Upcoming Test: Powered-Up Characters in Versus

fmftint

Couple things
1 I guess we just plain aren't getting a Cyclops PvP
2 please don't do this mid season, this can't wait NINE DAYS

fmftint

This is on the level of shield cool down, wait till after the season

slidecage

papa07 wrote:

slidecage wrote:

scottee wrote:

I like this idea. I'm glad it'll bring variety to PVP and reward having a deeper roster.

And I think it's no problem doing this during a season. Everyone's playing by the same rules. Some just don't like having to adjust to new things.

it should never taken place during a season. The last testing was done between seasons but no they want to screw people over.

About it being even , no it screws over people who dont have a deep roaster. I was on the verge of gettiing 4000 pts this season and if this plays how i think its going to play I use a main 2 to 3 man team to get my points and due to small roaster I will miss the 4000 pts due to the change. This will mean harder 3 stars so if you hitting the 3 star wall your going to be slamming into that 3 star wall a lot faster now since 3 stars are going to be pushed up to 4 star levels.

Thank you D3 for killing the fun for me in PVP and the change that you are working on and will be putting into place in PVE

I do want to thank D3 for making this change you have now offically made me close my wallet to this game forever.

If you have opened your wallet to D3 in the past, you should have at a bare minimum a level 94 roster.

10 pack is at 4000, there are 10 events (plus simulator). That is an average of 400 per event, which is quite easily done with a 2 star roster. With that same 2 star roster, 600 to 800 points in simulator is also easily done, which would lower the average to the 320 to 340 range per event. These changes should have little to no impact on your PvP scores at those levels.

If you don't get to 4000, that would be on you - not on this change.

Nope i dont have a level 94 team cause i found the amount of ISO after level 80 was insane, and using a 2 to 4 man team was enough to get me tons of covers so i was pouring the ISO into 3 stars and not pushing up my 2 stars anymore. In about another month or two i should had enough ISO and Covers to find out a very nice set of 3 to 5 3 stars push around 125.

i get around 400 pts per event and then attacked down to around 300 to 350 so pushing around that per event. Saying if you dont have the pumped up people your going to be screwed. Last 2 events hit 375 after the attacks.

Just saying they should of done it OFF SEASON.

scottee

Also to those complaining about it being midseason, the two events between seasons often have at least one of the events, if not both, that are not centered around a single featured character. If they run Balance of Power or Combined Arms, that only leaves 1 event for testing. And it's possible that both are not singularly featured events.

scottee

slidecage wrote:

Nope i dont have a level 94 team cause i found the amount of ISO after level 80 was insane, and using a 2 to 4 man team was enough to get me tons of covers so i was pouring the ISO into 3 stars and not pushing up my 2 stars anymore. In about another month or two i should had enough ISO and Covers to find out a very nice set of 3 to 5 3 stars push around 125.

i get around 400 pts per event and then attacked down to around 300 to 350 so pushing around that per event. Saying if you dont have the pumped up people your going to be screwed. Last 2 events hit 375 after the attacks.

Just saying they should of done it OFF SEASON.

If you want to transition to 3* as fast as possible, you should really finish maxing your 2*s. I know it seems faster right now to skip them, but you're gimping yourself.

slidecage

scottee wrote:

slidecage wrote:

Nope i dont have a level 94 team cause i found the amount of ISO after level 80 was insane, and using a 2 to 4 man team was enough to get me tons of covers so i was pouring the ISO into 3 stars and not pushing up my 2 stars anymore. In about another month or two i should had enough ISO and Covers to find out a very nice set of 3 to 5 3 stars push around 125.

i get around 400 pts per event and then attacked down to around 300 to 350 so pushing around that per event. Saying if you dont have the pumped up people your going to be screwed. Last 2 events hit 375 after the attacks.

Just saying they should of done it OFF SEASON.

If you want to transition to 3* as fast as possible, you should really finish maxing your 2*s. I know it seems faster right now to skip them, but you're gimping yourself.

Level 80 2 star wolv. black, thor, ares and mag have work wonders for me and was good enough being my 2 star team. (mostly used wolv and thor with person or Thor with ares and they always scored me major pts.

Just saying they needed to either wait till MID SEASONS or heres something Wait till the start of the next season.

