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itstime1234

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

ebodibo wrote:

Here's my issue with nerfs in this particular game. When you spend money or tons of time working on something, its like your baby. Your raise their levels, give it a career path outlined the guidance counselor on the stats sheet, play with it until they are strong and can stand on their feet. Only to have a the government come in and say, you're now to good for your own good. You front line awesome dude, prepared to be neutered. You will now forever be a benchwarmer or to be brought out for special occasions with buffs to relive your glory days.

I have played another game like this where they just adjusted the other cards to be better, and I liked that system much better. At least no one felt like their time or money was taken away from them.

And really... I played a ton and never thought the Thorvorine combo was that impressive before. It never stopped me from attacking them and I'm a relatively new player (since the 1st of the year). I also didn't see them nearly as much as everyone said. Instead we are now back to seeing Iron Man, Storm and Black Window everywhere again. How does that stimulate a diverse set of teams.

They **** 3 star cards should have been made better.

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

At the end of the day he paid for game and expects what he paid for your really ought to think about that a bit.

Really this old debate again. I buy items all the time that dont live up to their expectations, can I get a refund. Gravity sucked compared to my expectations, so what life goes on. Having Rags, Thor or whoever nerfed should not shatter ones happiness. You guys make it sound like a girl broke up with you. Plenty of fish in the sea my friend.

This is match 3 at the end of the day with some well known characters thrown in.

Unknown

It helps to think of Thor as the 2* IM40. High health, yellow feeds other people (or his) attacks. Red sucks because you're gonna use someone else's red anyway. Thor is a meat shield/battery now instead of a meat shield/battery/offense.

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Eddiemon wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

Eddiemon wrote:

pulis wrote:

It's not simple, all i'm saying it, you don't have to nerf. You can strengthen everything else. Make many multiple tweaks week after week. Ragnarok too strong, make every character a little stronger. Ragnarok storm combo still too strong. Change powers to make it so that storm can get locked down or ragnarok can get locked down. Just something to stop the combo. Something like daredevils power where doing a green match stuns the team for 1 round or something. Or deals 3000 damage to the whole team.

Or, and I know you are struggling with this, you can nerf the one completely broken ability.

Ragnarok one round killing everyone with grey widow or locking out the board with modern storm?
A. nerf that one character.
B. increase everyone's health so that grey widow is no longer able to do significant damage. Now everyone else is underpowered so buff everyone else. If you beff everyone else enough rag ends up in his current relative position for a hell of a lot of work. Oh and hold off on releasing any new characters for a while because rewriting everything needs to be done so the new character is the right power.
C. Implement a hard counter to a first round 2 red activated ability. Even if you can find one that isn't broken, you now force everyone to carry that character on defence to deter 20 second losses. The game gets so much better apparently. And daredevils power takes 3 turns to deploy if all the matches are available, so it needs to be way more powerful, in fact it would really need to be passive given the speed of grey widows kill.

You can choose A, the simple, logical choice, or you can choose breaking everything else for no reason I can understand. There is no benefit to the game of having a 2nd round kill ability.

numerous characters are unplayable because they are weak so your logic is flawed.

I don't get your logic.
Weak characters mean that there is benefit to a 2 round kill? I don't get how you associate the two?

I don't get how weak characters are even relevant to the never ever nerf anyone argument. Unless you somehow extrapolated from 'you sometimes need to nerf people' as meaning that 'you can never buff people', where those two statements don't have anything in common.

lol how do you not get that their are characters so bad they are unplayable is not a good thing??? How do you not understand that you need to make all characters playable before determining whats overpowered? Really man this isn't hard.

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ebodibo wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

ebodibo wrote:

Here's my issue with nerfs in this particular game. When you spend money or tons of time working on something, its like your baby. Your raise their levels, give it a career path outlined the guidance counselor on the stats sheet, play with it until they are strong and can stand on their feet. Only to have a the government come in and say, you're now to good for your own good. You front line awesome dude, prepared to be neutered. You will now forever be a benchwarmer or to be brought out for special occasions with buffs to relive your glory days.

I have played another game like this where they just adjusted the other cards to be better, and I liked that system much better. At least no one felt like their time or money was taken away from them.

And really... I played a ton and never thought the Thorvorine combo was that impressive before. It never stopped me from attacking them and I'm a relatively new player (since the 1st of the year). I also didn't see them nearly as much as everyone said. Instead we are now back to seeing Iron Man, Storm and Black Window everywhere again. How does that stimulate a diverse set of teams.

