aesthetocyst said: legeng said: I have no interest in getting to the 5* tier right now. They are really hard to get and I am never going to champ the best heroes so why even bother? Most of the old 5* are tinykitty tier and the latest are not far from that.If you started playing this game and missed the BP Thanos ship, you may as well not even bother. Champing classics? Have you seen the math in that mess? By the time I would be able to cover and champ the good ones this game will be long gone.So unless they fundamentally change how we get 5* the 5* tier is meant for veterans (and not any veterans, just the ones that were there at the right time) and whales. I am not part of either group so I am doomed.This means that I am going to be forever be playing at scl7 in PVE and staying the tinykitty away from 5* mmr in PVP. I may roster them if I have the HP. But leveling them? Not quite likely. Thats the spirit.___________Just because if youre starting on 5s now you cant generate enough CP to cover the tier and overcome the release rate is a reason to quit?____________C'mon, man. I covered OML vis Classics just last week. True story. It can be done._____________Missing BP and Thano5 means you should quit???Im sure the rest of your roster will attest to that. None of those losers were ever meta. Nooooooo, sir.I trust you quit then?Probably did. Probably not even reading this.Oh damn .... Im missing BP and Thano5, too!!![ * * * QUITS * * * ]_________________You will eventually level your 5s. And be glad you did. And feel silly for having not done.
legeng said: I have no interest in getting to the 5* tier right now. They are really hard to get and I am never going to champ the best heroes so why even bother? Most of the old 5* are tinykitty tier and the latest are not far from that.If you started playing this game and missed the BP Thanos ship, you may as well not even bother. Champing classics? Have you seen the math in that mess? By the time I would be able to cover and champ the good ones this game will be long gone.So unless they fundamentally change how we get 5* the 5* tier is meant for veterans (and not any veterans, just the ones that were there at the right time) and whales. I am not part of either group so I am doomed.This means that I am going to be forever be playing at scl7 in PVE and staying the tinykitty away from 5* mmr in PVP. I may roster them if I have the HP. But leveling them? Not quite likely.
Orion said: The biggest problem with 5*s was their hugely negative impact on PvE scaling. That problem has been fixed. Now there's still the issue with PvP MMR and your inability to use anything but 5*s in PvP. If that doesn't bother you, then there's no reason to not use 5*s.I could see you rostering 5*s and not leveling them. That made a lot of sense before and probably still does. But to just sell them for 2k ISO? What happens when the 5* tier gets "fixed"? Everyone starts leveling their 5*s and you're starting from scratch? It's a bold strategy, let's see if it works out for you.
Tony Foot said: aesthetocyst said: legeng said: I have no interest in getting to the 5* tier right now. They are really hard to get and I am never going to champ the best heroes so why even bother? Most of the old 5* are tinykitty tier and the latest are not far from that.If you started playing this game and missed the BP Thanos ship, you may as well not even bother. Champing classics? Have you seen the math in that mess? By the time I would be able to cover and champ the good ones this game will be long gone.So unless they fundamentally change how we get 5* the 5* tier is meant for veterans (and not any veterans, just the ones that were there at the right time) and whales. I am not part of either group so I am doomed.This means that I am going to be forever be playing at scl7 in PVE and staying the tinykitty away from 5* mmr in PVP. I may roster them if I have the HP. But leveling them? Not quite likely. Thats the spirit.___________Just because if youre starting on 5s now you cant generate enough CP to cover the tier and overcome the release rate is a reason to quit?____________C'mon, man. I covered OML vis Classics just last week. True story. It can be done._____________Missing BP and Thano5 means you should quit???Im sure the rest of your roster will attest to that. None of those losers were ever meta. Nooooooo, sir.I trust you quit then?Probably did. Probably not even reading this.Oh damn .... Im missing BP and Thano5, too!!![ * * * QUITS * * * ]_________________You will eventually level your 5s. And be glad you did. And feel silly for having not done. No need for so much snark. Bad week?I think the confusion is the difference between getting them and levelling them or selling them. I wouldn't sell them, I roster them but I won't be taking them past 255 either. The game is repetitive enough without limiting your roster by taking two or three up. I play a fair bit, every single pve to max and pvp to 575 and sim and dpd. That's a couple of hours per day. Almost 600cp per season, yet I'm a mile away from any 5 stars. If if I did get lucky like you and get one to 13 it really wouldn't do me any favours, neither would a second or third. My pvp experience would go from a fun variety to wheeling out the same tired two every event. The same as I had to when I got my first 2 or 3 four stars. The difference with the 5 star tier is it could take me another 18 months to get another to 13, the four star route I could at least see a light at the end of the tunnel.Its worked for you, play in a way that makes you happy, the four star game is fun for me, I can happily ignore any purple token until I have 5+ at 13 or the game opens up to more of them.
Tony Foot said: Yes as a pve experience that would be fun but the 4 star teams would all but dissolve leaving me with 5 star teams in pvp?That is exactly what happened to me in moving from two to three and then three to four.
You can totally run 340+ buffed 4s in PVP next to 5s.I ran 352 Medusa with Bolt to 1200+ on first shield in all 3 PVPs last week.
