded in Yellow.
  • NighteyesGrisu
    NighteyesGrisu Posts: 563 Critical Contributor
    gosh, 926 points and just barely top 10 atm? Points are going crazy...
  • I am thinking ppl will need 1.1k just for top 10 in my bracket by the end of this...
  • top 5 in my bracket all over 1100. people getting greedy since kyipgate.
  • rbdragon
    rbdragon Posts: 479 Mover and Shaker
    Well that was fun...shield comes down 15 minutes ago and I lose over 150 points while only gaining half back.....now I'm not even sure I'll get a Falcon as 10 is at 928...

    And here I am sitting in 36th with 700 points, unable to keep up with all the attacks...If anyone wants to give to charity and retreat from me, that'd be cool icon_e_wink.gif

    Seriously though, that was so freakin' fast!