1.10.2 Release Notes *Updated (3/9/17)

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  • mournfen
    mournfen Posts: 89 Match Maker
    Since many players do not have all PW that could be needed for the Legacy Event will the event only use PW's that have cycled as available from now till first live event?
  • Cthulhu
    Cthulhu ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 410 Site Admin
    octal9 wrote:
    Cthulhu wrote:
    Q) You state having tweaked the duplicate rate. One of the worst feelings is getting a duplicate of an exclusive you've paid for - was anything touched there?

    A. Overall the amount of cards in the big box was 70 cards with a guaranteed rare or mythic, we have reduced the cost and the amount of cards to 25 cards (600 crystals down to 300 crystals). The idea for this was quality over quantity.
    This doesn't answer the question. I'm assuming the answer is "no," but here's a quick explanation of what I'm asking: Olivia was a paid exclusive. Say a player bought her during her offer. That player then receives a duplicate of her 6 weeks later. I will grant that there is an Early Access advantage in having paid for the card, but ask any player here and they will all state that it feels terrible to pick up a duplicate of a card you bought. My question is whether or not this has been tweaked.

    Sorry, yes you will see duplicates, but the chances of getting duplicates is lower. It can't be helped, just like the TCG, opening packs there will be some duplicates, but overall the amount of duplicates has gone down.
  • madwren
    madwren Posts: 2,259 Chairperson of the Boards
    First, thanks for all the answers in this thread. It's great to see you guys proactively addressing our questions.

    I'm thrilled with:
    -Trial of the Planes
    -smaller brackets in NoP
    -Planeswalker Arena
    -nerfs to Gonti's Heart, though I'm sad because it's been fun playing with it

    Uncertain about
    -getting rid of Big Boxes
    -mana jewels

    Both of those are "we'll see whether it's better or worse." However, specifically in regard to the elite packs, @Brigby said, "The way Elite Packs will combat duplicate pulls is by placing the content on rotation every 2 weeks. Since they will only give 1 card, albeit a guaranteed Mythic, players will be able to know which card is available at all times."

    So, does that mean there is ONE SPECIFIC MYTHIC that is on sale every 2 weeks? For example, let's say for the next two weeks it's Odric, and everyone who buys an elite pack gets Odric? Or will there be a specific subset of mythics that are on sale (let's say 5), and buying 5 elite packs means you get all of them with no duplicates?
  • Cthulhu
    Cthulhu ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 410 Site Admin
    It's an attempt to fix duplicates, for Masterpieces you should not see duplicates because of how the system works for those, you have the opportunity to get a card when you want to spend the new currency.

    For the boosters, you have less cards at less cost, I haven't seen 3 of the same card opening a pack like I did previously.
  • Nitymp
    Nitymp Posts: 320 Mover and Shaker
    Cthulhu wrote:
    It's an attempt to fix duplicates, for Masterpieces you should not see duplicates because of how the system works for those, you have the opportunity to get a card when you want to spend the new currency.

    For the boosters, you have less cards at less cost, I haven't seen 3 of the same card opening a pack like I did previously.

    I love that this post about duplicates was duplicated icon_lol.gif
  • Cthulhu
    Cthulhu ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 410 Site Admin
    madwren wrote:
    First, thanks for all the answers in this thread. It's great to see you guys proactively addressing our questions.

    I'm thrilled with:
    -Trial of the Planes
    -smaller brackets in NoP
    -Planeswalker Arena
    -nerfs to Gonti's Heart, though I'm sad because it's been fun playing with it

    Uncertain about
    -getting rid of Big Boxes
    -mana jewels

    Both of those are "we'll see whether it's better or worse." However, specifically in regard to the elite packs, @Brigby said, "The way Elite Packs will combat duplicate pulls is by placing the content on rotation every 2 weeks. Since they will only give 1 card, albeit a guaranteed Mythic, players will be able to know which card is available at all times."

    So, does that mean there is ONE SPECIFIC MYTHIC that is on sale every 2 weeks? For example, let's say for the next two weeks it's Odric, and everyone who buys an elite pack gets Odric? Or will there be a specific subset of mythics that are on sale (let's say 5), and buying 5 elite packs means you get all of them with no duplicates?

    Masterpiece and Mythic cards will be on a rotation, so you as a player will be able to purchase when you want to, if you don't have enough you can earn and wait for the mythic/masterpiece to be available again or you can save your currency to purchase when you like what is in the current mythic/masterpiece rotation.
  • Cthulhu
    Cthulhu ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 410 Site Admin
    Nitymp wrote:
    Cthulhu wrote:
    It's an attempt to fix duplicates, for Masterpieces you should not see duplicates because of how the system works for those, you have the opportunity to get a card when you want to spend the new currency.

    For the boosters, you have less cards at less cost, I haven't seen 3 of the same card opening a pack like I did previously.

    I love that this post about duplicates was duplicated icon_lol.gif

    haha, i'm not sure why that keeps happening to me, but it's getting annoying :p
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited March 2017
    Brigby wrote:
    Sarahschmara wrote:
    It will cost a "low amount" of crystals to enter the daily event. How low? 5? 50?
    The cost of entry is the same as one Booster Pack, however you can earn Booster Packs by winning fights, so it evens out after winning just one fight!


