The Hunt - Oct. 24-28

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Phantron wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

I hope after the address the time zone issue, they'll address node refresh times. I have no problem with the people who put the most effort and time in winning, but it'd be nice if the required 2.5 intervals would not make people set up their whole life around the game.

And no, I don't think the gauntlet is the answer. I just think a sight tweak after the time zone issue here resolved would be fine. Even if it was just once every 12 or 8 hours, I could live a pretty full life like that.

They could just go back to the old system where the nodes refreshed every 12 hours so at least you'll be done for the next 12 hours after hitting your node whatever number of times you felt was comfortable. It's pretty obvious from looking at the sub scores to see who are the guy who didn't sleep. Honestly the only issue with the old system was that if you didn't keep good track of your time you might not know when your stacks refreshed or if it's one stack short since most people sure don't have the mission base value and the rubberbanding mechanism memorized so 80% versus 100% can easily look pretty close when you don't know the numbers for either. With a timer to 100% you'd be able to know when your stack is back at 100% and this gives you a 12 hour window instead of 2H 24M. Sure there's still going to be the guys trying to squeeze in 3 12 hour clears in a 26 hour period instead of 2 for an advantage, but it's no worse than 'you go to sleep and have been mathematically eliminated from top X'.

That would be nice. Typically, I do PvP for rewards and iso. I play pve for fun since can use and play against different team compositions. The current format that encourages grinding and scaling.... Is not fun. It's weird. I actually feel bad for the point leaders.

Spoit

Yeah, sure you cover up MsM if you're using your A team, but if you have a B team since your A team is all down, you quite likely will be having gaps in the color coverage, especially since most duos focus on synergies in only a couple covers (which is rarely black unless it's x-force). I just had her die twice in this set of runs before I could even do more than 4/6 of the essential nodes.

The 50 minute revive timer is really harshing my mellow here

Unknown

The grinding situation for this event is somehow not very bad due to a bizarre mix of factors. This event has especially low rubberbanding, and if you go to sleep you're generally already mathematically eliminated from top 2 because there are almost always 2 guys in your main bracket who don't appear to need sleep. The nodes are incredibly tough, and even the normal freebie essential nodes is hard because you're practically fighting 2on3 so while it's still easier, it's not like the normal event where the featured guy is generally someone you're already using so it's just extra points for running the same team you're always using. I missed the last refresh on my sub because I felt asleep but still had #13 (went to bed at #1) so you do hold your place pretty well if you were able to put up a decent score. A lot of time you'll simply hit a refresh and die immediately and then you don't have to worry about grinding anymore either.

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Spoit wrote:

Yeah, sure you cover up MsM if you're using your A team, but if you have a B team since your A team is all down, you quite likely will be having gaps in the color coverage, especially since most duos focus on synergies in only a couple covers (which is rarely black unless it's x-force). I just had her die twice in this set of runs before I could even do more than 4/6 of the essential nodes.

The 50 minute revive timer is really harshing my mellow here

Why are you guys doing subs two at a time. Just join when there's like 8 hours left and do a couple passes and you'll get top 10. If you grind you'll get first.

Unknown

Is there any update on the current main bracket? It should be close to full or full already.

Unknown

OK, I'm ready for this event to be over now. I'm sick of fighting Daken and Ragnarok. 2 subs at once with the same combinations of enemies is dull dull dull.

ClydeFrog76

After enjoying the hell out of Anniversary Week and happily getting back on board the MPQ Hype Train, this event is reminding me why I quit playing altogether a while ago.

Worst ever imo. I wish they'd just take it out back and retire it with daddy's .22.

Pylgrim

ark123 wrote:

Spoit wrote:

Yeah, sure you cover up MsM if you're using your A team, but if you have a B team since your A team is all down, you quite likely will be having gaps in the color coverage, especially since most duos focus on synergies in only a couple covers (which is rarely black unless it's x-force). I just had her die twice in this set of runs before I could even do more than 4/6 of the essential nodes.

The 50 minute revive timer is really harshing my mellow here

Why are you guys doing subs two at a time. Just join when there's like 8 hours left and do a couple passes and you'll get top 10. If you grind you'll get first.

Not sure this is working anymore? I joined the Savage lands after 12 hours that it started and I was position 594. Been grinding ever since and best I've managed is 149.

