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I'm at work, so I've only managed to squeak in three fights so far, but if what I'm hearing here is correct, I can't help but suspect there is an ulterior motive at work here.

Showcasing new and exciting match-ups? Granting enough ISO to effectively level your characters? Possibly increasing the 3* draw rate from event tokens?

Could this be an attempt to shake up player-based teams as well? How many of us are going to leave the event with some new combinations to play around with and the ISO/Covers to put them to work? If this is, indeed, their sinister motivation for creating an event that everyone seems to love, then...good work! Excellent end goal and excellent method. I look forward to seeing many more like this!

Eddiemon

I think one of the nice things is it is non storyline PvE. Which allows the freedom to have a team like wolverine/Daken or invisible lady/mook/mook

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Eddiemon wrote:

I think one of the nice things is it is non storyline PvE. Which allows the freedom to have a team like wolverine/Daken or invisible lady/mook/mook

YEP 100% AGREE, NICE TO GET A BUFFED DAKEN

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Assuming the round numbers a lot of these seem to be settling at are the ceilings, I think they might've finally got this scaling nonsense working. I'd still take some convincing it's any better than just setting the things to that value in the first place, and I'm sure it's less fair, but early impression is optimistic.

NorthernPolarity wrote:

I have Daken at 45 and I'm getting 2 46 damage strike tiles per green, which is pretty good when the main strategy is to spidey stun lock them down. I'm guessing max level the strike tiles would be 50-60ish, which might be worth the 10k iso...

I hadn't thought of him still basically having the regen that's allegedly not appropriate for 2*s (albeit with drawback). That's scaled up by the buff, as well, albeit not quite as outrageously as Wolvie's when he could solo 240s. Should help survive inflated match damage for a bit.

Anyhow, not even top 10 because I've been ignoring the normal mode but I decided after TaT I like sleep more than grinding, even grinding for Psylocke. Will just have to hope the rubber band works its dubious magic.

Faded X-Genes wrote:

Could this be an attempt to shake up player-based teams as well?

Hood/Doom/Mags is, although people already use that. I don't think it's rare because people haven't thought of it, more just not many people have them. X-Force? Nah. He's just there to stop you using Patch.

Never thought I'd willingly buy a character with money, but give me a playable ***Maggia Muscle and you can have all you want.

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NorthernPolarity wrote:

soenottelling wrote:

When does the first sub end?

They end when the simulator token sale ends at the store page.

First sub ends 49 hours from now?!?!?!

kensterr

Is this a good time to level up Storm since she's buffed for this event?

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soenottelling wrote:

NorthernPolarity wrote:

soenottelling wrote:

When does the first sub end?

They end when the simulator token sale ends at the store page.

First sub ends 49 hours from now?!?!?!

That is correct.

4 Rounds, at 2.5 days per Round - 10 days total for the event.

Assumed 12 hour recycle on points, as each Round is 60 hours in length.

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Lyrian wrote:

soenottelling wrote:

NorthernPolarity wrote:

soenottelling wrote:

When does the first sub end?

They end when the simulator token sale ends at the store page.

First sub ends 49 hours from now?!?!?!

That is correct.

4 Rounds, at 2.5 days per Round - 10 days total for the event.

Assumed 12 hour recycle on points, as each Round is 60 hours in length.

I was going to start at thr end of the first sub. Guess ill just do it sometime tomorrow instead.

Mawtful

soenottelling wrote:

First sub ends 49 hours from now?!?!?!

Yeah. This event gives the appearance of a Scrooge McDuck money bin full of ISO for us to go swimming in, but the reality is that a lot of that ISO comes from the first time completion bonus.

The good news is there should be 3 more subs still to come. Just got to remember it's feast and famine: 1 day to gorge on ISO, 2 days to grind on missions for points.

Kelbris

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Veracity wrote:

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Jeez, that 5k X-force fight was level 171 by the time I got there on hard. Spidey stunlock barely got there for me... pretty brutal. On the other hand, yay for level 141 Punisher! First maxed out hero for me, =D

Only 165 here. Could just be outdated, although that was after clearing a mission.

I don't see much else working for that one, certainly not by 200. Stun-lock, duh, it works for everything, which'll be nice for the people who don't have it and are now getting the difficulty auto-tuned around it. Maybe Captain America & Loki with anyone who can hurt stuff, even Moonstone, depending where you have levels. Loki is ultra-buffed.

May have to invest some iso into Daken for this event: his strike tiles remind me of Wolvie in his prime.

I was tempted at first, but you just know all the hardest fights will be vs him, and at level 69 he's still not great even buffed. I fought him at 70-odd and the tiles were, I think, 81, which is better level for level than unbuffed old Wolvie, but that's already higher than we can go.

