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itstime1234 wrote:

ebodibo wrote:

Maggotbreath wrote:

For those that are claiming that what they spent money on was changed, it wasn't. You spent money on gold coins. These could have been used to buy roster spaces, recruit cards, shields or to inflate a level. Gold coins can still do all this. What you spent your real money on has not changed or devalued (one could argue it's more important now due to the change in +3ap buff). Unless this is your first online competitive experience you are familiar with nerfs. It happens in every online competitive game, every single one.

Take Marvel Avengers Alliance. It has a huge character roster and is f2p. Nerfs happen every couple of weeks. Buffs too. Am I upset that a character I spent a lot of time on isn't worth ANYTHING in pvp anymore? Sometimes. I get over it and level a different character. It's the same thing here. The EXACT same thing that happens in EVERY online competitive game.

You're just trolling at this point. I just want to be respectfully heard. What if this is the first time happening to me? I don't like it. And if this happened again, I also wouldn't like it.

The fact that we spend money on coins, is the equivalent of currency exchange, or stocks if you will. Which is still money. My opinion, and some of the others, is that we don't like having our investments losing value like this. This makes us feel that they are bad investments, and will make us unlikely to purchase future stocks.

So he is trolling for having a different view point as you. You do realize stocks go up and down in value everyday right. Might not be the best analogy to use. Kind of goes in line with the nerfs and buffs theme. Just saying.

You are trolling when you give people a hard time from stating a message. Telling us our money has not changed or devalued, just discounts what we are trying to say. Telling us to get over it and do nothing, is how nothing gets done.

I have no problem with people giving their opinions. Like the Rags overpower. I'm not giving people a hard time about that statement. But I do have an issue when someone doesn't have anything constructive to say and find it ok to sit there and move on when others see a problem.

And when stocks do decrease, do you not have the right as a stock holder to tell your investment company to change? That's all I'm doing.

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ebodibo wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

ebodibo wrote:

Maggotbreath wrote:

For those that are claiming that what they spent money on was changed, it wasn't. You spent money on gold coins. These could have been used to buy roster spaces, recruit cards, shields or to inflate a level. Gold coins can still do all this. What you spent your real money on has not changed or devalued (one could argue it's more important now due to the change in +3ap buff). Unless this is your first online competitive experience you are familiar with nerfs. It happens in every online competitive game, every single one.

Take Marvel Avengers Alliance. It has a huge character roster and is f2p. Nerfs happen every couple of weeks. Buffs too. Am I upset that a character I spent a lot of time on isn't worth ANYTHING in pvp anymore? Sometimes. I get over it and level a different character. It's the same thing here. The EXACT same thing that happens in EVERY online competitive game.

You're just trolling at this point. I just want to be respectfully heard. What if this is the first time happening to me? I don't like it. And if this happened again, I also wouldn't like it.

The fact that we spend money on coins, is the equivalent of currency exchange, or stocks if you will. Which is still money. My opinion, and some of the others, is that we don't like having our investments losing value like this. This makes us feel that they are bad investments, and will make us unlikely to purchase future stocks.

So he is trolling for having a different view point as you. You do realize stocks go up and down in value everyday right. Might not be the best analogy to use. Kind of goes in line with the nerfs and buffs theme. Just saying.

You are trolling when you give people a hard time from stating a message. Telling us our money has not changed or devalued, just discounts what we are trying to say. Telling us to get over it and do nothing, is how nothing gets done.

I have no problem with people giving their opinions. Like the Rags overpower. I'm not giving people a hard time about that statement. But I do have an issue when someone doesn't have anything constructive to say and find it ok to sit there and move on when others see a problem.

And when stocks do decrease, do you not have the right as a stock holder to tell your investment company to change? That's all I'm doing.

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For those commenting that "I did not get what I expected, thus I have been tricked", you might want to reassess if your expectations might not have been slightly out of line as well.

My view is that each game should take between two and five minutes of match 3 puzzling. The game currently is quite close to that. I do not believe in "I win buttons".

Feeding a power spiral is bad. There is a reason that collectible card games tries to keep the powerspiral from getting out of control, and why the best of them have it under control for long times. Nerfs are very valid. Balancing a game for the desired outcome is valid. Buffing is valid, until you feed the power spiral.

The only thing I do not see valid in this game is banning. Let's not go there.

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I decided to play for a couple hours tonight. I went to bed at 38th in Pve only playing like 2-3 rounds a day. Didn't play it today and I'm still 42nd. No one as anywhere near any good progressions.

Played no holds barred a bit. That was ok but I had a decent mmr so no super crazy teams and I had my high lvl rags with mid lvl spidey. Swapping out dr d and mags. Made a run to 550. Was gonna try to make it to 600 and shield for a day. Got knocked down to 450 and said scrw it I might try tomorrow. No shield.

Prolly will get 5th yellow hood and be able to make him lvl 90ish but it's kinda meh. Sad that they gonna nerf spidey. I don't think I'll make it playing past that point.

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My beef is mainly with the recent pve matches. Why do i get 50 points from trying to beat 3 level 230 maggia? In the thick as thieves event, i was earning 2000 pts a pop from fights. Why did this drop to 50 all of a sudden? Ridiculous. Also, the maggia and hammer are way stronger than any character could ever be. No character has an ability that only costs 4 gems that can do 2000 damage. The closest we have is ragnarok and maybe juggernaut. At least juggernaut hits himself as well.

I just find it hard that normal people like you and me are apparently stronger than gods that can destroy entire cities at a whim.

Twysta

People keep going on about Maggia in the new event. Are there missions I'm missing or something?