Unknown

Nope i dont have a level 94 team cause i found the amount of ISO after level 80 was insane, and using a 2 to 4 man team was enough to get me tons of covers so i was pouring the ISO into 3 stars and not pushing up my 2 stars anymore. In about another month or two i should had enough ISO and Covers to find out a very nice set of 3 to 5 3 stars push around 125.

i get around 400 pts per event and then attacked down to around 300 to 350 so pushing around that per event. Saying if you dont have the pumped up people your going to be screwed. Last 2 events hit 375 after the attacks.

Just saying they should of done it OFF SEASON.

You're going to be transitioning a very long time. Max out a few 2 s.

Unknown

scottee wrote:

Also to those complaining about it being midseason, the two events between seasons often have at least one of the events, if not both, that are not centered around a single featured character. If they run Balance of Power or Combined Arms, that only leaves 1 event for testing. And it's possible that both are not singularly featured events.

I agree and people that are burned out and need a break use the offseason. So if they want some good data that is representative of all players, then during season is the way to go.

slidecage

corrupti0N wrote:

Nope i dont have a level 94 team cause i found the amount of ISO after level 80 was insane, and using a 2 to 4 man team was enough to get me tons of covers so i was pouring the ISO into 3 stars and not pushing up my 2 stars anymore. In about another month or two i should had enough ISO and Covers to find out a very nice set of 3 to 5 3 stars push around 125.

i get around 400 pts per event and then attacked down to around 300 to 350 so pushing around that per event. Saying if you dont have the pumped up people your going to be screwed. Last 2 events hit 375 after the attacks.

Just saying they should of done it OFF SEASON.

You're going to be transitioning a very long time. Max out a few 2 s.

why is that? I mean in around another 20k to 30 ISO (What would been about a month or so) i would had enough ISO to push 3 3 stars to level 130. i thnk 3 to 5 Level 3 stars from 130 to 140 would be better then 3-6 2 stars at 94.

JamieMadrox

Merged "Powered-Up Characters in Versus D3 should of waited" topic with this one.

Andy9009

This is a terrible idea. We don't live in an idealistic world where people would just add diversity just because designers wish to see more. People will optimize in order to win in competitive events. That means bringing the best team. The reason that you don't see variety is the power differential between star levels.

We've see how the game is simply broken when the characters are scaled beyond normal max. Why are you going to inflict that further? More buff means longer matches.

Currently the 270 wall of Xforce and 4Thor are bad enough so in some events we have to play against the buffed Xforce/4Thor. That's just nuts.

So you'll inflict pain on your players yet again and then an apology in the form of some additional tokens.

Kind of sad repeat of history...

dr tinykittylove

slidecage wrote:

corrupti0N wrote:

You're going to be transitioning a very long time. Max out a few 2 s.

why is that? I mean in around another 20k to 30 ISO (What would been about a month or so) i would had enough ISO to push 3 3 stars to level 130. i thnk 3 to 5 Level 3 stars from 130 to 140 would be better then 3-6 2 stars at 94.

You keep saying you have trouble with pvp, pve and daily deadpool.
Max out those core 2*s you use most. I've used only 2* on daily deadpool for almost everything and have never come close to losing. More health and more damage makes a difference.

Get hit a lot in pvp? That's because your underlevelled 2*s scream hit me! to everyone and their uncle.

Even when you have your 3*s up and running, you'll still get a lot of use from your 2*s, so all you're doing is deliberately making your own transition harder.

With a good team to work with, it's so much easier to earn iso, especially with the daily.

puppychow

Demiurge_Miles wrote:

This group of Powered-Up characters will include:
2 x 4-Star characters who will scale up to a level range of 75 to 330
5 x 3-Star characters who will scale up to a level range of 45 to 280
2 x 2-Star characters who will scale up to a level range of 20 to 170
2 x 1-Star characters who will scale up to a level range of 5 to 100

I can't wait to use my boosted Juggernaut and Venom.

slidecage

dr tinykittylove wrote:

slidecage wrote:

corrupti0N wrote:

You're going to be transitioning a very long time. Max out a few 2 s.

why is that? I mean in around another 20k to 30 ISO (What would been about a month or so) i would had enough ISO to push 3 3 stars to level 130. i thnk 3 to 5 Level 3 stars from 130 to 140 would be better then 3-6 2 stars at 94.

You keep saying you have trouble with pvp, pve and daily deadpool.
Max out those core 2*s you use most. I've used only 2* on daily deadpool for almost everything and have never come close to losing. More health and more damage makes a difference.

Get hit a lot in pvp? That's because your underlevelled 2*s scream hit me! to everyone and their uncle.

Even when you have your 3*s up and running, you'll still get a lot of use from your 2*s, so all you're doing is deliberately making your own transition harder.

