morph3us wrote: I'm also going to pitch in on the side of the Fury is underrated camp. There are only three characters in the game who can potentially one shot a high health opponent: X-Force, IMHB, and Fury.
Cymmina wrote: jimstarooney wrote: stowaway wrote: I don't know about Kingpin or Cyclops as top five. Top Ten for sure. If Kamala or Hulkbuster are going to take someone's place in the Top Five, I'd vote The Hood down way before any of the others. Hood accelerates everybody thats why hes rated so high, hes a staple of every1s roster.troster.theres a good reason why he didnt get a health buff. Personally, I don't feel like Hood is top 5 (but I can certainly see why the others are). He's my only fully covered 3* character (5/4/4). With only 4 blue covers, he just sits around being useless. I'd rather have OBW or Loki on my team if I'm needing AP steal. Twin Pistols seems rather lackluster compared to Righteous Uppercut, and Intimidation is pretty lol compared to Jab Jab Cross (is it even good if you use characters that use count down timers?). Hell, I don't even have Luke Cage even close to max covered (5/2/2) and I still think he is the better character. Maybe my opinion will change if I ever get that last blue cover for Hood and have some of those other top tier characters to pair with him.
jimstarooney wrote: stowaway wrote: I don't know about Kingpin or Cyclops as top five. Top Ten for sure. If Kamala or Hulkbuster are going to take someone's place in the Top Five, I'd vote The Hood down way before any of the others. Hood accelerates everybody thats why hes rated so high, hes a staple of every1s roster.troster.theres a good reason why he didnt get a health buff.
stowaway wrote: I don't know about Kingpin or Cyclops as top five. Top Ten for sure. If Kamala or Hulkbuster are going to take someone's place in the Top Five, I'd vote The Hood down way before any of the others.
Vhailorx wrote: Overall, the top 5 is pretty good (hood is the only character that doesn't belong in the top 5 discussion). But 6-10 is a bit of mess. Lazy Cap, Patch, and cMags are all way to high. Those are very solid characters, but not as good as the more recent . Khan, Fury, Cyclops, Xforce, IMHB, 4* thor Hood = Loki they both serve the same function, and whatever loki give up to hood y not having direct damage, he makes up for his incredibly useful purple and higher health (plus he totally destroys teams that rely on strike or protect tiles). Both are top tier support characters, and should be in the back half of the to 20. Luke Cage definitely belongs in the top 5. He has probably the best defensive skill in the game, and pairs it with two awesome damage dealing abilities that are different and almost always useful in their own way. Hood goes out of the top 5 before cage. IMO, the top 7 should be something like: Prof X Iron Fist IMHB Lazy Thor Cage Cyclops Kamala Khan And very sincere thanks to EBM for all the work of doing these rankings!
raisinbman wrote: It's no coincidence 2/3 of SonofMagstorm were top 5 in this poll. And the haters doubted me.
daibar wrote: Hulkbuster and KK are underranked, HB criminally so. If I were to redo the top 10 myself, I'd drop Blade and Cyclops, pushing Steve to 10th. I dare say that the interim rankings are closer in terms of comparative rankings - these results seem more biased by things like - "well X-Force was at a 10, so he must be at a 8 now", whereas he was probably an 11 before, now he's a 9.5. Basically, what was '10' has shifted down. Neat to see some of the trends vindicated in both polls: Daken and Fury - both overrated in the Dec rankings. Cap Marvel - had a huge drop in both polls, due to IF and Cyclops generating red and black better. Way too niche now. Mystique - Personally consider her underrated, but she's best used for AP denial battles. I think Fury's about right where he is. Sure AA is amazing once you have the AP. The problem becomes if you get the yellow early on, it's not that useful and won't do much. Or if you had to fire off one of your abilities earlier, now you don't have the AP to activate the sub-ability. It's one of those wait and hold on abilities, which people will rate lower. The lack of synergy kills him, which is why we see Daken rated higher, despite Daken being significantly weaker as a standalone. Hate to say it, but in half the battles, if I had to choose between BP and Fury, I'd take BP. Quicker, dirtier kill. Surprised Storm (mohawk) climbed as much with a minor health buff, though it could be the X-Force nerf too.
smoq84 wrote: I was thinking about the poll and about how people vote in case of characters they don't have and haven't opportunity to play them yet. Maybe in the next poll kind of blank vote should be possible to prevent guessing for characters we don't use.
