udonomefoo wrote: Sorry if this has been answered, I just scanned all the pages for a red response, but does she have to actually make the match to trigger the healing or is that also just ambiguous wording
Quebbster wrote: eaise wrote: Quebbster wrote: Sagirkedi93 wrote: Okay she is a good and strong charecter. But her powers just like xforce's powers before the nerf. And her heal power is stronger than xforce. I cant understand. Why you nerf the xforce in this stiation. Because top level PvP at the time was only X-force Wolverine + 4* Thor + featured character. With two characters so ahead of the power curve, there was little to no reason to play anything else. They were the two dominant characters in PvP. But now that Jeanbuster is the new meta and 5* characters are out they should reverse the nerf on XFW. He'd go back to usable but wouldn't be the strongest in the game I wouldn't say no to a bit more damage on X-force and a bit more health for Wolverine, but Surgical Strike went from extremely overpowered to acceptable power level, so I don't think it needs to change. It still packs a punch and shakes up the board, it doesn't need to generate and destroy AP.
eaise wrote: Quebbster wrote: Sagirkedi93 wrote: Okay she is a good and strong charecter. But her powers just like xforce's powers before the nerf. And her heal power is stronger than xforce. I cant understand. Why you nerf the xforce in this stiation. Because top level PvP at the time was only X-force Wolverine + 4* Thor + featured character. With two characters so ahead of the power curve, there was little to no reason to play anything else. They were the two dominant characters in PvP. But now that Jeanbuster is the new meta and 5* characters are out they should reverse the nerf on XFW. He'd go back to usable but wouldn't be the strongest in the game
Quebbster wrote: Sagirkedi93 wrote: Okay she is a good and strong charecter. But her powers just like xforce's powers before the nerf. And her heal power is stronger than xforce. I cant understand. Why you nerf the xforce in this stiation. Because top level PvP at the time was only X-force Wolverine + 4* Thor + featured character. With two characters so ahead of the power curve, there was little to no reason to play anything else.
Sagirkedi93 wrote: Okay she is a good and strong charecter. But her powers just like xforce's powers before the nerf. And her heal power is stronger than xforce. I cant understand. Why you nerf the xforce in this stiation.
Marc Spector wrote: notamutant wrote: It is not too late. Please change the colors, even if you keep the skills exactly the same. There is a serious problem you guys have with thinking you HAVE to use certain colors for certain types of skills, or to match the colors of a characters costume. You don't. This is a game, remember? Players would much prefer more color diversity so that we can have more team mate options. Right now, you are essentially saying that out of like 8 or so new character releases in the past few months, you cannot have 4 of them on the same team (in terms of color team mates). Agree Agree Agree. C'mon Demiurge, there's still plenty of time before her release to at least, e.g., switch her green to yellow or something.
notamutant wrote: It is not too late. Please change the colors, even if you keep the skills exactly the same. There is a serious problem you guys have with thinking you HAVE to use certain colors for certain types of skills, or to match the colors of a characters costume. You don't. This is a game, remember? Players would much prefer more color diversity so that we can have more team mate options. Right now, you are essentially saying that out of like 8 or so new character releases in the past few months, you cannot have 4 of them on the same team (in terms of color team mates).
sc0ville wrote: I believe scenario 1 is the correct order of events, I would just like to confirm that if possible.
vinicius18 wrote: 3-5-5 pve and 5-5-3 pvp. Purple may be useful in PVE with Daken and Patch. In pvp Purple is practically useless since the cost is very high as well as being very time consuming the match. The high cure in addition to irritate the opponent will allow more time for you to match the trap. 8 green with 4k damage reminds me of X-Force Wolverine in its golden age.
Buret0 wrote: vinicius18 wrote: 3-5-5 pve and 5-5-3 pvp. Purple may be useful in PVE with Daken and Patch. In pvp Purple is practically useless since the cost is very high as well as being very time consuming the match. The high cure in addition to irritate the opponent will allow more time for you to match the trap. 8 green with 4k damage reminds me of X-Force Wolverine in its golden age. The damage per AP is huge on purple even without any strike tiles. With strike tiles it is insane. Upwards of 1900 damage per AP if if the enemy matches the purple tile or 1267 damage per AP if you match your own tile (and a decent strike tile). In fact, I would probably be intentionally matching the tile most of the time to ensure that it wasn't destroyed by the enemy in a way other than being matched. Paired with a boosted Patch/Blade/Daken, you can really see the strike tiles come out quickly. Paired with Switch, you would see a ton of purple AP to use these abilities. If paired with Patch, a 3/5/5 build would yield the highest damage per AP. Fire off Berserker Rage and then drop two purple trap tiles on the board (assuming that there is still enough basic purple tiles). Match one of them to take out the enemy strike tiles and make yourself another huge black strike tile. A 5/3/5 build is probably where I would go... the true healing is nice, but I'm more interested in the high damage per AP you get from green and purple.
IceIX wrote: Clarified Holding Back and Berserker Fury in the OP. Berserker Fury adds the Strike tiles on top of the damage, so you get both once Holding Back transforms.
vinicius18 wrote: I respect your opinion but for me even if the purple 100k would be ****. It delayed to maximize my Daredevil just by Ambush. Furthermore, Strikes tiles are easily removed by Elektra. Another fact is that need luck and time to be able to match the trap. I know you're an experienced player but I prefer the 5-5-3.
Buret0 wrote: vinicius18 wrote: I respect your opinion but for me even if the purple 100k would be ****. It delayed to maximize my Daredevil just by Ambush. Furthermore, Strikes tiles are easily removed by Elektra. Another fact is that need luck and time to be able to match the trap. I know you're an experienced player but I prefer the 5-5-3. Worst case scenario you are doing 7602 damage and getting a 449 strike tile for 12 purple AP. That's still 633.5 damage per AP and an extra 449 damage going forward. Hulkbuster or OML are the obvious high level choices for her because of rainbowing the actives. When boosted, there are quite a few decent options at 3* to boost her. It means that she's going to need friends to help her maximize her purple, but there's certainly good team choices available for her. Her green maxes out at 570 damage per AP and is mostly going to be used to finish off weak opponents. The red healing is going to be useful on O for healthpack reductions, but totally neuters either her green or or purple damage output. This is fine if you plan on using purple or green for someone else, but that seems to put a further limitation on who she is useful with. It also requires her to tank the colors, which is really only useful for the people with the ISO to max her out early. The minimum requirement of 16 green AP and 9 red AP to activate the strike tiles means that you are unlikely to see green at optimum. Strike tiles late in the match aren't as useful as strike tiles early in the match. Edit: And did you just suggest that Electra would be a good way to reduce strike tiles? If you tried to use Electra to reduce the number of strike tiles that I had, you would be double-crossing yourself.
vinicius18 wrote: I hate slow characters. They formulated a contradictory character than it is because it has always been quite fast. She can do a lot of damage in 5-5-3 with Ant-Man and Elektra. About Hulkbuster and OML, it has no level to play next to them because I consider it a 3 *. If it were an Age of Apocalypse or X-Force would make sense she fight alongside the two. In the All New Wolverines ideal for she is fighting alongside Patch and Daken, which are the same level as her, 3 *. About Elektra, beyond disarm traps she will steal their high Strikes tiles. With Elektra and Ant-Man can choose which best shot during the match.