Thick as Thieves - Aug 5-11

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Sumilea wrote:

PPPlaya wrote:

ugh, so almost no rubberbanding?
Now I need to grind the last few subs for the spidey covers and hope the people play through the main right now.

There is no rubber banding on the main nodes

So the values right now are the the same values the nodes will have 5 minute before the event ends?

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PPPlaya wrote:

Sumilea wrote:

PPPlaya wrote:

ugh, so almost no rubberbanding?
Now I need to grind the last few subs for the spidey covers and hope the people play through the main right now.

There is no rubber banding on the main nodes

So the values right now are the the same values the nodes will have 5 minute before the event ends?

That is correct. You can do them any time you like between now and the end.

Quick edit: I can only see two nodes obviously some of the others might have rubber banding on them as they split nodes before but seems unlikely

OnesOwnGrief

I say, I hate that Hood + Magneto fight with a passion. Sadly, I was only able to win because Spider-Man and a boosted GSBW Team-Up that I had which did 4k+ on a shot. Screw you CMags but you can't touch Spidey's defense and screw you Hood but you can't steal my TU AP!

vudu3

Is the rubberbanding on the sub-event based on the leader's score in the main event or the sub-event? Trying to determine if I should hit all the main event nodes now to avoid scaling or wait until after the current sub-event ends to take advantage of sub-event rubberbanding. If the sub-event rubberbanding is based entirely on the leader's score in the sub-event then there's no downside to playing the main event nodes now.

Marty17

Yeah, Spider-Man definitely helped in that node. In fact I was so far ahead (KO The Hood still with 3 team members with 80%+ hp each) I toyed with Magneto by denying him purple, causing his spam attacks moot.

morgh

I have 44 k points, which puts me around 80th spot atm (I haven't touch the current sub or main yet)

Peek a Boo at 1480
Cover her at 520

Since people at completely different total point values have the exact same values for those nodes, then we can safely say that there is 0 RB on them and they can be done whenever you please at all

EDIT: It really shows that Devs are actually learning on their mistakes since this solution does not invalidate the subevents but is only an "ISO bonus" ;D

OnesOwnGrief

I have 1480 on The Who, my last node.

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vudu3 wrote:

Is the rubberbanding on the sub-event based on the leader's score in the main event or the sub-event? Trying to determine if I should hit all the main event nodes now to avoid scaling or wait until after the current sub-event ends to take advantage of sub-event rubberbanding. If the sub-event rubberbanding is based entirely on the leader's score in the sub-event then there's no downside to playing the main event nodes now.

Sub events always have rubber banding of the subs. Else next to no one would do the early subs since whatever lead you had could be rubber banded away. (That is why I do not like rubber banding on main nodes it makes subs worthless)

dr tinykittylove

OnesOwnGrief wrote:

I say, I hate that Hood + Magneto fight with a passion. Sadly, I was only able to win because Spider-Man and a boosted GSBW Team-Up that I had which did 4k+ on a shot. Screw you CMags but you can't touch Spidey's defense and screw you Hood but you can't steal my TU AP!

I had the same idea with TU and brought in a few strong ones, then realised unlike the don/im35/cmags node, they actually had to collect their own ap, and hood only steals one of each colour per turn.

Cmag's most dangerous attack is his purple. Neither he nor Hood have really strong attacks otherwise.

So, enter buffed!Thor/Hulk/OBW and focus on green and purple. Target squishy Hood. OBW steals back purple from Hood and everything else when she gets enough for AR. Not like CMags or Hood can do anything with green anyway. Hulk tanks most colours, and if CMags hits him hard enough he makes more green.

Cots on their tinykitties. Mags is left bereaved and sad.

...

Profit!!!

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The Mag + Hood one you have to stop Magneto from getting red because there is no conflicting power to prevent him from spamming red unlike most PvP events, and his red resets the board to a favorable state for Dormammu regardless of what colors you were trying to deny. Of course since he only needs 2 red AP to use Magnetized Particles, this is often easier said than done.

noobprime

Has anyone added up what the final nodes in the main add to your final score?
I'm guess-timating about 13K?

Unknown

Best combo I've found for Mags/Hood so far is Daken/Psy/Falcon. Not dependent on AP to get the damage rolling. And 6 black is much easier to get to. Get out Psi-Katana and a few strikes, and you can block purple after that, which Daken tanks.

HairyDave

Phantron wrote:

The Mag + Hood one you have to stop Magneto from getting red because there is no conflicting power to prevent him from spamming red unlike most PvP events, and his red resets the board to a favorable state for Dormammu regardless of what colors you were trying to deny. Of course since he only needs 2 red AP to use Magnetized Particles, this is often easier said than done.

