Lerysh wrote: No. Strike Tile != Attack Tile. Attack Tiles are fists, what Storm and Punisher and now Iron Fist make with their No fists on board, free green fist for Iron Fist. Fist.
Nivrax wrote: GW - 11 turns into 6 | IF - 5 turns into 9 (that's over triple more efficient)
CrookedKnight wrote: Feel free to tell me I'm being dumb here, but if you're not planning to run Iron Fist with X-Force, would it be better to go 4/5/4 than 3/5/5? You lose 150 damage per turn from the attack tile but you gain 88-176 in strike tiles, which more than makes up the difference even when you use the lesser version (because it adds 88 to match damage and an additional 88 to the attack tile damage, a total boost of 176 per turn).
Narkon wrote: Give it a couple of months (maybe 3) and I bet the nerf bat will strike again. Edit: With my limited roster, I think a team with with CMags (for blue/red) and Black Panther will be fun to play. Match 2 purple (or just 1 if boosted), use it to get black and possible cascades, then use his green and BP's yellow to fill the board with strike tiles and finish with BP's black. A replacement for BP could be Luke Cage whose black doesn't seem expensive (as you need 2x to use effectively) with IF on your team and he brings a little defense to the team.
Switchman wrote: I don't know why D3 keeps releasing chars that only make Xforce stronger and faster. Killing the game for non xforce users. Follow the money eh?
Phantron wrote: Although you can't place the tiles, if you just get 10 purple it's going to be able to convert enough unless you already have 12+ black AP, and at that point you can either use purple for damage or just use the black AP for something if you got anyone who can use it. One interesting side effect is that IF + X Force will trivially infinite on most DA matchup since purple is their strongest color about half of the time, so Surgical Strike will usually hit purple, though to be fair being able to blow away boring DA events is not the worst thing you can do in terms of balance. Not sure why people are still thinking Thor is the one responsible for the imbalance after how medicore she was in Cage Match and the only restriction applied by that event was you can't use X Force. Thor can't do anything without getting rid of a person fast, and right now the only guy who can reliably get rid of even a weak character with a 3 match move is X Force (X Force). Even boosted, Berserker Rage is not something you can use to immediately get rid of someone with having the other pieces go along with it since it can backfire on you easily, and if you have to wait for say 9g + 11black (for Trickery) or 9g + 10r + 9blue (for Smite) that's already very slow. Now X Force uses the same 3 match green/4 match black, but both of his moves have no drawbacks and is will generally collect a large amount of AP being used, which greatly reduces the amount of AP you need in other colors (and for Surgical Strike, it's often 0 for a certain color). If there's no X Force you almost have to resort to a 4 match move to just kill someone, since the only 3 match moves that can qualify would be Berserker Rage (risky), Fireball (not quite enough damage and is on red), and Oldest Trick in the Book (easy to lose the CD and it's red) and if you need a 4 match move to get anything going, there's nothing fast about that setup at all.