Venom Heroic - Oct 13 - 15

mags1587

I haven't joined the heroic yet but I'm thinking that I'll primarily use GSBW, Hawkeye, and a third... I like the idea of Deceptive Tactics + Speed Shot.

ZeiramMR

mags1587 wrote:

I haven't joined the heroic yet but I'm thinking that I'll primarily use GSBW, Hawkeye, and a third... I like the idea of Deceptive Tactics + Speed Shot.

Yeah, I've been using them with Thor on nodes that aren't goon-only. Between Deceptive Tactics and Thunder Strike, there are decent opportunities to get Speed Shot going.

Unknown

mags1587 wrote:

I haven't joined the heroic yet but I'm thinking that I'll primarily use GSBW, Hawkeye, and a third... I like the idea of Deceptive Tactics + Speed Shot.

Thor is a good third.

His Yellow has a decent chance to make a 5 match, and if not, it populates the board with and then you can set up some with GSBW.

y2fitzy

That Yelena, Muscle, Hitman node....

Phone seriously close to being flushed down the loo in frustration

GrimSkald

y2fitzy wrote:

That Yelena, Muscle, Hitman node....

Phone seriously close to being flushed down the loo in frustration

Actually, I'm having more trouble with the Yelena, Muscle, Bullseye node. I've nearly wiped out twice on that, and limped out broken and bleeding once more. "Trivial" my tinykitty.

Unknown

This one is a brutal healthpack muncher. GSBW's Sniper Rifle always wins the game, but a ton of damage is usually sustained in getting those greens, and GSBW tanks all her colors, as well as any "loose" ones and the team up tiles. If her puple doesnt give enough for the sniper rifle, Hawkeye's does a lot of damage and maybe downs one of the opponents (I try to make it Daken if he's there.)

Been switching between GSBW/Hawkeye/Thor and GSBW/Hawkeye/Cap.

Phantron wrote:

Looking at the roster offered the best team is likely Hawkeye + Thor + GSBW and that's only if you don't have anyone at 166 to make the damage/tanking ability of the 2* irrelevent due to level shift.

They really need to stop offering 3 random 3*s that have no synergy whatsoever and yet still scale enemies as if they're part of a good team if any of them happens to be 166. You can't scale enemies to Falcon at level 166 if your roster includes nobody that can make use of Falcon's strength. In this example pretty much all 3 3*s have a primary green attack and not much else so you'd be woefully undercovered in all the other colors if you tried to use all 3 of them at the same time.

At least Hawkeye has synergy with three of the characters, and Thor can feed GSBW. But that's it as far as synergy goes.

Unknown

This event has completely devolved into "if I get to Sniper Rifle, I win. If I can't, I lose."

Unknown

Grizzlegom wrote:

This event has completely devolved into "if I get to Sniper Rifle, I win. If I can't, I lose."

I think it's the first time where I've got all three 3*s allowed and have only used one of them much. Admittedly, I'm only hitting the essentials and the three easy missions, and haven't event bothered with most of the harder ones (I think I have at least four nodes still locked, and it'll be that way still when this thing is over with.

But - like I said, it's still my favorite ever heroic, since nothing's at stake but pride.

y2fitzy

My 3*s are all essentially worthless in this one. My GSBW has one cover in red and pink, Storm has five in black but nothing elsewhere and Beast has one blue and one green.

It's completely the Thor show, with Cap or Hawkeye occasionally busting out a stun that saves my bacon

Unknown

So at what point just scaling change when your roster changes? After a refresh period?

I've dumped a few levels worth of ISO into GSBW while keeping an eye on one node's levels, and they didn't change. Or does the scaling go by threasholds for your highest usable hero level - in which case, what are the thresholds if anyone knows, besides 166/249?

GrumpySmurf1002

kalirion wrote:

So at what point just scaling change when your roster changes? After a refresh period?

I've dumped a few levels worth of ISO into GSBW while keeping an eye on one node's levels, and they didn't change. Or does the scaling go by threasholds for your highest usable hero level - in which case, what are the thresholds if anyone knows, besides 166/249?

My understanding is your personal scaling is set at the beginning of the event, so leveling mid-event wouldn't do anything.

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GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

kalirion wrote:

So at what point just scaling change when your roster changes? After a refresh period?

I've dumped a few levels worth of ISO into GSBW while keeping an eye on one node's levels, and they didn't change. Or does the scaling go by threasholds for your highest usable hero level - in which case, what are the thresholds if anyone knows, besides 166/249?

