Meet Rocket & Groot- Nov 26-Dec 1

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  • Inject Isotope has priority over Shapeshift so unless Mystique has exactly 8 purple AP you'd just get more pointless purple CD tiles on the board instead of Shapeshift, and without Shapeshift you can tank the damage from Masterstroke. It's probably doable with just a straight up Falcon + Daken no AP attack if you're paranoid, but most of the time you don't have to worry about Shapeshift and can just approach the Mystique + goon combos as if it's a normal node.
  • wymtime wrote:
    Ben Grimm wrote:
    I think I'm just going to accept top 50. I'm at around 20th right now, and I'd rather sleep for the next two nights than get an extra Thor cover.
    You are #1 in my sub. Please stop taking it easy.

    That was me doing nodes three times before I went to bed. I woke up at #38.
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    goons feeding icon_doctordoom.png black and blue to chain cast summon demons. fun stuff EASY!
  • xequalsy
    xequalsy Posts: 231
    I've given up on top 10 at this point, I need sleep more than I want one more cover of 4* Thor.

    Hope this last sub isn't as hard as the first one.
  • rawl316
    rawl316 Posts: 114
    I have a pretty easy bracket. I'm 17k > than 6th and 5k ahead of second.
  • _RiO_
    _RiO_ Posts: 1,047 Chairperson of the Boards
    fmftint wrote:
    goons feeding icon_doctordoom.png black and blue to chain cast summon demons. fun stuff EASY!

    Yeah. The second sub was kind of survivable if you played it smart and didn't get double-dosed by Masterstroke + Shapeshift.
    This though, is right back to the ridiculous and unavoidable goon feeding from the first sub.

    I'm going to collect the 50000 Groot progression and then I'm going to quit this event.
    There's no fun in unavoidably getting shred to death like this.

    (Bah! Whoever designed this event's encounters should not be allowed near the design of another.)
  • The nodes in this sub are ridiculous after the first few. The feeding is so bad that if you don't have a killer combo set up by turn 3 or 4, you are meat. Maybe the 3* players have a way to counter this but the only way I can come up with a win is to bomb the **** out of them with the 3-man death squad. When you break that up by inserting a broke-leg, unleveled Groot they become nigh impossible.

    Wishing I had leveled 2* Cap Marvel now.
  • lukewin
    lukewin Posts: 1,356 Chairperson of the Boards
    wymtime wrote:
    If she is essential she might have a PVP then get added into the packs for season 9. How crazy would a 4 thor PVP be. I bet they rotate out IW for her so Sun night will be the 1300 PVP death brackets

    3* Captain Marvel is Top 150 prize, so I assume she'll be the next Essential. Not sure if they're keeping Rocket and Groot as Essentials in the re-run or if they're subbing in Cap Marvel.
  • denouement wrote:
    The nodes in this sub are ridiculous after the first few. The feeding is so bad that if you don't have a killer combo set up by turn 3 or 4, you are meat. Maybe the 3* players have a way to counter this but the only way I can come up with a win is to bomb the **** out of them with the 3-man death squad. When you break that up by inserting a broke-leg, unleveled Groot they become nigh impossible.

    Wishing I had leveled 2* Cap Marvel now.

    Same problem I have, Mystique can demolish my Hulk despite being 40 levels lower. Another event where the devs are too dumb/lazy to come up with mechanically interesting encounters and just use goons to force-feed a character enough AP to overcome the AI's inability to set up their own combos. Maybe one day they'll hire someone interested in making game that is actually enjoyable to play and not a grind you pay money to skip.
  • computer-fed-color Mystique counters hulk - she turns his board shake-up into a breeze in the wind.

    Hulk and 2*Storm would be good against Doom, however. (full) Raging Tempest and Anger every turn? yes plz.

    I aimed for Doom first and Mystique second mostly. Taking out doom is necessary before the board becomes a hurtful place, and if you're lucky you will be able to 1 shot Mystique.

    Mystique puts out some big numbers, but after you take her out it's pretty doable. Mystique is a glass cannon if you have some quick dmg characters. You probably already knew this, but Wind Storming her makes alot of sense.

    I might have to not do the harder nodes b/c Mystique is anti...well, anti-everything RYG(Sentry, Hulk, my 3* lineup more or less).
  • lukewin wrote:
    wymtime wrote:
    If she is essential she might have a PVP then get added into the packs for season 9. How crazy would a 4 thor PVP be. I bet they rotate out IW for her so Sun night will be the 1300 PVP death brackets

    3* Captain Marvel is Top 150 prize, so I assume she'll be the next Essential. Not sure if they're keeping Rocket and Groot as Essentials in the re-run or if they're subbing in Cap Marvel.

