Puertorico wrote: Another Nerf plea??? If u want to take down a 4* use a 4*. Otherwise stick to playing the 3* teams u can beat. HB is not overpowered and doesnt need a Nerf. Maybe u had a bad board or AI had a ridiculous cascade, it happens to the best of us from time to time. But asking d3 to Nerf a character because u don't have it and can't beat us without it is a little selfish. Eventually another 4* will come and be better than HB. So fight for that character or use kp who can drain his ap, but don't beg for another Nerf the forums don't need another 10 rage quitting threads
Puertorico wrote: wymtime wrote: Puertorico wrote: Another Nerf plea??? If u want to take down a 4* use a 4*. Otherwise stick to playing the 3* teams u can beat. HB is not overpowered and doesnt need a Nerf. Maybe u had a bad board or AI had a ridiculous cascade, it happens to the best of us from time to time. But asking d3 to Nerf a character because u don't have it and can't beat us without it is a little selfish. Eventually another 4* will come and be better than HB. So fight for that character or use kp who can drain his ap, but don't beg for another Nerf the forums don't need another 10 rage quitting threads Also telling him to just fight 3* because he is not buying 4* covers and telling him to use KP is silly. The reality is with 3* buffs you can take down a lot of characters. There is less room for error especially when HB has a buff, and with the new point system in PVP comming for th next season it might be easier to hit 1000. This might help people get more 4* covers, but it won't change the fact that HB red and black are 2 of the best combos in the game. His is extremely powerful and has significant health so he is a great scare crow on defense. I imagine you spent real money on HB if you are as upset with the OP, but I would ask you this would you have spent that money on HB if he was not as good as he is? If at level 5 black he only generated 5AP? If th answer is no then you at proving that the OP is right and HB is th new broken character and will centrally get hit with the Nerf Bat. You don't need HB to take down HB. How is telling him to use kp silly? Kp has 15k+ health yellow at 5 does 10k+ damage purple at 5 will drain HB red ap and gain yellow ap. I use kp and elektra a lot I don't rely on one character for me to win a match. So let me restate I don't think HB should be nerfed. I think he is manageable to beat with buffed 3*. He reason telling him to use KP instead is KP is 4*. Not everyone pays real money to collect all the characters and 4* are a lot harder to collect if you are not willing to spend real $$. You are basicly telling him to pony up cash to defete HB. This is a freemium game and you are basicly saying drop $100 and get your own. Yes I did spend real money on HB I maxed him the day he was released in packs the same way I did with kp dp kk etc etc etc. Is kp op? The next 4* could be worse than iw and I will still max that character. I don't max characters because I think they are strong I max characters because that's the point of the game. Collect covers put ISO in to those characters. What's the point of playing if you don't intend to collect and max all characters? A wise man once told me, "you can't be the best Pokemon trainer if you don't catch 'em all."
wymtime wrote: Puertorico wrote: Another Nerf plea??? If u want to take down a 4* use a 4*. Otherwise stick to playing the 3* teams u can beat. HB is not overpowered and doesnt need a Nerf. Maybe u had a bad board or AI had a ridiculous cascade, it happens to the best of us from time to time. But asking d3 to Nerf a character because u don't have it and can't beat us without it is a little selfish. Eventually another 4* will come and be better than HB. So fight for that character or use kp who can drain his ap, but don't beg for another Nerf the forums don't need another 10 rage quitting threads Also telling him to just fight 3* because he is not buying 4* covers and telling him to use KP is silly. The reality is with 3* buffs you can take down a lot of characters. There is less room for error especially when HB has a buff, and with the new point system in PVP comming for th next season it might be easier to hit 1000. This might help people get more 4* covers, but it won't change the fact that HB red and black are 2 of the best combos in the game. His is extremely powerful and has significant health so he is a great scare crow on defense. I imagine you spent real money on HB if you are as upset with the OP, but I would ask you this would you have spent that money on HB if he was not as good as he is? If at level 5 black he only generated 5AP? If th answer is no then you at proving that the OP is right and HB is th new broken character and will centrally get hit with the Nerf Bat.