They **** 3 star cards should have been made better.

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

Relax, its a metaphor.

Point being, why would anyone want to put more money into a game when what the pay for will continue to get worse.

We don't want to that's the point. We feel cheated out of what we have spent because now we can't play.

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justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

ebodibo wrote:

Here's my issue with nerfs in this particular game. When you spend money or tons of time working on something, its like your baby. Your raise their levels, give it a career path outlined the guidance counselor on the stats sheet, play with it until they are strong and can stand on their feet. Only to have a the government come in and say, you're now to good for your own good. You front line awesome dude, prepared to be neutered. You will now forever be a benchwarmer or to be brought out for special occasions with buffs to relive your glory days.

I have played another game like this where they just adjusted the other cards to be better, and I liked that system much better. At least no one felt like their time or money was taken away from them.

And really... I played a ton and never thought the Thorvorine combo was that impressive before. It never stopped me from attacking them and I'm a relatively new player (since the 1st of the year). I also didn't see them nearly as much as everyone said. Instead we are now back to seeing Iron Man, Storm and Black Window everywhere again. How does that stimulate a diverse set of teams.

They **** 3 star cards should have been made better.

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

At the end of the day he paid for game and expects what he paid for your really ought to think about that a bit.

I'm one of those people who paid to level ironman back when it was still 10 levels a power. 2 days after i had a level 4 red power, they decided to nerf the system so current players didn't have such a hard time levelling up. My 4/10 ironman became a 2/6 ironman. That's not fair in the slightest. Had i had news about the lowering of levels, i would not have spent real money levelling something that would not count. I could've had a 4/6 red cover ironman but it seems 2 covers was stolen from me. Yes 2 covers is piddly money and also they are throwing ironman away willy nilly. But i could've used that money for maybe 1 level of a 3 star cover later on or had an easier time leveling my other covers.

They could've BUFFED the system and instead started giving covers away like crazy. I would not have wasted my money, there would still be a 10 level system but people would be getting so many recruit tokens that they could level up a lot of things.

Buffing everything is better than nerfing everything.

itstime1234

justaplayer wrote:

Eddiemon wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

Eddiemon wrote:

It's not simple, all i'm saying it, you don't have to nerf. You can strengthen everything else. Make many multiple tweaks week after week. Ragnarok too strong, make every character a little stronger. Ragnarok storm combo still too strong. Change powers to make it so that storm can get locked down or ragnarok can get locked down. Just something to stop the combo. Something like daredevils power where doing a green match stuns the team for 1 round or something. Or deals 3000 damage to the whole team.

Or, and I know you are struggling with this, you can nerf the one completely broken ability.

Ragnarok one round killing everyone with grey widow or locking out the board with modern storm?
A. nerf that one character.
B. increase everyone's health so that grey widow is no longer able to do significant damage. Now everyone else is underpowered so buff everyone else. If you beff everyone else enough rag ends up in his current relative position for a hell of a lot of work. Oh and hold off on releasing any new characters for a while because rewriting everything needs to be done so the new character is the right power.
C. Implement a hard counter to a first round 2 red activated ability. Even if you can find one that isn't broken, you now force everyone to carry that character on defence to deter 20 second losses. The game gets so much better apparently. And daredevils power takes 3 turns to deploy if all the matches are available, so it needs to be way more powerful, in fact it would really need to be passive given the speed of grey widows kill.

You can choose A, the simple, logical choice, or you can choose breaking everything else for no reason I can understand. There is no benefit to the game of having a 2nd round kill ability.

numerous characters are unplayable because they are weak so your logic is flawed.

I don't get your logic.
Weak characters mean that there is benefit to a 2 round kill? I don't get how you associate the two?

I don't get how weak characters are even relevant to the never ever nerf anyone argument. Unless you somehow extrapolated from 'you sometimes need to nerf people' as meaning that 'you can never buff people', where those two statements don't have anything in common.

lol how do you not get that their are characters so bad they are unplayable is not a good thing??? How do you not understand that you need to make all characters playable before determining whats overpowered? Really man this isn't hard.[/quote]

Relax, calm down and breathe. I am deeply hurt too that Juggs just doesnt stack up anymore. I feel your pain. The only character unplayable that got nerfed IMO is Loki and even he is seeing a revival due to Patch. I am not interested in debating whether Rags nerf was good or bad. I have a maxed out one myself and use him here and there still. Overall he needed a nerf, that is my opinion, you have one and I respect that. What I do not get is someone being so worked up over the fact that poor old rags cant single handedly kill an opposing team anymore.