Budget Player Cadet wrote: ...3* Thor at the top? Nobody still uses him.
wymtime wrote: First thanks ebolamonkey for the ratings. Taking over for his task is time consuming and hard work. 2nd I think we will look back on this ratings and see we have rated Cyclops, KK, and Hulkbuster way to low, and with the health changes Hood is now too high. I also don't know what the love again is with 3* thor. Is he powerful? yes. Dos he have high health? Yes. Does anyone really use him from 700-1000+ points in PVP? Not really. Th reason why is he is too slow. If you are in simulator and why to run a 3* team run IF, cyclops, LCage. Cyclops does massiv single target damage while IF wittles you down, and cage protects you. I take cyclops over Thor for top 3* and Hulkbuster, Profesor X, 4Thor, Xforce and IW are all very playable 4* characters. I have not gotten enough covers of king pin, Electra, and Starlord to comment on them.
raisinbman wrote: wymtime wrote: First thanks ebolamonkey for the ratings. Taking over for his task is time consuming and hard work. 2nd I think we will look back on this ratings and see we have rated Cyclops, KK, and Hulkbuster way to low, and with the health changes Hood is now too high. I also don't know what the love again is with 3* thor. Is he powerful? yes. Dos he have high health? Yes. Does anyone really use him from 700-1000+ points in PVP? Not really. Th reason why is he is too slow. If you are in simulator and why to run a 3* team run IF, cyclops, LCage. Cyclops does massiv single target damage while IF wittles you down, and cage protects you. I take cyclops over Thor for top 3* and Hulkbuster, Profesor X, 4Thor, Xforce and IW are all very playable 4* characters. I have not gotten enough covers of king pin, Electra, and Starlord to comment on them. agree except for hood/this isn't a poll about PVP viability from 700-1000
Vhailorx wrote: raisinbman wrote: wymtime wrote: First thanks ebolamonkey for the ratings. Taking over for his task is time consuming and hard work. 2nd I think we will look back on this ratings and see we have rated Cyclops, KK, and Hulkbuster way to low, and with the health changes Hood is now too high. I also don't know what the love again is with 3* thor. Is he powerful? yes. Dos he have high health? Yes. Does anyone really use him from 700-1000+ points in PVP? Not really. Th reason why is he is too slow. If you are in simulator and why to run a 3* team run IF, cyclops, LCage. Cyclops does massiv single target damage while IF wittles you down, and cage protects you. I take cyclops over Thor for top 3* and Hulkbuster, Profesor X, 4Thor, Xforce and IW are all very playable 4* characters. I have not gotten enough covers of king pin, Electra, and Starlord to comment on them. agree except for hood/this isn't a poll about PVP viability from 700-1000 Are you arguing that Hood belongs in the top 5? How can you accept a ranking that has Loki more than ten spots away from Hood? they serve the same purpose and work almost as well (yes, Loki lacks a heavy nuke like Hood, but he also has 20% more health and a great board control move in Illusions). Hood might nudge ahead of loki by a tiny bit with his slightly higher defensive value, but there doesn't seem tobe any way to justify a ranking more than ten slots different. I agree that the rankings shouldn't JUST be about PVP from 700-1000. But as others have pointed out, there is no one who is good from 700-1000 in pvp that isn't ALSO pretty good in pve. That's why those characters are the most desirable, they are useful in all occasions. Other characters are pve stars, but lose a little bit in pvp, so they have less utility overall. That is why, in my opinions, the rankings should broadly go like this: 1-10(ish) The top all-around performers, solid in pvp and pve 10-30(ish) the best support characters and single mode (pve) stars 30=50(ish) The low tier 3*s and the very best 2*s 50+ The trash tier 3*s, the weaker 2*s and the 1*s Bagman Yelena