simonsez wrote: Here's where rankings can get tricky. From what I can tell, the general consensus is that JG is clearly better than XDP, but the pair of XDP and Thing is probably as good as any other pairing you might put together.
GrumpySmurf1002 wrote: I presumed the synergies are incorporated, since the PX-GSBW thing is one of the strongest and on his own PX is probably not quite as good as Kingpin.
Colognoisseur wrote: I updated the character rankings including Jean Grey and X-Force Deadpool. Jean Grey is currently in fourth but there is a real chance she will move up to third. She has a lot of utility and there are a couple of combos with her that I haven't seen others begin to use which might mover her to a solid number three. Right now fourth feels right to me. X-Force Deadpool I have in sixth right after Thing. As someone above suggested if I was ranking pairs of 4* X-Force Deadpool and Thing would be right up there near the top. As a stand alone he doesn't have the overall flexibility of any of the 4*'s in the top four. He is a powerful support with the right partner....and there are more than Thing out there which make X-force Deadpool a gigantic annoyance. The other change is Carnage has moved up ahead of 4* Thor and Ant-Man. Again there are now more advantageous partners for him which makes him more useful more of the time. I'll keep updating these rankings after every two 4* releases after I have some time to play with both the new 4*'s.
Vhailorx wrote: I remain skeptical that Carnage is actually that useful as a scarecrow
Vhailorx wrote: I remain skeptical that Carnage is actually that useful as a scarecrow (disclaimer, it's all thought experiment as I still don't have my carnage in a useful state). He needs a red battery to function well, and the best pvp red batteries are cyclops and IMHB. IMHB's red is straight up better than carnage's in that it can spike much higher and one-shot anyone, and also doesn't do any self damage. Cyclop's red might not be better than carnage's (unless boosted), but it isn't bad, and using it rather than carnage gives you a different character that can do useful things like provide defense or accelerate black. I just don't see how carnage's actual abilities are ever really worth using. And that leaves only his psychological value as a scarecrow.