POLL: Team-Up Modifications (RESTARTED)

Unknown

If I had a dime for every World Rupture the AI has dropped on me, I'd be rich. Then followed up by a nice Adamantium Slash or something along those lines.. and the AI is made up of level 40 guys blowing away my level 166 team. TU is broken, the AI gets a seemingly infinite amount to drop as many times as they like. I don't use my TU, as the few times I've equipped them, I hardly ever get enough TU points to use them and if I do get to actually use it, there's one guy left with 100 health. I use it at that point anyways just to burn the stupid card, only to get a Level 1 Thor Thunder.. WOOT!

Unknown

One issue looks so be that random defenses can use any team-up. Players can only use ones that are dropped and that is dependent on other players using certain characters to be able to find such team-ups so there is certainly a rarity component to many powers. Would deceptive tactics be a great power to have in the toolbox when needed, absolutely. But good luck finding an enemy GSBW these days, and even better luck getting that one power to drop.

The AI can use any tool with mostly equal frequency (albeit badly sometimes) but the player is limited to the tools he can find, which really limits this feature. I wouldn't mind so much if there wasn't the obvious disparity between the way the players and AI use this feature but clearly this is another example of "the house always wins"

Pylgrim

Agreed that defending teams seem to be getting World Rupture OR Onslaught OR Devour every single game. It is quite ridiculous, especially seeing how in a victory you almost invariably will be rewarded the worst TU-able skill that team had.

Unknown

Just had a match where AI cast two times Fury TU even it had just one. (Others it had were Storm and Sentry...)
Just stupid. And now that you get TU, (usually dont, mine are always full of **** ones) you never get any free boosts after game! That is so sad. Is it intended?

Unknown

check out this whopper: i just lost a pvp match in the category 5 event. here's how: I downed mostorm...and on the next enemy turn a very high level teamup hail storm was activated. my team did not have enough health to survive many turns. how is it that we cant bring in team up powers of characters already in the team, but the AI can?

D3P2K5

Can we add one more thing to the list?
Vote to get rid of Team Up all together and revert back to the old environment system?
All Team Up has done is favor the AI. As so many have said, the AI gets favorable low AP cost TUs hence is able to fire off multiples during a match while we are lucky to even fire one off. Further to this, the TU feature obstructs the use of Boosts as each one takes up a boost place holder.

Nonce Equitaur 2

One item really predominates here. But many of these suggestions are popular -- it'll be good to see which ones get implemented.

Unknown

It seems like an okay system at its core, but I hate reassigning my team-ups each fight. I want the same powers to be assigned for each match I play until they have been used, or I manually de-select them. It's habitual for me to skip through the boost screen, and even when I remember I have to scroll all over the place and reassign my team-ups. Very annoying.

Also, a few questions about the mechanics. How are AI team-ups determined in PVP? Is it completely random, or am I facing the team-ups that were last assigned by the player themselves (similar to how defensive teams are set)?

In any case, I liked the environment tiles better. The powers just needed to be a bit more potent. Also, my dream of using a maxed Mohawk Storm in the desert is now dust. Quite sad about that.

Hopefully, they use forum feedback to help right the ship rather than having enemy Sentry's cast World Rapture until the end of time.

Unknown

ekloff wrote:

Also, a few questions about the mechanics. How are AI team-ups determined in PVP? Is it completely random, or am I facing the team-ups that were last assigned by the player themselves (similar to how defensive teams are set)?

this...

I've been operating under the assumption that what I bring in is what's used, (which can be annoying when I just speed click on fight without remembering to select team ups) but reading this thread, it seems that players are saying that they are experiencing the AI using team ups that should be locked out (ie, team ups of powers from the covers used in the fight) against them, which implies that the AI is randomly selecting them. If that's the case, I'd love to know if they are selecting from my pool of 20 team ups or from all team ups available (the huge list posted earlier)

thoughts? or better yet, facts?

-the Yellowdart.

Unknown

There are no facts, as those would require communication.

Based on the number of 94-94 teams that I have faced in PvP with a lvl94 Chemical Reaction or lvl94 World Rupture, I would guess 1 of the following has to be true.

1. They are fully random, but scaled to your opponent team level.

2. They are drawn from your opponents pool of 20, but scaled to their level.

I would bet the house on #1 (if I was a gambling man, that is), simply because almost everybody is stuck with a bunch of Yelena/Bullseye/Moonstone teamups and those are rarely on my opponents list.

Rethel

I would vote for "Get rid of Team-Ups"

They're just a terrible addition to the game. Before, when I would be deciding who to fight in PvP, I could plan ahead. If I was fighting a Patch/C.Mags team I could come at it one way, if I was fighting an oBW or Hood team I could come at it another, but team-ups add a complete luck/random factor that I just can't plan for. I've lost a considerable amount of rounds that I otherwise should not have lost just due to this. Had one earlier where it was a Patch/C.Mags team and I got blasted with a L5 Berserker Rage and then a Loki Trickery Team-up right after it, out of nowhere. How am I supposed to strategize and plan ahead for that going into the fight?

Was winning a fight the other day, was down to a LazyCap and he was about dead, when wham - high level Rage of the Panther out of left field. Wiped my team. Again, how do I plan for that?

At least with Environment tiles I knew what was coming along with the three people I was up against. Team-ups are absurd and kill the strategy of the game. Especially since the AI fields three of them at random. Ridiculous.

Unknown

I voted for :

1. Delete / Sell / Refuse option for powers.
3. For AI teams, cap level of powers to max character level.
7. Make extreme powers like World Rupture rare for the AI teams.
10. For AI teams with no 3* characters, no 3* powers.

1 - Please, please, just implement number 1. If they say Prologue Healing was boring and toxic to the game, so is entering prologue matches, matching TU tiles over and over just to get rid of powers you don't want/can't use/are useless.

7 - This too. I think i was against Ares, Venom and Moonstone and suddenly i get hit by a Supernova. Seriously, ****? Ok, i can concede i probably should have checked what were their TUs and denied some, but come on...this is insane, especially in nodes with Hard/Deadly difficulties.

10 - Yes, please. Teams with full goons shouldn't even have TUs.