    Not exactly. No one spends crystals on an individual booster pack. Drop rates are terrible and a single booster is worth just a bunch of runes. So i dont think it evens out.
    So entry fee for events sounds like a terrible idea.

    Well, it also depends if the event has mana crystals as rewards too. Then it will even out.
  • James13
    James13 Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    Really compelling stuff.

    Not real comment, but I wanted to say thanks for the preview! I'm excited to see how these ideas play out.
  • GrizzoMtGPQ
    GrizzoMtGPQ Posts: 776 Critical Contributor
    Why not solve the duplicate problem the same way that Magic Duels does? Get rid of duplicate conversion for runes (this is dumb) and cap the number of dupes you can have. This makes all cards attainable after some amount of time and makes chasing cards possible because if you open enough packs, eventually you will have the whole set.

    Don't make it out to be an unsolvable problem. Because it's totally and easily solvable.
  • GrizzoMtGPQ
    GrizzoMtGPQ Posts: 776 Critical Contributor
    What about a fix to C2 abilities? They still suck and I still don't want to use her. Her ultimate is still dumb. And it's sacrilege for her to use energy at all.
  • Delnai
    Delnai Posts: 187 Tile Toppler
    khurram wrote:
    Brigby wrote:
    Sarahschmara wrote:
    It will cost a "low amount" of crystals to enter the daily event. How low? 5? 50?
    The cost of entry is the same as one Booster Pack, however you can earn Booster Packs by winning fights, so it evens out after winning just one fight!


    Not exactly. No one spends crystalson an individual booster pack. Drop rates are terrible and a single booster is worth just a bunch of runes. So i dont think it evens out.

    Entry fee for events sounds like a terrible idea. Well it also depends if the event has mana crystals as rewards too. Then it will even out.
    I agree that saying it "evens out" after one win is pure spin. It's even worse after the changes they are making. Under the current system getting a booster pack for the price of the booster pack is bad; you'd rather get it at Big Box rate. But at least you're getting booster packs one way or another. But under the new system, you'd rather not even be spending your crystals on Boosters at all, and rather get the new packs they are introducing. (If I'm reading this right; I still don't quite get how the changes are going to work out.)

    However I don't agree that entry fees are categorically a terrible idea. Having entry fee for events is not great for newer players, but for more advanced players it's an opportunity for gain, assuming the prizes at higher wins are good. It's especially hard to be upset since these events are not zero-sum (since it's not "true" PvP). In theory everyone joining could win 4 rounds and get whatever (presumably worth it) prize is associated.
  • Houdin
    Houdin Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    So I am sure many of us in top coalitions are wondering if this patch does anything to combat the cheating. We all can point to one player in particular whom we thought had been kicked but is now back to the same obvious shenanigans.
    Houdin
  • GrizzoMtGPQ
    GrizzoMtGPQ Posts: 776 Critical Contributor
    Devs,

    How about establishing the Player council? You could have run the pummeler nerf by us? It's too much.

    How about the all time top coalitions each get a seat on the council? Then feedback could be more direct instead of relying on surveys. The top 10 coalitions represent probably at least 400 of the top players/whales in the game.
  • Houdin
    Houdin Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    As an aside to the question of nerfing Baral, D3 can not Nerf Baral without refunding all purchases of him. That would be a direct violation of Google's terms of service for app developers
  • GrizzoMtGPQ
    GrizzoMtGPQ Posts: 776 Critical Contributor
    Houdin,

    Paid things have been nerfed before. Kiora was nerfed and she was the most expensive thing ever sold. We're not without precedent. FYI, I bought Baral, and I still want him nerfed.
  • THEMAGICkMAN
    THEMAGICkMAN Posts: 697 Critical Contributor
    I'm going to mention the #1 thing that has come with this announcement.

    The Communication!


    seriously, i thought the communication from the dev threads was great... but this puts it to shame


    pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease keep it up!
  • Cthulhu
    Cthulhu ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 410 Site Admin
    Players can get boosters, runes, crystals and mana edit: jewels in the events as rewards now, so you do get a collection of stuff. The mana crystals all feed into the masterpiece part that you can view which masterpiece/mythics are in rotation and choose to spend or not to spend them in the current rotation. Overall it's a bit more custom with you having the ability to decide when you want to spend.
  • Fiddler
    Fiddler Posts: 251 Mover and Shaker
    The Mana Jewels can only be earned, not bought?
    Mana Jewels are being added but no changes to Runes?

    I am curious since Runes currently have no value after all your Planeswalkers are maxed.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    It says that the super packs and premuim packs contain basic boosters. Currently a basic booster contains just 3 cards. If thats true then the new premium pack will conatain 15+1 cards for 300 crystals compared to 70+1 cards for 600 crystals. That is a significant lower number of cards (32 for 600 compared to currently 71) and for some reason i dont feel too excited unless the drop rates have been really really improved.

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