change in boosts cost

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This change is awful, but just imagine how bad it will be to the new players. Players that don't have high amount of ISO or HP, they are basically told to either pay or don't even bother.


Also, my cost for +3 all boosts just went from 50 HP up to 100 HP.....**** me

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I'm sure it would do no good to open a ticket asking for my 400hp I spent before I realized the change so I think I'm just done with this game unless they change it back..whatever.

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Blackflag wrote:

I'm sure it would do no good to open a ticket asking for my 400hp I spent before I realized the change so I think I'm just done with this game unless they change it back..whatever.

Open a ticket. You have nothing to lose.

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Phantron wrote:

People would be crying about this change even if it was communicated ahead of time.

Sure. But that would be crying over the content of the change.

Not the method of delivery and all attached demolition of TRUST in the relation.

If the station where you buy gas posts with big letters that E98 will cost twice, Diesel will not be delivered and the burgers will be made of pork you might be whining or seek alternatives. But you might decide the changes are irrelevant, or you can swallow them as it's still more convenient than something else. But if you face the changes only at the cash register after filled up?

Phantron wrote:

Now that you can actually see everyone's teams it is rather obvious that most people at top have rather ordinary looking rosters so those high ratings are generally propped up with a combination of high playing time and boosts (and the former tends to get you more of the latter anyway).

That show roster thing is actually a thing I like, a real improvement in the pack.

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abuelo wrote:

Phantron wrote:

People would be crying about this change even if it was communicated ahead of time. Now that you can actually see everyone's teams it is rather obvious that most people at top have rather ordinary looking rosters so those high ratings are generally propped up with a combination of high playing time and boosts (and the former tends to get you more of the latter anyway).

Well..aye, because the change sucks. The idea of it not being communicated ahead of time just makes it seem sneaky and underhanded to add to the sucks. Saying 'well, you'd have all complained anyway' is a bit strange!

Could also be called 'player feedback' too, depending on your outlook.

While the issue certainly can be communicated better I think the outrage would still be mostly the same. See Raganrok nerf for example.

I do think they're responsible for people buying +3 AP thinking it's still iso 8s. I know I go through a ton of them every day and if I didn't check the forum first, there's a good chance I wouldn't notice it. If possible, I'd simply refund all +3 AP boosts purchased after the patch went live and then put the message prominently so that people won't buy it thinking it's still iso 8s.

mags1587

Okay, the Patch Notes were updated:

Boosts will now cost Hero Points, instead of Iso-8

... but I'm still confused. I'm seeing that some boosts now cost Hero Points, but others still cost ISO-8. I realize that you guys are probably swamped right now, but can we get a clarification? Will the boosts that cost ISO-8 now be switching over to HP, too?

quadiak

pasa_ wrote:

quadiak wrote:

The game has continually degraded with every update in the favor of the developers bottom line for hard cash earning. It seems they must not be meeting the financial forecasts they may have used to scam investors into helping support the initial build. I predict bankruptcy in the near future.

Going this route it is a safe bet. Alienating the hardcore player base with a long series of below-the-belts across the visible spectrum and some invisible parts?

The business basics I learnt are pretty simple. You can build on one of:

- customer satisfaction
- customer lock in
- cheat/fraud/scam

Each require its own strategy and have a promise for success. While taking non of those leaves only the short term "take the money and run"/strip mining schema. Somewhere in my first posts I wrote how glad I am the devs seem to understand and not walking the latter. It proved to be just blind hope.

quadiak wrote:

It was fun while it lasted but I doubt it will ever get past the preview stage. This was the last straw for me personally. I am thankful however that I never invested one cent of my own hard cash.

I'm fairly certain Loki has taken over the developers brains.

More likely the excel-sheet guys. As usual. Who are happy to run whatever weird experiment, and have no clue that life is NOT a game where you can reload the previous state and try something else. Yep, you can measure the loss of users. You can even undo the changes leading to that. But it will not undo the effect. Those who lost faith will not come back, and word spreads like wildfire.

A month ago I was posting a recommended review on steam and even fenced with some guys with differing opinion. I just posted a strict "Not recommended" one. Which if ever surfaces will likely count with the "109 hrs last two weeks / 369 hrs on record" stats attached.

When real money is at stake people tend to look at some kind of reviews, and I'm positive with moves like we had in last week they will go south en masse.

100% agreed they would have done much better to allow more easily obtainable covers, HP and ISO8 through winning matches, the ones with more money than brains would have automatically spent more just to try and keep up. A prime example is the thor/wolverine issues. There were technically no issues with the covers the way they were. the issues were that it is to difficult(expensive) to buff our own 3 and 4 star covers.