ITS A GAME. Right now a **** one due to other changes by the Devs but the nerf wasn't the root cause of these problems. Ares event was great and that was post Nerf.

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itstime1234 wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

ebodibo wrote:

Here's my issue with nerfs in this particular game. When you spend money or tons of time working on something, its like your baby. Your raise their levels, give it a career path outlined the guidance counselor on the stats sheet, play with it until they are strong and can stand on their feet. Only to have a the government come in and say, you're now to good for your own good. You front line awesome dude, prepared to be neutered. You will now forever be a benchwarmer or to be brought out for special occasions with buffs to relive your glory days.

I have played another game like this where they just adjusted the other cards to be better, and I liked that system much better. At least no one felt like their time or money was taken away from them.

And really... I played a ton and never thought the Thorvorine combo was that impressive before. It never stopped me from attacking them and I'm a relatively new player (since the 1st of the year). I also didn't see them nearly as much as everyone said. Instead we are now back to seeing Iron Man, Storm and Black Window everywhere again. How does that stimulate a diverse set of teams.

They **** 3 star cards should have been made better.

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

At the end of the day he paid for game and expects what he paid for your really ought to think about that a bit.

Really this old debate again. I buy items all the time that dont live up to their expectations, can I get a refund. Gravity sucked compared to my expectations, so what life goes on. Having Rags, Thor or whoever nerfed should not shatter ones happiness. You guys make it sound like a girl broke up with you. Plenty of fish in the sea my friend.

This is match 3 at the end of the day with some well known characters thrown in.

Well it is nice that you have money to burn I value mine. When I pay for something I expect to get what I pay for. If you don't that's your concern. Its a matter of principles.

Unknown

itstime1234 wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

ebodibo wrote:

Here's my issue with nerfs in this particular game. When you spend money or tons of time working on something, its like your baby. Your raise their levels, give it a career path outlined the guidance counselor on the stats sheet, play with it until they are strong and can stand on their feet. Only to have a the government come in and say, you're now to good for your own good. You front line awesome dude, prepared to be neutered. You will now forever be a benchwarmer or to be brought out for special occasions with buffs to relive your glory days.

I have played another game like this where they just adjusted the other cards to be better, and I liked that system much better. At least no one felt like their time or money was taken away from them.

And really... I played a ton and never thought the Thorvorine combo was that impressive before. It never stopped me from attacking them and I'm a relatively new player (since the 1st of the year). I also didn't see them nearly as much as everyone said. Instead we are now back to seeing Iron Man, Storm and Black Window everywhere again. How does that stimulate a diverse set of teams.

They **** 3 star cards should have been made better.

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

At the end of the day he paid for game and expects what he paid for your really ought to think about that a bit.

Really this old debate again. I buy items all the time that dont live up to their expectations, can I get a refund. Gravity sucked compared to my expectations, so what life goes on. Having Rags, Thor or whoever nerfed should not shatter ones happiness. You guys make it sound like a girl broke up with you. Plenty of fish in the sea my friend.

This is match 3 at the end of the day with some well known characters thrown in.

Are you talking about gravity as in the force enacted upon you by another object? Or are we talking about something else? Tell me then, when is the last time they nerfed gravity overnight so that instead of you weighing 200 lbs, you weighed 4000 lbs? I can imagine you wouldn't be able to get out of your collapsed bed. Your house would be crumbling around you from the sheer weight that the supports were not designed for. Your car would waste a hell of a lot of gas and your tires are wearing out faster than usual. The screws holding down your engine block snap and drop the engine block into your garage floor.

Life goes on though. suck it up.

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justaplayer wrote:

Well it is nice that you have money to burn I value mine. When I pay for something I expect to get what I pay for. If you don't that's your concern. Its a matter of principles.