My understanding is your personal scaling is set at the beginning of the event, so leveling mid-event wouldn't do anything.

Oh cool, if that's so maybe I should start saving up ISO for leveling LCap once that event starts. The scaling is off the boosted levels, correct? So LCap would be driving the scaling as he'd be boosted past my non-boosted 166s?

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kalirion wrote:

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

kalirion wrote:

So at what point just scaling change when your roster changes? After a refresh period?

I've dumped a few levels worth of ISO into GSBW while keeping an eye on one node's levels, and they didn't change. Or does the scaling go by threasholds for your highest usable hero level - in which case, what are the thresholds if anyone knows, besides 166/249?

My understanding is your personal scaling is set at the beginning of the event, so leveling mid-event wouldn't do anything.

Oh cool, if that's so maybe I should start saving up ISO for leveling LCap once that event starts. The scaling is off the boosted levels, correct? So LCap would be driving the scaling as he'd be boosted past my non-boosted 166s?

It's based on the character's base level not their boosted level, or it'd be impossible for a newbie with a level 40 featured character (boosted to 130) to have any chance in these events.

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Phantron wrote:

kalirion wrote:

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

kalirion wrote:

So at what point just scaling change when your roster changes? After a refresh period?

I've dumped a few levels worth of ISO into GSBW while keeping an eye on one node's levels, and they didn't change. Or does the scaling go by threasholds for your highest usable hero level - in which case, what are the thresholds if anyone knows, besides 166/249?

My understanding is your personal scaling is set at the beginning of the event, so leveling mid-event wouldn't do anything.

Oh cool, if that's so maybe I should start saving up ISO for leveling LCap once that event starts. The scaling is off the boosted levels, correct? So LCap would be driving the scaling as he'd be boosted past my non-boosted 166s?

It's based on the character's base level not their boosted level, or it'd be impossible for a newbie with a level 40 featured character (boosted to 130) to have any chance in these events.

Ah, ok, thanks. So then I should feel free to level LCap now, unless the next PVE is another heroic, which I wouldn't put past them.

...

I think I'll wait.

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Ben Grimm wrote:

Grizzlegom wrote:

This event has completely devolved into "if I get to Sniper Rifle, I win. If I can't, I lose."

I think it's the first time where I've got all three 3*s allowed and have only used one of them much. Admittedly, I'm only hitting the essentials and the three easy missions, and haven't event bothered with most of the harder ones (I think I have at least four nodes still locked, and it'll be that way still when this thing is over with.

But - like I said, it's still my favorite ever heroic, since nothing's at stake but pride.

Thor/Falcon/Hulk was quite similar. Hulk can't tank because Thor is major boosted and Falcon pretty much is only there for Redwing. But if you got any of the characters at 166 level shift prevents you from using your 2*s effectively so the 3*s do have to pull their weight. People didn't complain about Thor because Thor can still go 1on3 if needed but there are only a handful of 3*s that could do 1on3 against enemies scaled for 166 even when they're 256.

Unknown

Will see how rubberbanding goes but since the only thing I need is the purple GSBW may just tell myself that with participation so low that is just not going to be reachable and save myself the trouble.

Marty17

Probably just me but this is the 1st ever heroic event where I'd imagined even with a fully built/levelled roster, I would still struggle to beat these missions. I have 6/8 required characters at max level with the other 2 at their soft cap & my God, the only tactics I have is get enough greens & survive Daken's Pheremone Rage to execute Sniper Rifle or getting a match 5 & have it intact on the board till it goes off.

Unknown

not just you. This event is garbage.

Pwuz_

Marty17 wrote:

Probably just me but this is the 1st ever heroic event where I'd imagined even with a fully built/levelled roster, I would still struggle to beat these missions. I have 6/8 required characters at max level with the other 2 at their soft cap & my God, the only tactics I have is get enough greens & survive Daken's Pheremone Rage to execute Sniper Rifle or getting a match 5 & have it intact on the board till it goes off.

Ah, but if you can manage enough Green to launch Sniper Rifle...

I don't know if I've run into any team that can live through that once I get it off. Nearly 6K to everyone plus extra damage and cascades to the target will do that though.

Unknown

I honestly think we should never have this event again. I can't even fathom how I'd be able to manage half these nodes without 5 in sniper. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't at all.