Anyway, this is seriously the worst PVE ever. For some reason I thought that scaling would reset after the subs looped but I just played Alaska and my opponents are level 211. Completely ridiculous. I was already having trouble with the 170 ones amd if this keeps progressing at this rhythm, I'll easily be seeing 300 level enemies by the end of the event. Or not, pretty sure that when they hit 250 I just will not be able to defeat them. They're strong enough already that after 6 turns Hulk is at half life and that just from match damage.

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ark123 wrote:

Spoit wrote:

Yeah, sure you cover up MsM if you're using your A team, but if you have a B team since your A team is all down, you quite likely will be having gaps in the color coverage, especially since most duos focus on synergies in only a couple covers (which is rarely black unless it's x-force). I just had her die twice in this set of runs before I could even do more than 4/6 of the essential nodes.

The 50 minute revive timer is really harshing my mellow here

Why are you guys doing subs two at a time. Just join when there's like 8 hours left and do a couple passes and you'll get top 10. If you grind you'll get first.

But that won't help you get Blade.

So I do the opposite - join as early as I can, maybe do a pass, and then don't touch it again until the next day. Scaling lets me catch up quickly with less grinding than needed otherwise.

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kalirion wrote:

ark123 wrote:

Spoit wrote:

Yeah, sure you cover up MsM if you're using your A team, but if you have a B team since your A team is all down, you quite likely will be having gaps in the color coverage, especially since most duos focus on synergies in only a couple covers (which is rarely black unless it's x-force). I just had her die twice in this set of runs before I could even do more than 4/6 of the essential nodes.

The 50 minute revive timer is really harshing my mellow here

Why are you guys doing subs two at a time. Just join when there's like 8 hours left and do a couple passes and you'll get top 10. If you grind you'll get first.

But that won't help you get Blade.

So I do the opposite - join as early as I can, maybe do a pass, and then don't touch it again until the next day. Scaling lets me catch up quickly with less grinding than needed otherwise.

Agree to disagree.





Haven't joined Alaska yet btw

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What top 10 are we talking about? If you're talking about top 10 overall, that doesn't require anything fancy as long as you don't have too many guys who decided to skip sleep. If you're talking about top 10 in a sub, it's almost impossible to get a top 10 with a last minute joining unless you happened to join a completely fresh sub because anyone with 1 or more cycle worth of points isn't going to get caught unless they missed the last refresh. This event is brutal enough that even playing fairly casually can get you pretty far as long as you don't plan on competing against the guys who didn't sleep. A lot of time I don't even have enough health packs to do 2 subs at once so why do 2 subs at once if you can't clear both to begin with?

Ducky

Yea, I only join a sub once the previous one is over. Currently sitting in 2nd in my main and it's far less aggravation and management.

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Phantron wrote:

What top 10 are we talking about? If you're talking about top 10 overall, that doesn't require anything fancy as long as you don't have too many guys who decided to skip sleep. If you're talking about top 10 in a sub, it's almost impossible to get a top 10 with a last minute joining unless you happened to join a completely fresh sub because anyone with 1 or more cycle worth of points isn't going to get caught unless they missed the last refresh. This event is brutal enough that even playing fairly casually can get you pretty far as long as you don't plan on competing against the guys who didn't sleep. A lot of time I don't even have enough health packs to do 2 subs at once so why do 2 subs at once if you can't clear both to begin with?

You can get away with draining each node until sub 100 points and doing it a couple more times closer to the end of the sub also(yes even joining after the 10 hour mark). Sometimes there's a last minute mad dash to 1/2nd but if you've cleared a few thousand points in difference you can keep a pretty leisurely pace until the end and still come out with a couple tokens.

Also sometimes you just avoid a node- I try to avoid all Ares boosted over 200 (and daken if possible, to a lesser degree) because his green becomes straight up **** after a certain point - you can still probably do it with a team of boosted cStorm+mnMags+hawkeye if you boost but it's always a huge gamble. Sentry bombing is also a possibility (I've also done it with an early zerker rage+matching a few double hits with OBW but it takes so much luck it's not really worth it).

Overall I don't think this pve is particularly harder than the last couple. The last one has some crazy **** nodes that scaled to preposterous levels later on.

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ark123 wrote:

Phantron wrote:

What top 10 are we talking about? If you're talking about top 10 overall, that doesn't require anything fancy as long as you don't have too many guys who decided to skip sleep. If you're talking about top 10 in a sub, it's almost impossible to get a top 10 with a last minute joining unless you happened to join a completely fresh sub because anyone with 1 or more cycle worth of points isn't going to get caught unless they missed the last refresh. This event is brutal enough that even playing fairly casually can get you pretty far as long as you don't plan on competing against the guys who didn't sleep. A lot of time I don't even have enough health packs to do 2 subs at once so why do 2 subs at once if you can't clear both to begin with?

