Vhailorx wrote: raisin, You are happy when the Ai uses flame jet improperly. But it's pretty awesome when you use it well. Or when the Ai uses it after a big green cascade. It's very annoying.
raisinbman wrote: Vhailorx wrote: raisin, You are happy when the Ai uses flame jet improperly. But it's pretty awesome when you use it well. Or when the Ai uses it after a big green cascade. It's very annoying. Flame Jet has never been a problem for me, and I've never used torch when not required because he's not worth iso. Even if it was a threat Hulk would krutack him up. How about this: Let's say u could tell a player, a newer player what characters to get - and they could instantly cover them appropriately and get them to max level. 1* 2* 3* 4* doesn't matter, can even be Devil Dino But you can only recommend 10-15 characters. Would Torch REALLY be one of them? It wouldn't for me.
Vhailorx wrote: raisinbman wrote: Vhailorx wrote: raisin, You are happy when the Ai uses flame jet improperly. But it's pretty awesome when you use it well. Or when the Ai uses it after a big green cascade. It's very annoying. Flame Jet has never been a problem for me, and I've never used torch when not required because he's not worth iso. Even if it was a threat Hulk would krutack him up. How about this: Let's say u could tell a player, a newer player what characters to get - and they could instantly cover them appropriately and get them to max level. 1* 2* 3* 4* doesn't matter, can even be Devil Dino But you can only recommend 10-15 characters. Would Torch REALLY be one of them? It wouldn't for me. Of course not. I already said he's not top tier. That wasn't the debate. I just don't think he's bad, and I think 2/3 of his abilities are pretty good. You seem to disagree.
dreadlington wrote: Reading the amusing descriptions of the character's placing on the list was a lot of people's favourite thing about these forums. I've been logging in every day to read them and two weeks later we still only have two characters done. I appreciate your time on this but perhaps next time someone else can be in charge of writing it up. Any takers?
Lerysh wrote: I could grant that Human Torch is ever so slightly under rated. He's better than Falcon for sure and GSBW maybe. Not better than Grocket tho, or any of the top 25. The top top 2*s clearly benefited from the new format. As good as OBW is, I dunno that I classify her as a top 20 character. Although I do use her every damn day so who can say I guess. My ranking system goes "best 3/4*s, Best 2*s, Terrible 3*s, OKish 2*s, the rest". Doesn't leave anywhere on the list for Star Lord to go, but still.
Ebolamonkey84 wrote: dreadlington wrote: Reading the amusing descriptions of the character's placing on the list was a lot of people's favourite thing about these forums. I've been logging in every day to read them and two weeks later we still only have two characters done. I appreciate your time on this but perhaps next time someone else can be in charge of writing it up. Any takers? Sorry my full time job, three year old child, and a death in the family have taken precedence. I will try to readjust my priorities.
Ebolamonkey84 wrote: Part of the issue is getting through the slog of the lower ranked people and finding something to write about them. I'm going to start just writing up specific characters instead of trying to run through them in order, and I've asked a few people to help out, so expect them to pick up the pace a little. Wasn't in the greatest mood when I read dreadlington's post, so I may have been a little harsh.
Kenyzdor wrote: @dreadlington From my point of view it is a privilege for others to have these rankings prepared and it is just a matter of waiting for the write ups. From what @Ebolamonkey84 wrote so far on the lowest scored characters, he shows a lot of insight into the game and in my opinion all future write ups will most likely benefit a lot of new and old players. I'd rather have someone with insight write these than someone else. We should all not forget @Ebolamonkey84 created the survey, made it public for all of us to vote, collected the data and presented it and now he does a proper write up on each and every of the 69 characters. So waiting for this last bit should be the least we could do. I check these forums every day to see if there's a new chapter and I am happy when there is one. I don't get disappointed if there isn't.@Ebolamonkey84 Keep up the good work!@Alltheimpatientones Get some tact or do your own write up.
Unreallystic wrote: Ebolamonkey84 wrote: Part of the issue is getting through the slog of the lower ranked people and finding something to write about them. I'm going to start just writing up specific characters instead of trying to run through them in order, and I've asked a few people to help out, so expect them to pick up the pace a little. Wasn't in the greatest mood when I read dreadlington's post, so I may have been a little harsh. Well it might be 'cheating', but for characters without real changes, it might be easiest to just grab from the previous effort, give credit, and then tag any metagame changes since then. Don't re-invent the wheel for characters no one more than 60 days in will care about (I was so mad at my wife for having a lvl 80 something Bagman before level adjustment...to be so young...) Any actual energy should go towards mover and shakers - new characters, big drops (like Sentry) or raises, characters who's powers have changed like Rags, etc. In the future, I'd possible even ask people in the respective threads to do a write up. Tone would change, but an undertaking this large shouldn't fall on one or two guys. - Unreall
Unreallystic wrote: Lerysh wrote: I could grant that Human Torch is ever so slightly under rated. He's better than Falcon for sure and GSBW maybe. Not better than Grocket tho, or any of the top 25. The top top 2*s clearly benefited from the new format. As good as OBW is, I dunno that I classify her as a top 20 character. Although I do use her every damn day so who can say I guess. My ranking system goes "best 3/4*s, Best 2*s, Terrible 3*s, OKish 2*s, the rest". Doesn't leave anywhere on the list for Star Lord to go, but still. I can't say he's better than GSBW or Falcon. I'd MUCH rather have them than HT. In a vaccum yeah 1v1 HT will beat both, but factoring in what they bring to the team...I'll take GSBW purple and Green against HT and I'll take Falcon's yellow against HT red...all with the right team in place. - Unreall
dreadlington wrote: Why are you taking such offence at me suggesting someone with more time do it next time? I didn't criticise you in any way but you're choosing to take it badly. My sympathies for the death in the family, that's always rough. Wasn't attacking you!