MissChinch wrote: Warbringa wrote: MissChinch wrote: Warbringa wrote: .... Something to keep in mind, you don't get to just elect to receive one specific characters cover, so you're essentially working on all 14 (or 13 if you remove bagman) in parallel... Even if you went at your pace of 4-5 months, you average that out: 13(5 heroic tokens, 3 guaranteed 3* covers, 5CP and 375HC) comes out to: 65 heroic tokens, 39 3* covers, 65CP and 4875 HC which taken per month equates to: 13 to 16.25 heroic tokens, 7.8 to 9.75 3* covers, 13 to 16.25 CP and 975 to 1218.75 HC per month, using the timeframe you stated in your post... So even moving at that speed, it would be nice to know that just by championing and selling 2*s you could keep up with the game releasing a new character per month without worrying about new slots... and get a better than a heroic 10 pack to boot, not to mention the 3* covers and CP... I'd say its worth serious consideration even if you take 4-5 months to max one out (which at the rate 2*s roll in seems extremely casual if you're already in the 3* range, and really quite slow even starting from scratch) but then again I'm a hoarder and don't like having covers for new characters I have to sell because I don't have slots to roster em... I only have maxed out 8 of my 2* and they maxed out all within a week or two of each other. I would have to spend more than that to do so going forward as I already had all of those 2* characters maxed (lvl 94) and a hoard of iso sitting around when championing occurred. In addition, I would suffer having low 2* characters in required PvE as I rebuilt them since I do tend to utilize boosted 2* in several team combinations quite frequently. That iso will that I would spend on farming 2* will be better used to level 4* for Crash of Titans and champing all 3* both for effectiveness and actually seeing progression. I only earn per average 50,000 iso or so per week unless I am grinding...which I have stopped doing for the most part these days. Makes total sense, how one values HC probably plays a part in it too, I'm still new enough to probably be over-valuing it by older account's standards... I dont have any of the dupes I want and am still over 10k HC away from having enough roster spots to roster everyone I want... I have to throttle down my CP and token usage for want of free roster space. I thought it worth working out with the slow timeframe in mind just to show you still get a lot of throughput even in the slowest case... I totally see how its a no-go if the whole idea of the tradeoff doesn't generate value for you (which, if it doesn't, slower is probably better looking than faster anyhow) So its likely better to let evaluation of the rewards and not the timeframe drive the decision.
Warbringa wrote: MissChinch wrote: Warbringa wrote: .... Something to keep in mind, you don't get to just elect to receive one specific characters cover, so you're essentially working on all 14 (or 13 if you remove bagman) in parallel... Even if you went at your pace of 4-5 months, you average that out: 13(5 heroic tokens, 3 guaranteed 3* covers, 5CP and 375HC) comes out to: 65 heroic tokens, 39 3* covers, 65CP and 4875 HC which taken per month equates to: 13 to 16.25 heroic tokens, 7.8 to 9.75 3* covers, 13 to 16.25 CP and 975 to 1218.75 HC per month, using the timeframe you stated in your post... So even moving at that speed, it would be nice to know that just by championing and selling 2*s you could keep up with the game releasing a new character per month without worrying about new slots... and get a better than a heroic 10 pack to boot, not to mention the 3* covers and CP... I'd say its worth serious consideration even if you take 4-5 months to max one out (which at the rate 2*s roll in seems extremely casual if you're already in the 3* range, and really quite slow even starting from scratch) but then again I'm a hoarder and don't like having covers for new characters I have to sell because I don't have slots to roster em... I only have maxed out 8 of my 2* and they maxed out all within a week or two of each other. I would have to spend more than that to do so going forward as I already had all of those 2* characters maxed (lvl 94) and a hoard of iso sitting around when championing occurred. In addition, I would suffer having low 2* characters in required PvE as I rebuilt them since I do tend to utilize boosted 2* in several team combinations quite frequently. That iso will that I would spend on farming 2* will be better used to level 4* for Crash of Titans and champing all 3* both for effectiveness and actually seeing progression. I only earn per average 50,000 iso or so per week unless I am grinding...which I have stopped doing for the most part these days.
MissChinch wrote: Warbringa wrote: .... Something to keep in mind, you don't get to just elect to receive one specific characters cover, so you're essentially working on all 14 (or 13 if you remove bagman) in parallel... Even if you went at your pace of 4-5 months, you average that out: 13(5 heroic tokens, 3 guaranteed 3* covers, 5CP and 375HC) comes out to: 65 heroic tokens, 39 3* covers, 65CP and 4875 HC which taken per month equates to: 13 to 16.25 heroic tokens, 7.8 to 9.75 3* covers, 13 to 16.25 CP and 975 to 1218.75 HC per month, using the timeframe you stated in your post... So even moving at that speed, it would be nice to know that just by championing and selling 2*s you could keep up with the game releasing a new character per month without worrying about new slots... and get a better than a heroic 10 pack to boot, not to mention the 3* covers and CP... I'd say its worth serious consideration even if you take 4-5 months to max one out (which at the rate 2*s roll in seems extremely casual if you're already in the 3* range, and really quite slow even starting from scratch) but then again I'm a hoarder and don't like having covers for new characters I have to sell because I don't have slots to roster em...
Warbringa wrote: ....
mckauhu wrote: Don't you guys think it's better to think the benefits rather than how much is lost during recycling? I mean with every recycling 2*, you get 3 covers for a 3*, lots of iso, hp and cp's and LT
nigelregal wrote: Need to add in the XP rewards for adding levels to champions as well into the equation. For 2* When you go from nothing to a level 144 you gain: - 46 XP getting to 13 covers - 20 XP to champion - 200 XP to go from 94 to 144 = Total of 266 XP for each 2* you flip For 3* it would look like: - 85 XP getting to 13 covers - 50 XP to champion - 1000 XP to go from 166 to 266 - 9XP for heroic tokens - 70 XP for Legendary from CP use and Legendary tokens = Total of 1214 XP for each 3* you flip Assuming you are rank 70 1214 XP is worth ~17,000 ISO
tiberius02478 wrote: Not to rain on everyone's parade, but the numbers have changed (likely because the Devs realized that the players liked it). I have sold several 2* characters at the 65k ISO + 125 HP number. My most recent character to get there is now showing at a paltry 17.4k ISO & 100 HP. So it now costs you ~55k ISO to do that process. Much more painful than ~8k ISO... (NOTE: I don't recall if I sold this character once already or not, so it may be 65k ISO the first time & then 17.4k ISO the second time...) Has anyone else seen this?
bbigler wrote: My 2* Champed Ares at level 138 only sells for 16,900 ISO, so where are you getting 65,000 ISO from?