I couldn't even guess what it would cost to purchase enough ISO8 to increase wolverine patch to full 141 capacity, $1500.00 maybe. Stupid. Comic books would be a much better investment(just don't touch them)

Another point is the lack of history and stats available for previous match ups and leaderboards. Can you imagine if Poker stars, for example, attempted to take money without having the data to back it up? If D3P wants to play for big bucks they better step up and start a real game, where people can win hard cash as well.

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Wait, where can you see other people's rosters ???

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This is horrible...well there goes my rank in Thick as Thieves. Thanks you greedy jerks!

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Lol @ all the people posting that they accidentally bought boosts with HP. Reposting from another thread:

The problem is they introduce so many game-altering changes without notifying the playerbase. How do you expect your game to grow or even survive if there is 0 trust and your revenues are based off of player ignorance?

Counting on lack of / misinformation to make money - what a fantastic business model~

Hulk11

gobstopper wrote:

Lol @ all the people posting that they accidentally bought boosts with HP. Reposting from another thread:

The problem is they introduce so many game-altering changes without notifying the playerbase. How do you expect your game to grow or even survive if there is 0 trust and your revenues are based off of player ignorance?

Counting on lack of / misinformation to make money - what a fantastic business model~

Too true. I'm out. They got $8 from me.

For any PC players into MMO's and superheroes, other than Marvel Heroes (sorta weak MMO). I'd try out DC universe online. The game has been out for a couple years now, and is pretty solid.

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This game just became pay 2 win.

The one who pays for the +3 stockpile will always win.

Period.

Bring back the old value.

Unknown

On a scale of 1 to 10, the Rag anger was at an 8 or 9...They took anger to another level with this **** move...I have no desire to play...Did 3 missions, played PVP twice, and even though I rarely use boosts in PvP, I had to live off them in PvE as the missions are so hard...

Oh well, can't get into the game anymore...Sucks, but time to move on, Any suggestions for a good F2P or cheap to play game, PM me please...

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Woah I just found another stealth change.
(sorry IceIX i know you didnt intend the boost one to be stealth-ed but it was )
And I'll admit I even suggested it. PVP is now win or loss. There is no longer 3 strikes till your out.
-edit- Cascade of doom right after I used Patch did me in

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MTGOFerret wrote:

Woah I just found another stealth change.
(sorry IceIX i know you didnt intend the boost one to be stealth-ed but it was )
And I'll admit I even suggested it. PVP is now win or loss. There is no longer 3 strikes till your out.

I'm curious if there's going to be rage over that, even though I sure remember seeing a lot of backing over that.

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MTGOFerret wrote:

Woah I just found another stealth change.
(sorry IceIX i know you didnt intend the boost one to be stealth-ed but it was )
And I'll admit I even suggested it. PVP is now win or loss. There is no longer 3 strikes till your out.
-edit- Cascade of doom right after I used Patch did me in

Do you know if you get points from their loss?

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Koolbiird wrote:

MTGOFerret wrote:

Woah I just found another stealth change.
(sorry IceIX i know you didnt intend the boost one to be stealth-ed but it was )
And I'll admit I even suggested it. PVP is now win or loss. There is no longer 3 strikes till your out.
-edit- Cascade of doom right after I used Patch did me in

Do you know if you get points from their loss?

Yeah i lost 13 points so i assume that gained at least that much.

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Koolbiird wrote:

MTGOFerret wrote:

Woah I just found another stealth change.
(sorry IceIX i know you didnt intend the boost one to be stealth-ed but it was )
And I'll admit I even suggested it. PVP is now win or loss. There is no longer 3 strikes till your out.
-edit- Cascade of doom right after I used Patch did me in

Do you know if you get points from their loss?

I'm almost certain you do, I recieved 8 points from someone and there was no x/0/0 indicator on their name

Hulk11

WilliamK99 wrote:

On a scale of 1 to 10, the Rag anger was at an 8 or 9...They took anger to another level with this **** move...I have no desire to play...Did 3 missions, played PVP twice, and even though I rarely use boosts in PvP, I had to live off them in PvE as the missions are so hard...

Oh well, can't get into the game anymore...Sucks, but time to move on, Any suggestions for a good F2P or cheap to play game, PM me please...

I definitely try out DC universe or if you like Marvel play Marvel Heroes. There's even a browser Avengers assemble game. Whichever you prefer. I found these games and this one at the Marvel site. There's quite a few Marvel games including this one listed. I don't have an android device so I can't comment on the other few they have available. I honestly gave this one a try just like the others, and even though this lasted a little longer, not long enough lol.

IceIX

MTGOFerret wrote:

Woah I just found another stealth change.
(sorry IceIX i know you didnt intend the boost one to be stealth-ed but it was )

Nope, you're right. It wasn't *intended* to be that way but the way it rolled out, it was. Good or bad, I'd prefer people call it like it is (was?)