How is this possible

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  • Phantron wrote:
    What locked posted is similar to the 'no retal' scenario I've seen on occasional basis. It seems to me this guy is deemed as too weak to be seen by the strongest rosters, and normally that wouldn't stop the retals but for some reason he's also leaving no retals behind, and if you combine the two it's obviously very safe to sit unshielded at even very high point totals. I think it's more likely a bug because the 'no retal' situations I run into don't seem to be from anyone who appear to be suspicious as those guys usually have very modest scores.


    It's not a bug. They're blocking ports.
  • Phantron wrote:
    What locked posted is similar to the 'no retal' scenario I've seen on occasional basis. It seems to me this guy is deemed as too weak to be seen by the strongest rosters, and normally that wouldn't stop the retals but for some reason he's also leaving no retals behind, and if you combine the two it's obviously very safe to sit unshielded at even very high point totals. I think it's more likely a bug because the 'no retal' situations I run into don't seem to be from anyone who appear to be suspicious as those guys usually have very modest scores.


    It's not a bug. They're blocking ports.

    you mean like blocking ports in your router wall, like inverse port forwarding? if so they should be sandboxed and anyone affected by them being in their bracket should be compensated. i'm 5th in my high stakes bracket and NRG521 has been sitting in second with 1313 unshielded since yesturday afternoon.
  • Sledge
    Sledge Posts: 42 Just Dropped In
    Yama82 is sitting in 3rd in my bracket with 1317 points. I've reported it but don't expect anything to happen.
  • Make sure you take screenies of what you see.

    I saved some from the last bracket I was in with yama82.
  • MarvelMan
    MarvelMan Posts: 1,350
    I ran into a player (forgot to document the name) last night in High Stakes that has a similar issue. He was at 1980 and I found him twice over ~10 min. His points didnt change between so it makes me think he was unshielded the entire time rather than shield hopping but somehow wasnt taking losses. The worst part, the first time I attacked I only gained 14pts rather than the 49 my node listed. The second time, I only received 8. I sent in a report this morning. His name started with P, but I dont remember the rest or the alliance. Very frustrating as I used health packs and boosts, plus broke my shield just to hit him.
  • An hour later and I'm up to 3rd but nrg521 is still sitting unshielded at 1313...
  • reckless442
    reckless442 Posts: 532 Critical Contributor
    MarvelMan wrote:
    I ran into a player (forgot to document the name) last night in High Stakes that has a similar issue. He was at 1980 and I found him twice over ~10 min. His points didnt change between so it makes me think he was unshielded the entire time rather than shield hopping but somehow wasnt taking losses. The worst part, the first time I attacked I only gained 14pts rather than the 49 my node listed. The second time, I only received 8. I sent in a report this morning. His name started with P, but I dont remember the rest or the alliance. Very frustrating as I used health packs and boosts, plus broke my shield just to hit him.
    I suspect you ran into Panthasanynyasi from Deadpools Tacos. He was at 1980 last night and then threw up a 3-hr shield, planning to do one more attack before sleeping. Unfortunately, he fell asleep instead. When the shield expired, he dropped to the 800s. You probably kept getting nodes that reflected his score before he dropped those thousand points.
  • True story...
  • MarvelMan
    MarvelMan Posts: 1,350
    MarvelMan wrote:
    I ran into a player (forgot to document the name) last night in High Stakes that has a similar issue. He was at 1980 and I found him twice over ~10 min. His points didnt change between so it makes me think he was unshielded the entire time rather than shield hopping but somehow wasnt taking losses. The worst part, the first time I attacked I only gained 14pts rather than the 49 my node listed. The second time, I only received 8. I sent in a report this morning. His name started with P, but I dont remember the rest or the alliance. Very frustrating as I used health packs and boosts, plus broke my shield just to hit him.
    I suspect you ran into Panthasanynyasi from Deadpools Tacos. He was at 1980 last night and then threw up a 3-hr shield, planning to do one more attack before sleeping. Unfortunately, he fell asleep instead. When the shield expired, he dropped to the 800s. You probably kept getting nodes that reflected his score before he dropped those thousand points.


    Ouch.



    Cant really say much else. I would bet that that was it, but its pretty aggravating to see a 49pt node then only get a few points. And still be able to find that match again later. Thinking back, it was probably closer to 20 min (had to wait for a HP to replenish) so why was I seeing it that way almost 20 min apart? Especially after I used upwards of 2k iso skipping.