You don't need HB to take down HB. How is telling him to use kp silly? Kp has 15k+ health yellow at 5 does 10k+ damage purple at 5 will drain HB red ap and gain yellow ap. I use kp and elektra a lot I don't rely on one character for me to win a match.
Yes I did spend real money on HB I maxed him the day he was released in packs the same way I did with kp dp kk etc etc etc. Is kp op? The next 4* could be worse than iw and I will still max that character. I don't max characters because I think they are strong I max characters because that's the point of the game. Collect covers put ISO in to those characters. What's the point of playing if you don't intend to collect and max all characters? A wise man once told me, "you can't be the best Pokemon trainer if you don't catch 'em all."
wymtime wrote: Puertorico wrote: wymtime wrote: Puertorico wrote: Another Nerf plea??? If u want to take down a 4* use a 4*. Otherwise stick to playing the 3* teams u can beat. HB is not overpowered and doesnt need a Nerf. Maybe u had a bad board or AI had a ridiculous cascade, it happens to the best of us from time to time. But asking d3 to Nerf a character because u don't have it and can't beat us without it is a little selfish. Eventually another 4* will come and be better than HB. So fight for that character or use kp who can drain his ap, but don't beg for another Nerf the forums don't need another 10 rage quitting threads Also telling him to just fight 3* because he is not buying 4* covers and telling him to use KP is silly. The reality is with 3* buffs you can take down a lot of characters. There is less room for error especially when HB has a buff, and with the new point system in PVP comming for th next season it might be easier to hit 1000. This might help people get more 4* covers, but it won't change the fact that HB red and black are 2 of the best combos in the game. His is extremely powerful and has significant health so he is a great scare crow on defense. I imagine you spent real money on HB if you are as upset with the OP, but I would ask you this would you have spent that money on HB if he was not as good as he is? If at level 5 black he only generated 5AP? If th answer is no then you at proving that the OP is right and HB is th new broken character and will centrally get hit with the Nerf Bat. You don't need HB to take down HB. How is telling him to use kp silly? Kp has 15k+ health yellow at 5 does 10k+ damage purple at 5 will drain HB red ap and gain yellow ap. I use kp and elektra a lot I don't rely on one character for me to win a match. So let me restate I don't think HB should be nerfed. I think he is manageable to beat with buffed 3*. He reason telling him to use KP instead is KP is 4*. Not everyone pays real money to collect all the characters and 4* are a lot harder to collect if you are not willing to spend real $$. You are basicly telling him to pony up cash to defete HB. This is a freemium game and you are basicly saying drop $100 and get your own. Yes I did spend real money on HB I maxed him the day he was released in packs the same way I did with kp dp kk etc etc etc. Is kp op? The next 4* could be worse than iw and I will still max that character. I don't max characters because I think they are strong I max characters because that's the point of the game. Collect covers put ISO in to those characters. What's the point of playing if you don't intend to collect and max all characters? A wise man once told me, "you can't be the best Pokemon trainer if you don't catch 'em all." A wiser man told me to Be the Best you have to beat the Best. If you look at some of the other points I am making when I compare HB to other powers and characters who got nerfed his powers match them pre Nerf. Look at sergical strike and Xforce. SS was OP becuase it not only could do massive damage but AP drain and AP generation. The Devs felt Xforce was OP becuase with the number of green generators the damage and board shake it did was OP( I do not agree, but that is how I see it from there eyes especially after KK came out). The Devs felt 4Thor was OP with her blue to red combo. The charge tiles were too many and let her fire her red not once but potentially twice in quick succession. Do I agree with that Nerf not so much. HB has 2 Red accelerators and once he gets going does massive damage and can one shot all characters but Devil Dino. You throw into the fact he can then fire black and do another 6k+ damage with his red again fits into being OP by the Dev's standards. Just remember becuase you spend a lot of money on the game does not mean that is the norm. there are many ways to play, but telling the OP you should become PTW by getting 4* covers is poor. HB fits into the OP state and I said that from the beginning. He will eventually get the Nerf bat becuase that is what the game does. I don't agree which is why I don't pay for the game. So thank you for spending your real $$ on the game you are making the game survive longer so I can play. Next time just try and look at things from the OP point of view or a FTP point of view.
