Kolence said: I'm not convinced. In that video, Gritty side was down to 3 strike tiles after 3 moves. That was a relatively lucky board, albeit, the attacker brought SWitch along, presumably for her cascade potential, which paid off nicely that time.Anyway, I agree with Polares about what makes a team OP. I've seen a player with 15+ champed 5-stars (including the best ones) climb and float in the Avengers pvp recently with something like 420 Kitty and Rocket and Bishop champed. Both of them were not boosted in that event too. That player finished the event in top 10, CL 9. Bishop is super broken, against 5-star players. If the solution for a 5-star roster to fight a Bishop team in pvp is using your 4-stars instead of 5-stars, something is wrong, because the rest of how the game works, will punish you for it.Kitty isn't broken at all, without instant strike tiles from the get go. Sure, with special tile spammers, she'd still be very good, but nowhere near as punishing as with Rocket currently. Her purple can also be a bit of a problem against some older 5-stars, but I guess that's power creep so it's ok... All Rocket needs to have changed is start the match with 0 strike tiles (or at least under 4 or better yet 3, for Kitty + X-Men) and make 7-9 by turn 4 and then make no more. So pve would require more time? That's more of a separate issue to me, but even so, it would be 2 or 3 more moves per match. And considering many rosters take more time between consecutive matches out of actual fight, I don't see it as bad. To me, the mind numbing repetitiveness of pve is a much bigger problem.
jp1 said: It seems pretty cut and dry here.Do you have Kitty/Rocket/Bishop? Yes - You are against the nerf unless you also have Okoye/Thor. No - You are pro nerf as long as it doesn’t hit your roster and choice team. Okoye/Thor don’t need a nerf because....reasons.?.?.Of course I’m making a huge generalization there that won’t cover everyone. You can absolutely smell the sour grapes though. What do those smell like again?Boy, I don’t envy the Demiurge team for this game if they have to address all this at their meetings. No wonder we can’t get all the other new stuff we want. I would hesitate to put out anything good/useful as well when this is the feedback they get.
Neuromancer said: Spud is correct, it's better to hope for a new character that will introduce a balance. I'd rather the devs pressed on with a fix that included added content rather than mulling over spilled milk.
helix72 said: I have a champed Grocket, and a barely usable 1/1/1 Kitty. For me and I suspect a higher percentage of the MPQ player base, nerfing Grocket would affect a lot more people than nerfing Kitty.Here are two ideas:1) Give her "the Gambit": at the start of turn, if one does not exist, Kitty makes a fortified 3-turn CD tile that strengthens all friendly Strike, Attack, or Protect tiles on the board when it expires. Slows her down but removes the "must have 4" restriction.2) For 8 Yellow Kitty becomes invisible. While invisible, increase the strength of 1 random friendly special tile by (insert number here) each turn.I realize those of you who love Gritty will think these are both bad ideas...
tiomono said:And nobody will hesitate to attack kitty without grocket present. That is pretty telling that kitty is not the bigger issue in this duo.
jp1 said: helix72 said: I have a champed Grocket, and a barely usable 1/1/1 Kitty. For me and I suspect a higher percentage of the MPQ player base, nerfing Grocket would affect a lot more people than nerfing Kitty.Here are two ideas:1) Give her "the Gambit": at the start of turn, if one does not exist, Kitty makes a fortified 3-turn CD tile that strengthens all friendly Strike, Attack, or Protect tiles on the board when it expires. Slows her down but removes the "must have 4" restriction.2) For 8 Yellow Kitty becomes invisible. While invisible, increase the strength of 1 random friendly special tile by (insert number here) each turn.I realize those of you who love Gritty will think these are both bad ideas... That’s a nerf sledgehammer. We don’t need more 3 turn CDs in 5 star land, they have proven weak and unreliable.Generally, there isn’t any way to “nerf” Kitty without completely reworking her to make her more useful without Rockets attack tiles. We all know that will result in a useless character.I almost never see anyone with Okoye/Thor champs running Kitty teams, that should say all that needs to be said about the current meta.Sidenote:4 Thanos, Meh Hulk, Dazzler, BSSM, GE Doom (to some extent), Hela (to some extent), 5 Thanos, 5 DD, and Thorkoye are all relevant in combating Kitty/Rocket. That’s just a small selection of teams I’ve had beat me in PVP more than once. I think some folks are just ignoring the solutions to combat this team as it is.