Not just money but the time spent levelling rags because I saw that so many people found out the combo and were owning me. I used so many hours getting tons of iso to level up my ragnarok so I could have an easier time earning more iso. As soon as i got a level 50 rags, I started playing with that combo and earned enough to get to level 75 rags. Then i was nerfed. I could've used like 40,000 iso to spend somewhere else instead of rags. Not that rags is useless, but he just didn't do as much damage as thor/spidey/ironman combo. I literally could have stopped playing, done some exercise, walk the dog, cook meals and i would be in the predicament i am in now. Or i could've used that time to work overtime and instead earn money that i know is more useful that anything that the game will ever offer me.

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In any case, tangents aside, my customer feedback is, don't sell me something and take features away from me.

Try doing this at a car dealership.

If you do, I should have the ability to get a "full" refund or "equivalent credit" (not 50%) of the items that were removed / modified. Especially if I paid for it.
Otherwise don't expect repeat business.

At this point I can't imagine myself putting any more money into this game.

Unknown

For those that are claiming that what they spent money on was changed, it wasn't. You spent money on gold coins. These could have been used to buy roster spaces, recruit cards, shields or to inflate a level. Gold coins can still do all this. What you spent your real money on has not changed or devalued (one could argue it's more important now due to the change in +3ap buff). Unless this is your first online competitive experience you are familiar with nerfs. It happens in every online competitive game, every single one.

Take Marvel Avengers Alliance. It has a huge character roster and is f2p. Nerfs happen every couple of weeks. Buffs too. Am I upset that a character I spent a lot of time on isn't worth ANYTHING in pvp anymore? Sometimes. I get over it and level a different character. It's the same thing here. The EXACT same thing that happens in EVERY online competitive game.

itstime1234

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

Here's my issue with nerfs in this particular game. When you spend money or tons of time working on something, its like your baby. Your raise their levels, give it a career path outlined the guidance counselor on the stats sheet, play with it until they are strong and can stand on their feet. Only to have a the government come in and say, you're now to good for your own good. You front line awesome dude, prepared to be neutered. You will now forever be a benchwarmer or to be brought out for special occasions with buffs to relive your glory days.

I have played another game like this where they just adjusted the other cards to be better, and I liked that system much better. At least no one felt like their time or money was taken away from them.

And really... I played a ton and never thought the Thorvorine combo was that impressive before. It never stopped me from attacking them and I'm a relatively new player (since the 1st of the year). I also didn't see them nearly as much as everyone said. Instead we are now back to seeing Iron Man, Storm and Black Window everywhere again. How does that stimulate a diverse set of teams.

They **** 3 star cards should have been made better.

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

At the end of the day he paid for game and expects what he paid for your really ought to think about that a bit.

Really this old debate again. I buy items all the time that dont live up to their expectations, can I get a refund. Gravity sucked compared to my expectations, so what life goes on. Having Rags, Thor or whoever nerfed should not shatter ones happiness. You guys make it sound like a girl broke up with you. Plenty of fish in the sea my friend.

This is match 3 at the end of the day with some well known characters thrown in.

Well it is nice that you have money to burn I value mine. When I pay for something I expect to get what I pay for. If you don't that's your concern. Its a matter of principles.[/quote]


I didnt spend any money. I could drop a bucketload tomorrow and be ok with it but why would I. Defeats the challenge of the game if you just buy your way to victory. I did buy $20 worth of hero points more as a thank you to the devs for the countless hours of entertainment it has provided me but thats about it. Well I guess you need to incorporate the idea of a "too good to be true" character possibly being nerfed. If you didnt realize between the fact that everyone was saying how it was only in due time Rags would get nerfed as well as the fact that several others had already been nerfed, then you really need to rethink things through before your next purchase

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Maggotbreath wrote:

For those that are claiming that what they spent money on was changed, it wasn't. You spent money on gold coins. These could have been used to buy roster spaces, recruit cards, shields or to inflate a level. Gold coins can still do all this. What you spent your real money on has not changed or devalued (one could argue it's more important now due to the change in +3ap buff). Unless this is your first online competitive experience you are familiar with nerfs. It happens in every online competitive game, every single one.

Take Marvel Avengers Alliance. It has a huge character roster and is f2p. Nerfs happen every couple of weeks. Buffs too. Am I upset that a character I spent a lot of time on isn't worth ANYTHING in pvp anymore? Sometimes. I get over it and level a different character. It's the same thing here. The EXACT same thing that happens in EVERY online competitive game.

You're just trolling at this point. I just want to be respectfully heard. What if this is the first time happening to me? I don't like it. And if this happened again, I also wouldn't like it.