Bowgentle said: Tony Foot said: Yes as a pve experience that would be fun but the 4 star teams would all but dissolve leaving me with 5 star teams in pvp?That is exactly what happened to me in moving from two to three and then three to four. You can totally run 340+ buffed 4s in PVP next to 5s.I ran 352 Medusa with Bolt to 1200+ on first shield in all 3 PVPs last week.
CT1888 said: Bowgentle said: Tony Foot said: Yes as a pve experience that would be fun but the 4 star teams would all but dissolve leaving me with 5 star teams in pvp?That is exactly what happened to me in moving from two to three and then three to four. You can totally run 340+ buffed 4s in PVP next to 5s.I ran 352 Medusa with Bolt to 1200+ on first shield in all 3 PVPs last week. Yes, but most people are a long way off of 340+ level 4*s. I've had Carol as my sole 4* BH'ed for a couple of months to try and get her there, and she's only just about to hit 320.On the flip; don't want to champ 5*s just now? Take one or two up to 360 and they can still be fun to play without changing mmr if you have plenty of 4* champs.
mexus said: Am I the only one that refuses the 5* aspect of this game?I still haven't played a year, and is building my 4*'s up by now with more than two handfull 4* champions as we speak.I have come across a few 5* covers, of course, but nothing about 5* interest me. Reading daily about bad cover odds, badly balanced characters, etc. etc. I have decided that 4* is enough for me. Any 5* cover I pick is another 2000 ISO-8.I'm also suspecting I would't be able to handle all the negative aspects of 5* game without becoming a huge spender.Anyone with me?
entrailbucket said: Unlike a lot of the other vets, I don't have any problem with people who aren't interested in levelling up their roster for whatever reason. It's your roster, and you're free to do whatever you like with it!The only problem I have is the idea that people who do this should be able to win anything, ever. Every mode in this game is a competition, and if you choose to opt out of competing, the good rewards should be off-limits to you.Luckily the recent pve changes seem to have put an end to the one game mode where unleveled rosters can win stuff. Enjoy your top 100 placement, guys!
aesthetocyst said: Dormammu said:....You say that like playing at the 5-star level is a choice. None of us are 'competing' for 5-star covers. Excellent!Please maintain that mindset and spread it around.
Dormammu said:....You say that like playing at the 5-star level is a choice. None of us are 'competing' for 5-star covers.
Phumade said: DesertTortoise said: I'll reassess where I stand but currently the 4-star game is the most fun I've had playing. The 4* tier is fun because you have the width to play all the fun combos.The 5* tier is the exact same thing with more powers and better match damage.There are what 15- 20 5* chars?Once you have a decent brigade (Over 1/3 or 5 chars), the 5* tier overall is much more fun interesting and rewarding than the 4* tier. That should be no surprise because that the same transtion that 3* to 4* went through.
DesertTortoise said: I'll reassess where I stand but currently the 4-star game is the most fun I've had playing.
Dormammu said: entrailbucket said: Unlike a lot of the other vets, I don't have any problem with people who aren't interested in levelling up their roster for whatever reason. It's your roster, and you're free to do whatever you like with it!The only problem I have is the idea that people who do this should be able to win anything, ever. Every mode in this game is a competition, and if you choose to opt out of competing, the good rewards should be off-limits to you.Luckily the recent pve changes seem to have put an end to the one game mode where unleveled rosters can win stuff. Enjoy your top 100 placement, guys! You say that like playing at the 5-star level is a choice. None of us are 'competing' for 5-star covers.
entrailbucket said: Dormammu said: entrailbucket said: Unlike a lot of the other vets, I don't have any problem with people who aren't interested in levelling up their roster for whatever reason. It's your roster, and you're free to do whatever you like with it!The only problem I have is the idea that people who do this should be able to win anything, ever. Every mode in this game is a competition, and if you choose to opt out of competing, the good rewards should be off-limits to you.Luckily the recent pve changes seem to have put an end to the one game mode where unleveled rosters can win stuff. Enjoy your top 100 placement, guys! You say that like playing at the 5-star level is a choice. None of us are 'competing' for 5-star covers. Except this thread (titled "Refusing 5*") is specifically about people choosing to sell or not level the 5* characters that they do get. While you may not be able to choose to move to 5*, you can certainly choose to *not* move to 5*, and that's who I'm addressing here.
Dormammu said: entrailbucket said: Dormammu said: entrailbucket said: Unlike a lot of the other vets, I don't have any problem with people who aren't interested in levelling up their roster for whatever reason. It's your roster, and you're free to do whatever you like with it!The only problem I have is the idea that people who do this should be able to win anything, ever. Every mode in this game is a competition, and if you choose to opt out of competing, the good rewards should be off-limits to you.Luckily the recent pve changes seem to have put an end to the one game mode where unleveled rosters can win stuff. Enjoy your top 100 placement, guys! You say that like playing at the 5-star level is a choice. None of us are 'competing' for 5-star covers. Except this thread (titled "Refusing 5*") is specifically about people choosing to sell or not level the 5* characters that they do get. While you may not be able to choose to move to 5*, you can certainly choose to *not* move to 5*, and that's who I'm addressing here. The OPer also states they have played for less than a year and has 'a few' 5-star covers. I'm only guessing here, but it sounds like his 'choice' isn't a choice at all.