    I would think it would be still be Rocket and Groot and mines at a nice level with a large buff that it tanks both Yellow and Green for X-Force.

    Anyhow in case people have not run the numbers yet. There is 5228 points up for grabs each refresh and since LOTS of people are going every refresh anyone can rubber band to the 50K reward even if they not started yet.

    The rubberband this sub is a lot lower than normal around 260% of the base nodes so if you plan to miss more than 3.5 full refreshes you be better off rubber banding the points. (Just do not count getting top 10 with this method)
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ugh. I wish scaling would kick in already. Trying to deal with this 2* person is getting painful.

    This is by far the most optimally I've ever played (like probably under 5 wasted hours over the whole event) and he's still pacing me, while having top deal withmuch lower scaling. What would he even DO with the FT?
  • PuceMoose
    PuceMoose Posts: 1,445 Chairperson of the Boards
    Does anyone have any pointers on the final node in the current sub-tournament? I keep wiping out, getting angrier and drunker, and that's a bad combination while holding an expensive device.
    Just for giggles here's a screenshot I took of the latest attempt:

    6k7qwzk.jpg
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,759 Chairperson of the Boards
    denouement wrote:
    The nodes in this sub are ridiculous after the first few. The feeding is so bad that if you don't have a killer combo set up by turn 3 or 4, you are meat. Maybe the 3* players have a way to counter this but the only way I can come up with a win is to bomb the **** out of them with the 3-man death squad. When you break that up by inserting a broke-leg, unleveled Groot they become nigh impossible.

    Wishing I had leveled 2* Cap Marvel now.

    Same problem I have, Mystique can demolish my Hulk despite being 40 levels lower. Another event where the devs are too dumb/lazy to come up with mechanically interesting encounters and just use goons to force-feed a character enough AP to overcome the AI's inability to set up their own combos. Maybe one day they'll hire someone interested in making game that is actually enjoyable to play and not a grind you pay money to skip.
    The point of the goons is to force feed the AI it's colors. If they make the AI really smart it would kill everyone in PVE and PVP. they make goons for PVE so they don't tinykitty up the AI in PVP. If they just increased the levels of characters it would easily be 295+ again where you could just loose to match damage. By feeding AP the devs can keep levels lower and still have players fail. It is not ideal but I would rather face goons at 150 than matching AI at 295
  • Puce Moose wrote:
    Does anyone have any pointers on the final node in the current sub-tournament? I keep wiping out, getting angrier and drunker, and that's a bad combination while holding an expensive device.
    Just for giggles here's a screenshot I took of the latest attempt:

    6k7qwzk.jpg

    Your team can't take any dmg, which will inevitably happen. Use doom's demons against him thru Hulk/CMarv.
  • Vankysher
    Vankysher Posts: 324 Mover and Shaker
    Puce Moose wrote:
    Does anyone have any pointers on the final node in the current sub-tournament? I keep wiping out, getting angrier and drunker, and that's a bad combination while holding an expensive device.
    Just for giggles here's a screenshot I took of the latest attempt:

    6k7qwzk.jpg

    That looks a lot like what mine is except that happens in the first node Doom appears in for me.
    Can't get kill Doom fast enough and those stupid attack tiles always down at least 1-2 of my team before I can down everyone or I just wind up wiping.
    I typically run out of health packs before I even reach the last node and my useful characters all down or wounded to the point of being useless.
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,759 Chairperson of the Boards
    Puce Moose wrote:
    Does anyone have any pointers on the final node in the current sub-tournament? I keep wiping out, getting angrier and drunker, and that's a bad combination while holding an expensive device.
    Just for giggles here's a screenshot I took of the latest attempt:

    6k7qwzk.jpg
    I call that getting rolphstomped.

    Whomever you use you just need to boost AP to try and get there. If you use Daken he will put strike tiles on red to limit the attack tiles
  • Another possible tactic is to use sentry's red if you have him to blow up the attack tiles doom puts out. I know it's expensive, but the damage you'd take back is a hell of a lot less than he'll do to you with those damn tiles.
  • The first time I played that node, I lucked out and got 2 free 5's on the first move, downing doom. Haven't been able to beat it sense. Those demons knock me senseless.

    It's really hard to get enough Green and Red to block off the demons with feral claws. Even tried MStorm's hailstorm, but that was too slow. The only other 2* possibility that makes sense is get Captain Marvel hit enough to generate enough for Wolverine's Adamantium strike, but I haven't freed up a slot for her.
  • Puce, if you have OBW, I'd sub her out for Hood, so you can get the double damage on Espionage. You need fast damage to beat Doom. If you are going to use MHawkeye, you need someone that can create crits like Hulk, GSBW or MNMags, otherwise he's too slow.