I have him at 45 and I'm getting 2 46 damage strike tiles per green, which is pretty good when the main strategy is to spidey stun lock them down. I'm guessing max level the strike tiles would be 50-60ish, which might be worth the 10k iso...

It's 59. Max HP is 4520, which puts his regen at +226.

Eddiemon

Kelbris wrote:

faustianpact wrote:

Haha, the RNG gods must be laughing at me; I did 3 Diabolical pulls and got all Ragnorok. I guess it's not in the cards for me to get Loki.

I've gotten like 4 purples from standard tokens. Pretty ssure he's the most common villain in them.

Don't bother with the diabolicals.

I can't get a purple Loki for love nor money.

Black sure, plenty of the things, so he plays nice with Patch. But no sweet sweet purple.

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Cleared all missions in both standard and hard mode and ranked No.1 in all events.

NorthernPolarity

So 9 missions with 100+100+250+500 = 8550 iso + 5000 iso from that one mission = 13k iso per simulator room. Not too shabby: I think I'm going to use the iso as carrots to farm clears of the missions. It seems like you only need to clear the hard room in order to stay competitive in the main bracket due to rubber banding, which is interesting. This event probably is going to be more about being the least lazy, since people do not want to clear 50 missions per refresh cycle.

Feyda

Good god... just beat the hardmode Daken at 158 using loki, modern storm and OBW... At THREE different points my loki was down under 100 hp before he was able to convert thug tiles to protect tiles. Closes match I've ever had.. gonna go lay down now -_-

Unknown

Hmm first by a long shot in easy mode. Heroic on the other hand have not started and the first fight over doubled to 100 now... probably cant do very many missions at all now.

Not a fan of this global leveling. I do not see why they cant do leveling based on how many times you play a node and reset it on each sub, it can't be unreasonable... Wanted to try a lightning round, so since I left the Heroic until last my main bracket is pretty much forfeit.

Unknown

Ended the Doom match with 2 dead and my punisher with 7hp. New found respect for that guy, almost got me twice with his stupid demons, don't wanna give him the spidey treatment but he's earned it!

NorthernPolarity

Chimaera wrote:

Hmm first by a long shot in easy mode. Heroic on the other hand have not started and the first fight over doubled to 100 now... probably cant do very many missions at all now.

Not a fan of this global leveling. I do not see why they cant do leveling based on how many times you play a node and reset it on each sub, it can't be unreasonable... Wanted to try a lightning round, so since I left the Heroic until last my main bracket is pretty much forfeit.

Demiurge_Will wrote:

NorthernPolarity wrote:

Hey IceIX, what was the design reasoning behind the levels scaling cumulatively as opposed to on a per node basis? A lot of the forumers (myself included) were requesting static scaling so that only each individual node scales, and I was curious as to why you guys were doing this scaling across the board.

Also, does this level scaling persist across different subevents?

Persisting across subevents - yes.

Scaling missions individually doesn't do enough to satisfy the design goals of this feature: making our events maximally interesting for the widest possible subset of players and reducing grind. We couldn't do rewards like the 5000 Iso-8 challenge mission reward in this event in a system like that. It would either be too trivial for top-end players to get or they would be the only people that had any hope of getting it.

It appears that Demiurge does not want to do static scaling because of grind.

Dragon_Nexus

Has it been confirmed how the enemy level rubber banding thing works?
Because I tried tackling the X-force Wolverine posse in the hard mode and they were 185, I think. There abouts. Lost, naturally, so I took a break, killed some of the mooks in the secondary path, went back...and now they're 230.

So I did the old trick or using up all of my guys, going in, retreating over and over thinking that would bring the levels down. Sacrifised 27 of my 30 guys and they were still at 230. So...if they can only go up and not down, I'll very quickly have no chance in this event.

Unknown

Well it seems we are at a crossroads then. They want to reward high level players by making the matches incredibly difficult too fast. MMR and rubber banding favor the newest players with easy matches and coasting uncontested to the finish line. So everyone in the middle is?

You know I would just be happy if they funbalanced Spidey already. Mine is level 15 3/2/2 whatever but I refuse to spend 1 iota of iso on him until they change him. Then they can alter high level PvE and maybe not face 100+ Spideys every PvP match.

Upside, got my 1/5/3 Hood from 72 to 87 today, happy about that. Too bad hes capped at 92.

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Dragon_Nexus wrote:

Has it been confirmed how the enemy level rubber banding thing works?
Because I tried tackling the X-force Wolverine posse in the hard mode and they were 185, I think. There abouts. Lost, naturally, so I took a break, killed some of the mooks in the secondary path, went back...and now they're 230.

So I did the old trick or using up all of my guys, going in, retreating over and over thinking that would bring the levels down. Sacrifised 27 of my 30 guys and they were still at 230. So...if they can only go up and not down, I'll very quickly have no chance in this event.

You already saw lvl 230s? What is your highest level character?