The fact that we spend money on coins, is the equivalent of currency exchange, or stocks if you will. Which is still money. My opinion, and some of the others, is that we don't like having our investments losing value like this. This makes us feel that they are bad investments, and will make us unlikely to purchase future stocks.

Eddiemon

justaplayer wrote:

lol how do you not get that their are characters so bad they are unplayable is not a good thing??? How do you not understand that you need to make all characters playable before determining whats overpowered? Really man this isn't hard.

I don't get how bad characters are relevant to the logic of whether rag needed a nerf. They are totally separate issues. Buffing dark avengers black widow has no bearing on rags 2 round kill ability paired with grey widow. They are totally separate issues, and one is not a logical fallacy of the other.

You are claiming that you couldn't tell that a second round kill wasn't overpowered? Seriously, the other weak characters were obscuring that fact from view? You thought maybe every match should be a 2 round kill and Hawkeye wasn't getting with the program?

Rag was broken. Other characters are broken. That is how I see it. I cannot accept your argument that rag wasn't broken just because other characters were broken. That makes no sense unless rag was specifically contributing to their brokenness.

After the rag nerf you still aren't using the broken underpowered characters which proves that his power and their power are not related.

Thy are buffing some characters. Using the new buffed characters will still have no bearing on whether rag was overpowered. Buffing underpowered characters is good. Nerfing game breaking characters is good. There in no logical fallacy there.

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Maggotbreath wrote:

For those that are claiming that what they spent money on was changed, it wasn't. You spent money on gold coins. These could have been used to buy roster spaces, recruit cards, shields or to inflate a level. Gold coins can still do all this. What you spent your real money on has not changed or devalued (one could argue it's more important now due to the change in +3ap buff). Unless this is your first online competitive experience you are familiar with nerfs. It happens in every online competitive game, every single one.

Take Marvel Avengers Alliance. It has a huge character roster and is f2p. Nerfs happen every couple of weeks. Buffs too. Am I upset that a character I spent a lot of time on isn't worth ANYTHING in pvp anymore? Sometimes. I get over it and level a different character. It's the same thing here. The EXACT same thing that happens in EVERY online competitive game.

You must work for them because now you are talking semantics and dodging the issue with a technicality.

itstime1234

ebodibo wrote:

Maggotbreath wrote:

For those that are claiming that what they spent money on was changed, it wasn't. You spent money on gold coins. These could have been used to buy roster spaces, recruit cards, shields or to inflate a level. Gold coins can still do all this. What you spent your real money on has not changed or devalued (one could argue it's more important now due to the change in +3ap buff). Unless this is your first online competitive experience you are familiar with nerfs. It happens in every online competitive game, every single one.

Take Marvel Avengers Alliance. It has a huge character roster and is f2p. Nerfs happen every couple of weeks. Buffs too. Am I upset that a character I spent a lot of time on isn't worth ANYTHING in pvp anymore? Sometimes. I get over it and level a different character. It's the same thing here. The EXACT same thing that happens in EVERY online competitive game.

You're just trolling at this point. I just want to be respectfully heard. What if this is the first time happening to me? I don't like it. And if this happened again, I also wouldn't like it.

The fact that we spend money on coins, is the equivalent of currency exchange, or stocks if you will. Which is still money. My opinion, and some of the others, is that we don't like having our investments losing value like this. This makes us feel that they are bad investments, and will make us unlikely to purchase future stocks.

So he is trolling for having a different view point as you. You do realize stocks go up and down in value everyday right. Might not be the best analogy to use. Kind of goes in line with the nerfs and buffs theme. Just saying.

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itstime1234 wrote:

I didnt spend any money. I could drop a bucketload tomorrow and be ok with it but why would I. Defeats the challenge of the game if you just buy your way to victory. I did buy $20 worth of hero points more as a thank you to the devs for the countless hours of entertainment it has provided me but thats about it. Well I guess you need to incorporate the idea of a "too good to be true" character possibly being nerfed. If you didnt realize between the fact that everyone was saying how it was only in due time Rags would get nerfed as well as the fact that several others had already been nerfed, then you really need to rethink things through before your next purchase

1 I wasn't here for any of the Rag stuff I was playing happily until the other day until the message they displayed telling us they were nerfing the characters and then found out about the ISO Tax
2. If you didn't spend any money please don't tell the rest of us that did what we should or shouldn't be doing. I really don't get where others think they have the right to tell you how you should spend your money.