    Oh, and WorldRunner dropped ~900 points very quickly last night too.
  • Sledge
    Sledge Posts: 42 Just Dropped In
    I did take screen shots and sent them in too. Another thing to think about, how is he defeating maxed Hood / Sentry combos or whatever maxed opponents he's seeing with the roster he has? Only punisher at 145, X-force at 130 and only 2 maxed 2*.
  • user311
    user311 Posts: 482 Mover and Shaker
    Laughing - same thing happened to be with Pantha.... Had him queued up and then then got short changed. I queued him up like an hour in advance. Guess thats the risk when I dont queue em up right before hopping.
  • MarvelMan wrote:
    I ran into a player (forgot to document the name) last night in High Stakes that has a similar issue. He was at 1980 and I found him twice over ~10 min. His points didnt change between so it makes me think he was unshielded the entire time rather than shield hopping but somehow wasnt taking losses. The worst part, the first time I attacked I only gained 14pts rather than the 49 my node listed. The second time, I only received 8. I sent in a report this morning. His name started with P, but I dont remember the rest or the alliance. Very frustrating as I used health packs and boosts, plus broke my shield just to hit him.
    I suspect you ran into Panthasanynyasi from Deadpools Tacos. He was at 1980 last night and then threw up a 3-hr shield, planning to do one more attack before sleeping. Unfortunately, he fell asleep instead. When the shield expired, he dropped to the 800s. You probably kept getting nodes that reflected his score before he dropped those thousand points.

    Lesson learned: don't sleep if you wan't to compete in MPQ! icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Nighthawk81
    Nighthawk81 Posts: 166 Tile Toppler
    MarvelMan wrote:

    Ouch.



    Cant really say much else. I would bet that that was it, but its pretty aggravating to see a 49pt node then only get a few points. And still be able to find that match again later. Thinking back, it was probably closer to 20 min (had to wait for a HP to replenish) so why was I seeing it that way almost 20 min apart? Especially after I used upwards of 2k iso skipping.

    Oh, and WorldRunner dropped ~900 points very quickly last night too.

    It seems that when we are queueing, if you queue someone and then don't skip any other nodes, after you play that match and then skip in the SAME node, the same person shows up again. No clue if this is a bug or just the way it works.
  • MarvelMan
    MarvelMan Posts: 1,350
    MarvelMan wrote:

    Ouch.



    Cant really say much else. I would bet that that was it, but its pretty aggravating to see a 49pt node then only get a few points. And still be able to find that match again later. Thinking back, it was probably closer to 20 min (had to wait for a HP to replenish) so why was I seeing it that way almost 20 min apart? Especially after I used upwards of 2k iso skipping.

    Oh, and WorldRunner dropped ~900 points very quickly last night too.

    It seems that when we are queueing, if you queue someone and then don't skip any other nodes, after you play that match and then skip in the SAME node, the same person shows up again. No clue if this is a bug or just the way it works.

    I was skipping through all nodes. I had fought on one, then found a 30pt on it and started skipping on others to see if anything better was out there. Seems they either need to give you the points shown, or figure out how to more quickly update the display.
  • How can blocking ports do anything given the server has to know XYZ had a victory against someone? It doesn't matter what you're tinkering on your client. As soon as the server receives the news of your victory it should give a retaliation back. The only exception is if you're somehow able to convince the server that you're permanently shielded. But if there's a cheat that lets you play as if you're shielded the whole time it'd hardly be limited to guys with weak roster. In all games with significant hacking it's quite clear people don't care for subtlety and having a hack that lets you play permanently shielded is a huge (if not insurmountable) advantage and you're going to see it very easily.

    It's far more likely there's some bug that requires a certain type of roster that makes it as if you're permanently shielded, because if it's easily reproducible, you'll be seeing it all over the place.
  • reckless442
    reckless442 Posts: 532 Critical Contributor
    user311 wrote:
    Laughing - same thing happened to be with Pantha.... Had him queued up and then then got short changed. I queued him up like an hour in advance. Guess thats the risk when I dont queue em up right before hopping.
    You could have avoided it by checking Pantha's current score since he is in Deadpools, which was top-10 at the time. Those scores are always current.
  • Look who's sitting in the top 10 in my season simulator.
    He's not had a shield at all in the last 24 hours.. Pretty weird looking at his roster :/
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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    Westy3079 wrote:
    Look who's sitting in the top 10 in my season simulator.
    He's not had a shield at all in the last 24 hours.. Pretty weird looking at his roster :/
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    Yeah, yama82 is sitting at 900+ unshielded in my PVP bracket, too.

    So glad to see people like Gipsy getting sandboxed automatically and guys like this running around for weeks without anything being done, especially with the end of the season going on.
  • Bowgentle wrote:
    Westy3079 wrote:
    Look who's sitting in the top 10 in my season simulator.
    He's not had a shield at all in the last 24 hours.. Pretty weird looking at his roster :/
    image.jpg
    Yeah, yama82 is sitting at 900+ unshielded in my PVP bracket, too.

    So glad to see people like Gipsy getting sandboxed automatically and guys like this running around for weeks without anything being done, especially with the end of the season going on.
    He's up to top 5 now & at 2400 pts so that's another 2 nice 3 star covers he gets that most people would not be able to achieve without shields..
    His alliance is just ahead of mine in the 190's, lost legion.. So they're obviously not all at it.
  • Houtro
    Houtro Posts: 464 Mover and Shaker
    It's happening again!
    The all event unshield! It's not strange to you guys...!? Or this just me!

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    His/Her 1st page of the roster:
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