With a good team to work with, it's so much easier to earn iso, especially with the daily.

i really dont have any trouble with PVE i can take top 25 if i want to each time (i slowed way down and top 100 is good enough for me now.

The Last 2 months i have had no problem in getting HP and covers in PVP i have fetched 1 to 2 covers per pvp (this is the main reason im moving to 3 star instead of pumping up 2)

i gave up playing daily long ago (besides the tacos)

puppychow

While I appreciate the game developers willingness to think outside the box to make the pvp more playable to more of the player base, I am rather critical of the timing of this so called "experiment." My reasoning is simple: if the whales who spent tons of hp on shields/boosts lose their top standings as a result of these changes (b/c the featured/xf/goddess lineup is no longer uber), then guess what? They won't be back next season. And D3's bottom line will take a hit as a result. Very risky, in my view, and totally unnecessary. What's the harm in doing this experiment AFTER the season? My fear is that D3's number crunchers took a look at the participation rate of the mpq player base once the character chances were announced, and saw the rate fall off a cliff; thus, something had to be done ASAP to encourage the remaining players to continue playing the season out. This is mere speculation on my part, but there MUST be a reason for the immediacy of making this change in pvp.

Unknown

dr tinykittylove wrote:

slidecage wrote:

corrupti0N wrote:

You're going to be transitioning a very long time. Max out a few 2 s.

why is that? I mean in around another 20k to 30 ISO (What would been about a month or so) i would had enough ISO to push 3 3 stars to level 130. i thnk 3 to 5 Level 3 stars from 130 to 140 would be better then 3-6 2 stars at 94.

You keep saying you have trouble with pvp, pve and daily deadpool.
Max out those core 2*s you use most. I've used only 2* on daily deadpool for almost everything and have never come close to losing. More health and more damage makes a difference.

Get hit a lot in pvp? That's because your underlevelled 2*s scream hit me! to everyone and their uncle.

Even when you have your 3*s up and running, you'll still get a lot of use from your 2*s, so all you're doing is deliberately making your own transition harder.

With a good team to work with, it's so much easier to earn iso, especially with the daily.

There is a list of 2*s that you will use forever. Especially now that DDQ is a thing. You can use them in the softer PvE nodes to save health packs, use them in PvE combos, and use them in DDQ. There is absolute logic to having at LEAST 3 level 94 2*s on your roster, if not more. I have 7 and I don't think I will sell any of them any time soon. Ares, OBW, Storm, Hawkeye, MNM, Ms. Marvel, and Thor (who has saved my bacon in the current PvE, since my 3* Storm is terrible). I could see justifications for Wolverine, Daken, or Jonny Storm, I just don't have them. Bottom line is a solid 94 platform is how you build your 166s.

fmftint

puppychow wrote:

While I appreciate the game developers willingness to think outside the box to make the pvp more playable to more of the player base, I am rather critical of the timing of this so called "experiment." My reasoning is simple: if the whales who spent tons of hp on shields/boosts lose their top standings as a result of these changes (b/c the featured/xf/goddess lineup is no longer uber), then guess what? They won't be back next season. And D3's bottom line will take a hit as a result. Very risky, in my view, and totally unnecessary. What's the harm in doing this experiment AFTER the season? My fear is that D3's number crunchers took a look at the participation rate of the mpq player base once the character chances were announced, and saw the rate fall off a cliff; thus, something had to be done ASAP to encourage the remaining players to continue playing the season out. This is mere speculation on my part, but there MUST be a reason for the immediacy of making this change in pvp.

It won't affect them much at all, most of those players also have all 3*s maxed as well. they will simply switch to the most powerful pair available

Unknown

slidecage wrote:

i gave up playing daily long ago (besides the tacos)

This statement makes me very sad. U, why you no ? Also you are missing out on some good ISO.

slidecage

Lerysh wrote:

slidecage wrote:

i gave up playing daily long ago (besides the tacos)

This statement makes me very sad. U, why you no ? Also you are missing out on some good ISO.

forgot the iso doing that as well. everything besides the 3 star cover thing

dr tinykittylove

Lerysh wrote:

slidecage wrote:

i gave up playing daily long ago (besides the tacos)

This statement makes me very sad. U, why you no ? Also you are missing out on some good ISO.

i think it's not worth our time discussing this anymore. They think an easily acquired extra 2k iso and a 3* cover daily isn't worth the bother of playing an extra 5 minutes, I 'm not sure what they think is worth the bother of playing at all.