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itstime1234 wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

At the end of the day he paid for game and expects what he paid for your really ought to think about that a bit.

Really this old debate again. I buy items all the time that dont live up to their expectations, can I get a refund. Gravity sucked compared to my expectations, so what life goes on. Having Rags, Thor or whoever nerfed should not shatter ones happiness. You guys make it sound like a girl broke up with you. Plenty of fish in the sea my friend.

This is match 3 at the end of the day with some well known characters thrown in.

Well it is nice that you have money to burn I value mine. When I pay for something I expect to get what I pay for. If you don't that's your concern. Its a matter of principles.

I didnt spend any money. I could drop a bucketload tomorrow and be ok with it but why would I. Defeats the challenge of the game if you just buy your way to victory. I did buy $20 worth of hero points more as a thank you to the devs for the countless hours of entertainment it has provided me but thats about it. Well I guess you need to incorporate the idea of a "too good to be true" character possibly being nerfed. If you didnt realize between the fact that everyone was saying how it was only in due time Rags would get nerfed as well as the fact that several others had already been nerfed, then you really need to rethink things through before your next purchase[/quote]

Well, I was not a member of the forums before this. In fact, I started playing post Rags power up so I don't even know what that was about. But was Thor and Wolvie really that bad, or was it really more of their availability?

And it definitely has been a lesson learned. I won't be spending any more money here.

itstime1234

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

I didnt spend any money. I could drop a bucketload tomorrow and be ok with it but why would I. Defeats the challenge of the game if you just buy your way to victory. I did buy $20 worth of hero points more as a thank you to the devs for the countless hours of entertainment it has provided me but thats about it. Well I guess you need to incorporate the idea of a "too good to be true" character possibly being nerfed. If you didnt realize between the fact that everyone was saying how it was only in due time Rags would get nerfed as well as the fact that several others had already been nerfed, then you really need to rethink things through before your next purchase

1 I wasn't here for any of the Rag stuff I was playing happily until the other day until the message they displayed telling us they were nerfing the characters and then found out about the ISO Tax
2. If you didn't spend any money please don't tell the rest of us that did what we should or shouldn't be doing. I really don't get where others think they have the right to tell you how you should spend your money.

1. I did spend money. Read my post again.

2. There isnt a first and second class citizenry right to this forum dependant on money spent.

3. ISO tax has not even been incorporated which I dont understand how it even plays into the concept of nerfing since you cant buy ISO with hero points and if you did purchase ISO separately well you are the first I have heard to do that.

4. If Rags isnt what has you all riled up sounds like Thor Wolvie is your case, for whcih they are 2* characters and are now in line with other 2* characters. Most actually agree with the nerf level for these 2 characters.

itstime1234

ebodibo wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

itstime1234 wrote:

You really need to get out more. End of the day its a game. If a character is your baby going through to manhood, something is very much lacking.

At the end of the day he paid for game and expects what he paid for your really ought to think about that a bit.

Really this old debate again. I buy items all the time that dont live up to their expectations, can I get a refund. Gravity sucked compared to my expectations, so what life goes on. Having Rags, Thor or whoever nerfed should not shatter ones happiness. You guys make it sound like a girl broke up with you. Plenty of fish in the sea my friend.

This is match 3 at the end of the day with some well known characters thrown in.

Well it is nice that you have money to burn I value mine. When I pay for something I expect to get what I pay for. If you don't that's your concern. Its a matter of principles.

I didnt spend any money. I could drop a bucketload tomorrow and be ok with it but why would I. Defeats the challenge of the game if you just buy your way to victory. I did buy $20 worth of hero points more as a thank you to the devs for the countless hours of entertainment it has provided me but thats about it. Well I guess you need to incorporate the idea of a "too good to be true" character possibly being nerfed. If you didnt realize between the fact that everyone was saying how it was only in due time Rags would get nerfed as well as the fact that several others had already been nerfed, then you really need to rethink things through before your next purchase[/quote]

Well, I was not a member of the forums before this. In fact, I started playing post Rags power up so I don't even know what that was about. But was Thor and Wolvie really that bad, or was it really more of their availability?

And it definitely has been a lesson learned. I won't be spending any more money here.[/quote]

They are 2* characters end of the day. Thor was so good he was preferred to most 3*. Wolvie was borderline. I think the heal was overdone but that was it.