No kidding.

I was this close to pulling it out on the first attempt - Psyduck and Punisher were dead but so was Hood so Hulk stood off against Mags. I got him down to 500 something health remaining and enough green to happyslap him into submission when he Translocated me

reckless442

Sumilea wrote:

vudu3 wrote:

Is the rubberbanding on the sub-event based on the leader's score in the main event or the sub-event? Trying to determine if I should hit all the main event nodes now to avoid scaling or wait until after the current sub-event ends to take advantage of sub-event rubberbanding. If the sub-event rubberbanding is based entirely on the leader's score in the sub-event then there's no downside to playing the main event nodes now.

Sub events always have rubber banding of the subs. Else next to no one would do the early subs since whatever lead you had could be rubber banded away. (That is why I do not like rubber banding on main nodes it makes subs worthless)

The flipside of that is that if you get into subs with leaders who grind, you get a lot more points than other people in your main. Placement in subs is purely random, so unless the main has some way of correcting for that imbalance, the people who are placed in lower-scoring subs have no way of catching the leaders. Add to that the situation in my main bracket, which only just filled more than 24 hours after I joined and probably two to three days after it opened, and there is little hope for later-starters to be remotely competitive in this PVE. When I joined, I was 20k behind the leader in my bracket. Now I'm 27k behind. If it weren't for trying to help my alliance stay in the top-100, I wouldn't even be bothering.

I'm not saying that I support such crazy rubber-banding that makes the last two hours wipe out everything that has come before, but I am sick and tired of the Devs changing the format of events without giving us any idea what the ending is going to be like.

Spoit

reckless442 wrote:

Sumilea wrote:

vudu3 wrote:

Is the rubberbanding on the sub-event based on the leader's score in the main event or the sub-event? Trying to determine if I should hit all the main event nodes now to avoid scaling or wait until after the current sub-event ends to take advantage of sub-event rubberbanding. If the sub-event rubberbanding is based entirely on the leader's score in the sub-event then there's no downside to playing the main event nodes now.

Sub events always have rubber banding of the subs. Else next to no one would do the early subs since whatever lead you had could be rubber banded away. (That is why I do not like rubber banding on main nodes it makes subs worthless)

The flipside of that is that if you get into subs with leaders who grind, you get a lot more points than other people in your main. Placement in subs is purely random, so unless the main has some way of correcting for that imbalance, the people who are placed in lower-scoring subs have no way of catching the leaders. Add to that the situation in my main bracket, which only just filled more than 24 hours after I joined and probably two to three days after it opened, and there is little hope for later-starters to be remotely competitive in this PVE. When I joined, I was 20k behind the leader in my bracket. Now I'm 27k behind. If it weren't for trying to help my alliance stay in the top-100, I wouldn't even be bothering.

I'm not saying that I support such crazy rubber-banding that makes the last two hours wipe out everything that has come before, but I am sick and tired of the Devs changing the format of events without giving us any idea what the ending is going to be like.

I thought they changed it back a while ago to be off the global leaders, not the sub leaders

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noobprime wrote:

Has anyone added up what the final nodes in the main add to your final score?
I'm guess-timating about 13K?

Cover Her 520
We're In 640
Have It Your Way 760
Hopped Up Mutants 1000
X-Men Reunion 1120
Crime Boss 1240
The Meeting IX 1360
The Who 1480
Peek A Boo 1480
Coffee Break 1720
Business Partners 1720
You Again 1960

Grand Total: 15000

Unknown

You know.... when did anyone EVER say that what we needed for more "fun" on that CMags + Hood fight was World Ruptures and Supernovas?

mags1587

Lyrian wrote:

You know.... when did anyone EVER say that what we needed for more "fun" on that CMags + Hood fight was World Ruptures and Supernovas?

And here's another reason I'm very happy I don't need the points from that node.

I just hit 40000 to get my Deadpool cover. "The Who" or "Business Partners" are still untouched and likely to stay that way. I don't need Spidey covers and my alliance is taking it easy this PvE (though apparently "taking it easy" means 38th place atm) so I think I'm bowing out of this PvE.

IReallyHatePVP

So Lab sub just finished up, and it looks like Scotland yard is loading next.

Why? The intel goal has been met. Are we just making trouble for the Hood and his Maggia crones now?

And why are the main nodes no-repeat red checks?

Does anyone remember the point of this whole thing?

Unknown

Is anyone missing rewards from the last sub-event that finished? I should have finished in the top 50 for a Thick as Thieves token, some ISO and some Hero points. All of those are precious as gold to me as my account is under two weeks.