Malcrof wrote: TheOncomingStorm wrote: simonsez wrote: traedoril wrote: I hate to request a character nerf but Hulkbuster is way Overpowered. I starved the AI of all red only to have a **** cascade that led to the ai getting both red and black ap. Newsflash: if you are facing any reasonably constructed team, a cascade that generates 9+ red, 11+ black, and god-knows-what-else, is going to kick your **** hard. Should we go ahead and nerf EVERYBODY?? I'll go further. I think cascades are the single greatest cause of player losses in PVP. Also the cause of some of the fastest wins while you play. Cascades go both ways
TheOncomingStorm wrote: simonsez wrote: traedoril wrote: I hate to request a character nerf but Hulkbuster is way Overpowered. I starved the AI of all red only to have a **** cascade that led to the ai getting both red and black ap. Newsflash: if you are facing any reasonably constructed team, a cascade that generates 9+ red, 11+ black, and god-knows-what-else, is going to kick your **** hard. Should we go ahead and nerf EVERYBODY?? I'll go further. I think cascades are the single greatest cause of player losses in PVP.
simonsez wrote: traedoril wrote: I hate to request a character nerf but Hulkbuster is way Overpowered. I starved the AI of all red only to have a **** cascade that led to the ai getting both red and black ap. Newsflash: if you are facing any reasonably constructed team, a cascade that generates 9+ red, 11+ black, and god-knows-what-else, is going to kick your **** hard. Should we go ahead and nerf EVERYBODY??
traedoril wrote: I hate to request a character nerf but Hulkbuster is way Overpowered. I starved the AI of all red only to have a **** cascade that led to the ai getting both red and black ap.
wymtime wrote: Puertorico wrote: Another Nerf plea??? If u want to take down a 4* use a 4*. Otherwise stick to playing the 3* teams u can beat. HB is not overpowered and doesnt need a Nerf. Maybe u had a bad board or AI had a ridiculous cascade, it happens to the best of us from time to time. But asking d3 to Nerf a character because u don't have it and can't beat us without it is a little selfish. Eventually another 4* will come and be better than HB. So fight for that character or use kp who can drain his ap, but don't beg for another Nerf the forums don't need another 10 rage quitting threads I don't think they should Nerf HB, but the OP has a point. HB black at 5 covers for 11 black you get 2 strike tiles that total 700 and 9 red AP that will do almost 6K damage. 4Thor got merged becuase she spit out too many charge tiles which allowed smite to kill everyone, and hen reload quickly. HB can do the same thing for a small cost of 1500 health. If anything I though 4Thors blue had more balance in the fact that you each team could collect the charge tiles. Also telling him to just fight 3* because he is not buying 4* covers and telling him to use KP is silly. The reality is with 3* buffs you can take down a lot of characters. There is less room for error especially when HB has a buff, and with the new point system in PVP comming for th next season it might be easier to hit 1000. This might help people get more 4* covers, but it won't change the fact that HB red and black are 2 of the best combos in the game. His is extremely powerful and has significant health so he is a great scare crow on defense. I imagine you spent real money on HB if you are as upset with the OP, but I would ask you this would you have spent that money on HB if he was not as good as he is? If at level 5 black he only generated 5AP? If th answer is no then you at proving that the OP is right and HB is th new broken character and will centrally get hit with the Nerf Bat.
zeddicus wrote: No more nerfing. If character so powerful, increase number tiles required for ability. If it requires 11 tiles increase to 18 or 20. No more nerfing. Four stars are weaker then most three stars. Some three stars weaker than two. Why have different stars if this is case. Four stars should be strongest, then three, then two, then one. If characters are to overpowering adjust number of tiles. Make harder to use that ability, not make ability not worth using. My opinion, I could be wrong.
zeddicus wrote: Nope. Increasing cost is strategic, nerfing is downgrading.