Moral wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: Celerity wrote: So, compared to Punisher, we have... Health: Exactly the same Black: 6AP for 1k single target damage and 231 instant attack tile vs 7AP for 550 AoE damage and 113 delayed attack tile Strike tiles: 8AP red for 1k damage + 192 strike vs 8AP green for ~300 damage + 300 strike Third ability: Mediocre AP steal vs mediocre damage skill They seem pretty well balanced to me. Punisher is clearly going to be better against high HP targets, but Psylocke actually has one of the best reds in the game now, and there are lots of other characters with good green skills that she could be paired with. Psylocke/Hulk would be a better combo than Punisher/Hulk, for example. I think retribution has far more utility than the AP steal ability. While Retribution's damage ratio isn't great, its invaluable when its taking 8k off of that 230 buffed Hulk. On average against 141 people with 5.8k it'll be ~2.3k damage for 8AP, which is still reasonable, and it only scales up from there when you're facing buffed or high level PvE heroes. Judgement's tile destruction limits how many special tiles he can maintain. By the time I get more than 6 on the board, I'm smashing 1-2 to gain 3.
NorthernPolarity wrote: Celerity wrote: So, compared to Punisher, we have... Health: Exactly the same Black: 6AP for 1k single target damage and 231 instant attack tile vs 7AP for 550 AoE damage and 113 delayed attack tile Strike tiles: 8AP red for 1k damage + 192 strike vs 8AP green for ~300 damage + 300 strike Third ability: Mediocre AP steal vs mediocre damage skill They seem pretty well balanced to me. Punisher is clearly going to be better against high HP targets, but Psylocke actually has one of the best reds in the game now, and there are lots of other characters with good green skills that she could be paired with. Psylocke/Hulk would be a better combo than Punisher/Hulk, for example. I think retribution has far more utility than the AP steal ability. While Retribution's damage ratio isn't great, its invaluable when its taking 8k off of that 230 buffed Hulk. On average against 141 people with 5.8k it'll be ~2.3k damage for 8AP, which is still reasonable, and it only scales up from there when you're facing buffed or high level PvE heroes.
Celerity wrote: So, compared to Punisher, we have... Health: Exactly the same Black: 6AP for 1k single target damage and 231 instant attack tile vs 7AP for 550 AoE damage and 113 delayed attack tile Strike tiles: 8AP red for 1k damage + 192 strike vs 8AP green for ~300 damage + 300 strike Third ability: Mediocre AP steal vs mediocre damage skill They seem pretty well balanced to me. Punisher is clearly going to be better against high HP targets, but Psylocke actually has one of the best reds in the game now, and there are lots of other characters with good green skills that she could be paired with. Psylocke/Hulk would be a better combo than Punisher/Hulk, for example.
Thanos wrote: Btw, are you the same celerity that used to stream MTGO on twitch?
Celerity wrote: Thanos wrote: Btw, are you the same celerity that used to stream MTGO on twitch? That's me.
Toxicadam wrote: Her blue has been bumped up to 10 AP according to the latest patch. Someone make a thread that they are going quit the game over this change.
nadarath wrote: Moral wrote: NorthernPolarity wrote: Celerity wrote: So, compared to Punisher, we have... Health: Exactly the same Black: 6AP for 1k single target damage and 231 instant attack tile vs 7AP for 550 AoE damage and 113 delayed attack tile Strike tiles: 8AP red for 1k damage + 192 strike vs 8AP green for ~300 damage + 300 strike Third ability: Mediocre AP steal vs mediocre damage skill They seem pretty well balanced to me. Punisher is clearly going to be better against high HP targets, but Psylocke actually has one of the best reds in the game now, and there are lots of other characters with good green skills that she could be paired with. Psylocke/Hulk would be a better combo than Punisher/Hulk, for example. I think retribution has far more utility than the AP steal ability. While Retribution's damage ratio isn't great, its invaluable when its taking 8k off of that 230 buffed Hulk. On average against 141 people with 5.8k it'll be ~2.3k damage for 8AP, which is still reasonable, and it only scales up from there when you're facing buffed or high level PvE heroes. Judgement's tile destruction limits how many special tiles he can maintain. By the time I get more than 6 on the board, I'm smashing 1-2 to gain 3. That is exactly opposite. Judgmnet destruction makes this skill even better. It gives much needed board clear. And you would be surprised how often it does not touch any strike tiles. I say Judgment is at the moment superior strike tile skill.
bronco10 wrote: From an Agent with MID leveled characters here...(disregard if you have characters in the 100s on your roster) Honestly, I think she's badass. Well done, developers. She's extremely fast. She works well with other players that put out strike tiles. This way her Red attack gets lowered while still doing a burst of damage. I think her with Patch is solid for attacking. He get's his Green off, adds strike tiles, and if you have her Red lower than Patchs Red, then you still have best of both worlds. Black doing that much damage that fast?! Fantastic. After reading most of the comments here, let me say to other Mid Level Agents, she's good. But a bunch of the users posting on here have reallly good teams so I understand that they don't want find Psylocke that appealing.
DaloneWolf wrote: She is definitely useful for this event though. Will help me land all 3 Black cat covers
soenottelling wrote: Her red felt a bit lackluster to me honestly. You kinda feel obligated to hold onto enough red to drop.it twice before using it to make sure you get at least one lowered red via the strike tile. 15 ap therefore is giving you about 2k damage and 2 almost 200 damage strike tiles at max. Not bad, but that same 15ap can.do a lot elsewhere on a team.
ihearthawthats wrote: DaloneWolf wrote: She is definitely useful for this event though. Will help me land all 3 Black cat covers Thanks for making me sad. I'd have much prefered having Black Cat over Black Panther.
Celerity wrote: soenottelling wrote: Her red felt a bit lackluster to me honestly. You kinda feel obligated to hold onto enough red to drop.it twice before using it to make sure you get at least one lowered red via the strike tile. 15 ap therefore is giving you about 2k damage and 2 almost 200 damage strike tiles at max. Not bad, but that same 15ap can.do a lot elsewhere on a team. I agree with most of your assessment, but what do you mean about wanting to save enough red for two in a row? I assume you'd get a lot more damage by using it right away in combination with the black rather than worrying about maybe saving 1 red AP down the line. 14AP (8 red/6 black) = 2.2k damage + 400 attack tile damage = 2.6k single target damage total, plus 400 for every turn the tiles stick around. With Punisher, it's: 15AP = ~300 damage + 2500 AoE damage = only about 1100 single target damage total, then wait 3 turns before you start getting the 400 damage per turn. The extra match you need for the black plus the three turns you have to wait for the attack tiles means you might lose ~1500 damage total compared to the Psylocke combo. Even while I was using her at level 20 with 1 black cover (powered up, but still really low damage), her black outdamaged Punisher's black after Judgement simply because it triggered the strike tiles so much earlier than Punisher could. More importantly, the damage is concentrated on one character, which is way more efficient than AoE, especially in this meta when you really just need to kill a Patch quickly. She's an assassin, and she fits her role well. I think people are severely underrating this character.