Straycat said: Ah I knew I should have been hoarding support tokens. Oh well, I would have only had like 4 saved up in the past 6 months anyway
DAZ0273 said: Straycat said: Ah I knew I should have been hoarding support tokens. Oh well, I would have only had like 4 saved up in the past 6 months anyway Has it even been possible to hoard Support tokens? They seem so rare.
Dormammu said: The devs get a lot of flack from us players here on the forums, so they deserve to know that this looks like a welcome addition to the game and a much-needed improvement to support availability. A lot of work obviously went into this which no doubt explains the long delay in getting here, but I'm happy to see more/new events tied into this rather than simply adjusting token numbers and odds.Thank you for listening to us.
Pr0spect0r said: DAZ0273 said: Straycat said: Ah I knew I should have been hoarding support tokens. Oh well, I would have only had like 4 saved up in the past 6 months anyway Has it even been possible to hoard Support tokens? They seem so rare. Yes it is. I have 42 of them. They could have been 42 4* covers
bluewolf said: Pr0spect0r said: DAZ0273 said: Straycat said: Ah I knew I should have been hoarding support tokens. Oh well, I would have only had like 4 saved up in the past 6 months anyway Has it even been possible to hoard Support tokens? They seem so rare. Yes it is. I have 42 of them. They could have been 42 4* covers The hoarded tokens now do the same thing they have always done - open from a pool of 18 Supports and (likely) give you riso for the duplicates. In the near future, the amount of riso from dupes will go down. So whether you hoarded or not is basically a non-issue since they aren't updating the Support pool that the current in-game Support tokens pull from. You should open hoarded tokens now if you would like more riso vs waiting until after the compensation drops.Also, it's splitting hairs, but the Support tokens replaced 2's (and I think a 3) in the event vaults. The odds of drawing a 4 or LT have remained the same before and after the Support tokens were added.
However, they are playing with the odds that make non-Legendary Support tokens more valuable - they are increasing the chances of getting a higher level support out of the beginner and advanced tokens. Since RIso isn't really a problem, I'm going to hoard my 11 tokens until the change goes through - I definitely could use proportionately more 3s and 4s.
As far as Support Tokens vs 4*s, you're correct in that they did replace lower level characters, but the Support Tokens are as rare as 4*s so it's hard not to think of them that way.
RickOShay said: I'm very surprised that it sounds like so many were/are hoarding support tokens. I guess that was a small risk in hopes individualized-supports would have entered the main pool at some point. Also I'd like to make a prediction: At least 1 out of 7 people will be disappointed about the chosen day that the support circuit will be run.
bluewolf said: @GrimSkald If you look at the first page, Ice confirmed that the stored tokens willnot be changed in any way - including the odds of a rank 4 - except for the decreased riso sell back. Saving your tokens past the update will only be a negative for you.
Mr_Curtains said: Regarding this statement:Like any Stockpiled tokens, players can still redeem unopened Vault tokens after the 4 week period ends, but those tokens will not carry over to the next Support Circuit vault.Can you clarify if it means unopened Vault tokens will be forfeited when the next Support Circuit vault opens or they will remain in your pile forever (just not carried over)? IOW, you could have unopened Vault tokens hoarded for Support Circuit vault 1, 2, 3, etc.
bluewolf said: Pr0spect0r said: DAZ0273 said: Straycat said: Ah I knew I should have been hoarding support tokens. Oh well, I would have only had like 4 saved up in the past 6 months anyway Has it even been possible to hoard Support tokens? They seem so rare. Yes it is. I have 42 of them. They could have been 42 4* covers Also, it's splitting hairs, but the Support tokens replaced 2's (and I think a 3) in the event vaults. The odds of drawing a 4 or LT have remained the same before and after the Support tokens were added.
GrimSkald said: bluewolf said: @GrimSkald If you look at the first page, Ice confirmed that the stored tokens willnot be changed in any way - including the odds of a rank 4 - except for the decreased riso sell back. Saving your tokens past the update will only be a negative for you. Brigby appears to say that explicitly, yes. Meh, it's not a big deal either way, I may hoard just out of curiosity.
IceIX said: Punter1 said: Any dates on when this will be live? Also the circuit event, is that going to act similar to DPD? Soon (tm).Support Circuit is kind of like Deadpool Daily, yes. However, it runs one day a week while DDQ runs every day. Support Circuit is also a placement event while DDQ is solo. Both have progression rewards in either case.
Punter1 said: Any dates on when this will be live? Also the circuit event, is that going to act similar to DPD?
IceIX said:Support Circuit is kind of like Deadpool Daily, yes. However, it runs one day a week while DDQ runs every day. Support Circuit is also a placement event while DDQ is solo. Both have progression rewards in either case.
Spudgutter said: reduced riso for dupes doesn't make sense, and is contrary to an update. the values that they are being diminished aren't that considerable, sure, and we are presumed to be getting more tokens = more dupes, but it goes back to; why reduce them at all? it takes 387000 to go from rank 1 to rank 200. i now need 93 2* dupes versus 55. for just one support. out of 48. a number that continues to grow.
Pr0spect0r said: bluewolf said: Pr0spect0r said: DAZ0273 said: Straycat said: Ah I knew I should have been hoarding support tokens. Oh well, I would have only had like 4 saved up in the past 6 months anyway Has it even been possible to hoard Support tokens? They seem so rare. Yes it is. I have 42 of them. They could have been 42 4* covers Also, it's splitting hairs, but the Support tokens replaced 2's (and I think a 3) in the event vaults. The odds of drawing a 4 or LT have remained the same before and after the Support tokens were added. Correct but also due to how they are placed in the vault they moved them in the location that used to house the 4 star covers. And based on how I believe someone interpreted or translated the mechanism behind vaults the location pulls aren't random but the covers in those locations are.
jamesh said: Pr0spect0r said: bluewolf said: Pr0spect0r said: DAZ0273 said: Straycat said: Ah I knew I should have been hoarding support tokens. Oh well, I would have only had like 4 saved up in the past 6 months anyway Has it even been possible to hoard Support tokens? They seem so rare. Yes it is. I have 42 of them. They could have been 42 4* covers Also, it's splitting hairs, but the Support tokens replaced 2's (and I think a 3) in the event vaults. The odds of drawing a 4 or LT have remained the same before and after the Support tokens were added. Correct but also due to how they are placed in the vault they moved them in the location that used to house the 4 star covers. And based on how I believe someone interpreted or translated the mechanism behind vaults the location pulls aren't random but the covers in those locations are. By that same logic, if you've pulled 4* covers from the vault they would have been 3* covers without supports.If we assume the PRNG is fair, then any choice should be equally likely and position doesn't matter. They could shuffle the vault contents and it shouldn't make a difference to your long term results.