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One obvious thing to balance: Low hit points heroes should be able to manage high HP ones. If not there's no reason to play other things than Ares, Thor, Hulk and so on.

At the moment you have nearly no interest in playing low HP heroes as those who do the highest damages are those who have the highest HP too...
And when the first ones have damage powers, it's at an incredible cost (yellow Hood for example). Ares yellow one shot you, for half the cost.

Stop making Tanks huge damage dealers exclusively, and allow low HP heroes to do better damages.

Another things, bring us more combos ! The more combo you bring the more chance you have to see us playing with other heroes. And superheroes fights are always about combos after all.

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Morphee-moi-mal wrote:

One obvious thing to balance: Low hit points heroes should be able to manage high HP ones. If not there's no reason to play other things than Ares, Thor, Hulk and so on.

At the moment you have nearly no interest in playing low HP heroes as those who do the highest damages are those who have the highest HP too...

Right. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone using C.Storm, and no one would even notice if they just took OBW out of the game.

Popularity of HP-bags has a lot to do with how they'll behave (badly, basically, in all cases) on defense, so at least a lot of HP might slow someone down. People worry too much about defense, imo. I did fine in Best There Is using the second stupidest team I could think of (Patch, Hulk, C.Storm, all underleveled and Hulk only 3/5 black).

The Hood's yellow isn't a damage power.

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NorthernPolarity wrote:

Nerfing 2 characters is also a lot easier than buffing every other one.

Yeah, so what's your point? The devs should do the easy thing, not the right thing?

Twysta

You think that buffing every character is the right thing?

Verno5x

I'm actually enjoying this thread even though I came in expecting another thread just full of complaints. This thread is just a small handful of people who have the opinion that nerfs should never happen (which anyone who has ever played an online game knows is a crazy opinion to have) and a lot of people having a reasonable discussion. As someone with a maxed out Rags, Thor, and Wolverine all 3 of those nerfs were very much needed. The Ragnarok nerf was a bit heavy handed in my opinion but Thor and Wolverine were handled well. They both had some powers get worse while others get better and are now options rather than required for most events. I'm hopeful that further nerfs and buffs are given the same amount of care and attention that the devs gave Thor and Wolverine rather than the heavy handed nerf of Ragnarok.

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Twysta wrote:

You think that buffing every character is the right thing?

I, and at least 20 other people firmly believe, that if you have 2 overpowered characters over the other characters, the right thing to do would be to buff all those other characters. Nerfing the 2 overpowered characters was the EASY choice, NOT the RIGHT choice.

So yes, I believe it is the right thing.

Kiamodo

Why not add random buffing? Like every week no matter the event this one character is getting a boost.

Twysta

Well I disagree but I respect your opinion.

"You deserve to die! DIE! DIE! GO TO HELL AND BURN"

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I'm late to the party but it's obvious to see what peoples problem is.

Some people feel cheated because they put all their resources, real or fake, into leveling up the 'best' (read: most OP) guys in the game. Then they got nerfed.

It's not hard to understand why they feel cheated. If I leveled Rags and Thor and Wolvie all to max, my good 3* guys wouldn't be leveled by now. So now they feel they can't compete, because their MMR is inflated by all the winning they did with the OP guys.

So now they feel like they are starting over, only with the big disadvantage of not getting all the new guy goodies.

This I totally get.

The problem is that for everybody else, the balance of the game just could not stand Rags 2ap click to win. Also, what is the point of getting 3* covers when Thor and Wolvie are better than most.

On the buff everyone topic, of course that's impossible. I don't think the game is better when the rounds end in just a few turns.

I think the balance changes are very positive. I kept my Wolvie, and I still use him. If I had an 85 thor I would use him for sure over ares.

The problem with this game is the broken PvE, and MMR matchmaking. If those things worked I think all but the most salty people would be fine.

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We had way better suggestions posted all around. Those were left on the table as well.

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mechgouki wrote:

I, and at least 20 other people firmly believe, that if you have 2 overpowered characters over the other characters, the right thing to do would be to buff all those other characters.

This approach only works if there is room left for buffs. Looking at Rags, there just wasn't any reasonable room left, the only improvement to winning a match without the opponent getting a move in would have been winning the match without even participating. Granted, Thor and Wolvie weren't that ridiculously overpowered, instead of adjusting their skills they could just have given all other chars triple health and damage output. Probably would have been a lot less popular once players began to notice that this would also triple their regeneration downtime.

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@Twysta

Thanks. I respect your opinion too.

"EAT TINYKITTY AND DIE, YOU MOTHER-TINYKITTYER!!!!!"

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mechgouki wrote:

@Twysta

Thanks. I respect your opinion too.

"EAT TINYKITTY AND DIE, YOU MOTHER-TINYKITTYER!!!!!"

Watch it only he is aloud to say rude things he gets upset and goes away if you set him straight.

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Jester Day wrote:

For those commenting that "I did not get what I expected, thus I have been tricked", you might want to reassess if your expectations might not have been slightly out of line as well.

My view is that each game should take between two and five minutes of match 3 puzzling. The game currently is quite close to that. I do not believe in "I win buttons".

Feeding a power spiral is bad. There is a reason that collectible card games tries to keep the powerspiral from getting out of control, and why the best of them have it under control for long times. Nerfs are very valid. Balancing a game for the desired outcome is valid. Buffing is valid, until you feed the power spiral.

The only thing I do not see valid in this game is banning. Let's not go there.

If they nerf, fine, I'm saying offer an equivalent refund. Not 50%. Every other service or product industry does this. My "expectation" is to be able to use what I paid for. And if that changes, I want to be able to get a refund or equivalent credit. Is that not fair?