You can get away with draining each node until sub 100 points and doing it a couple more times closer to the end of the sub also(yes even joining after the 10 hour mark). Sometimes there's a last minute mad dash to 1/2nd but if you've cleared a few thousand points in difference you can keep a pretty leisurely pace until the end and still come out with a couple tokens.

Also sometimes you just avoid a node- I try to avoid all Ares boosted over 200 (and daken if possible, to a lesser degree) because his green becomes straight up **** after a certain point - you can still probably do it with a team of boosted cStorm+mnMags+hawkeye if you boost but it's always a huge gamble. Sentry bombing is also a possibility (I've also done it with an early zerker rage+matching a few double hits with OBW but it takes so much luck it's not really worth it).

Overall I don't think this pve is particularly harder than the last couple. The last one has some crazy **** nodes that scaled to preposterous levels later on.

It sounds like you join with at least half a day left on the sub and that's plenty of time to make up a deficit. I don't see how you can possibly do it if you joined on the last cycle unless you're just lucky and got a brand new sub. In this event I found that since the hard nodes are really hard, being able to do all your easy nodes really adds up since very few people are going to be touchign the 200+ Ares node.

The nodes are roughly the same composition as the last event but you got more Daken and Ares wasn't available last event. The Maggias are stronger goons but you got PvE champ Captain America major boosted too. I had no problem fighting enemies until around the level 300 range with Captain America doing most of the heavy lifting. On the other hand Captain Marvel's greatest contribution for me so far is being able to take out 2 protect tiles against Bullseye.

Unknown

Should be a new bracket says there is only 73 players at the moment. Ranked 67th after completing the first node. Highest score is 2700ish. GL! And please don't beat me for top 10 haha

Moon Roach

Wolveroach has pretty much given up. Even with an extra day (Monday is Labour Day in NZ, a holiday) he's managed only 26k so far.

The essential nodes are lower level and worth more points than the normal nodes. For example, Jump Jets II is level 129 and worth 555 points, Stragglers is the highest level essential node at 81 and is worth 600 points.

Moon Roach has reached 53k and is just hitting essential nodes and the easy/normal non-essential nodes when he feels like it.

I'll say it again, without the essential character you stand no chance at all, if you're a transitioning player and don't spend HP on tokens in an attempt to get a cover.

Here's a challenge for those with rosters both diverse and mighty: play the next PvE event without using the essential character and without using characters above 2*. Walk a mile in the shoes of those wearing the shoes you threw away 7 miles back. I'd be very interested in success stories and how it was done.

y2fitzy

Spot on Roachy. Not even going particularly hardcore at this one, sat on 52,600 points and 18th in my main. The wonder of the Ms Marvel 2* (and only having a 2* roster anyway, so scaling isn't insane)

Mind numbingly dull playing the same villains over and over and over.

Have to confess, I had it in my head that the Hunt was the event where you recruit Hulk so had got a little excited about adding to him as my Hulk is hilariously inbalanced at 1-0-4. Sad times when I realised that was a different PVE

simonsez

Moon Roach wrote:

Here's a challenge for those with rosters both diverse and mighty: play the next PvE event without using the essential character and without using characters above 2*. Walk a mile in the shoes of those wearing the shoes you threw away 7 miles back. I'd be very interested in success stories and how it was done.

Would love to try, but they're still going to be throwing lv 395 opponents at me, so those old shoes don't come close to fitting.

Unknown

Man, even the essential nodes are getting too hard to play now. "More Stragglers" is just ridiculous at eating boosts and health packs, and the enemies are only at 98. Just way too much health between them, too many different active power colours to deny, and OBW is too squishy to use against Ragnarok with him alternating power uses almost every turn.

I dunno, maybe I should do some shield sim and try to farm Aggressive Recon TU? At least I can use Daken, so that's one less health pack each time I attempt it. Much prologue healing.

Unknown

I think the current format of PVE actually lets you get more sleep than other games where you might have to wake up for 5 mins every hour to rank top 10. At least in this format of pve, you can take a small penalty by clearing all nodes 3 times and then sleep for 4 and half hours before you have to clear them again;

This event in particular sucks. For non-goon nodes, I'm stuck to using the same team over and over.