Lets all be nice to each other.

mageofshadow wrote:

bonfire01 wrote:

I don't get to see the PMs you receive but, TBH, I don't really see the thing you are getting at.

I see a lot of ppl arguing with each other but in all the cases I can think of it was a 2 sided argument rather than someone getting picked on.

I have seen a few ppl getting downvoted for asking questions (not a big fan of that personally but i'm also not the king of reasons to downvote) but i've also seen their questions being answered. I get the impression that my "not caring at all about downvotes" outlook is in the minority though, other ppl seem to take them a lot more personally.

I'll say this though to try and justify what i'm saying.... I posted a thread saying the nerf to Xforce's green essentially wasn't as terrible as ppl thought. I did say I thought it went a bit too far, but was essentially expressing an unpopular opinion. I did, on the other hand, do my best to justify what I said and explain my reasoning (the board shake is pretty damn good and shatter dmg is unchanged. Just a shame they knocked 2k off not 1k). Some ppl agreed with me, some disagreed, some said it was an interesting opinion but they would reserve judgement.

I got 1 downvote....

I don't think ppl shower posts with downvotes because they disagree with the content and I don't think the forum community is some toxic mess. I think ppl are tetchy with the recent barrage of nerfs and are being less tolerant of "lower quality" posts where someone just jumps on, pops out a 2 line post which could be paraphrased as "I don't agree with you, I see no reason to justify this" and that's it. When ppl in favour of the changes don't throw around insults (calling ppl whiners/ragers/kiddies etc) and try to explain their reasoning I haven't personally noticed anything other than discussion... Maybe I don't read enough posts though.....

There is perhaps a biased opinion amongst the mods(we are responsible for dealing with all those who do start breaking the forum rules after all) that things are becoming uncivil on the forums. Since the announcements there has been a significant uptick in bans from us(we still don't ban too much). Hell we had to ban someone for issuing a death threat... Maybe we are wrong but personally I feel like I have not seen much other than rage on the forums lately. Now I am not saying it's wrong. There is a lot to be mad about right now. But I am not also seeing the other side, the "what build are you shooting for now?" posts and I have heard enough from some forum visiters that they are afraid to post or at least don't feel like it would be worth posting. That is what I would like to see change.
Maybe I am wrong and that is not a thing, but if it is I thought it was worth trying to change.

Ban all deaththreaters. Some folks think the internet isn't "serious" and anything you do here is "JUST FOR FUN LOLZ" but studies show if you type that stuff out there's a connection between the actual act

I can agree that the forums are, in general a sounding board for the vast majority of downright **** angry people to vent and that could definitely be cut back, but at the same time, a lot of this has been brought on by the way D3 handles updates and outright ignores issues for far longer than they should. Characters so rarely get changed in any way that people get complacent with them and rank them based on how useful they are, and really that list doesn't change all that much. However, that being said, when a character IS looked at, there's a 50/50 chance of a MASSIVE over-compensation for their abilities, characters that were top tier consistently get completely annihilated while others actually become useful, and that is the bigger problem. When it can take upwards of a year to farm a 4* only to have them very suddenly completely overhauled, means of course you're going to feel cheated. Whereas if every few months one ability or other was tuned to be in-line with other characters of the same rarity, at least you'd know about it well in advance and you could alter your priorities.

It can't honestly be that hard to have 1 person changing AP costs/damage numbers on characters once a month or so, and yet it happens so rarely that the last time someone like 2* Wolverine was looked at was when he was nerfed a year ago, 2* cap has never been a good option and he's been left to rot with Moonstone. I could go on, and on, and on, and I have been for the past few days, and before that, a year ago with the same complaints, but I'll get back to my point... The only way to change how the community responds is to change how you handle the community. Look at feedback and RESPOND, try to implement changes more often than once a year or so, it'll take about 3-4 events to see the results of tweaking characters but small changes more frequently will stop things like this from happening.

It was pretty tasteless to rapid fire off releases as they did, especially during Easter (who wanted to hang out with family anyway?). I can only assume their release schedule was dictated by Marvel or someone that doesn't actually play the game at all and doesn't realize just how much time that will absorb, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt there, but it's all about PR, and from my experiences so far, there's almost no PR, save a couple of people that show up on the forums every now and then.

kidicarus wrote:

mageofshadow wrote:

Every day I have less and less desire to come to these forums. When I started playing this was a great place to get info about the game and discuss new characters and strategies but since the nerfs where announced all I see is posts about how D3/Demiurge is tiny kitty. I have seen fewer and fewer posts from people I used to love to read(when was the last time you saw a post from Northern Polarity?) and I would not be surprised at all to hear that this was because they are receiving hate pm’s after the changes.

Polarity has quit the game and now enjoys the match 3 brilliance of Puzzles and Dragons. A lot of us have been playing this game religiously for more than a year and for many of us, apart from the collect em all pokemon allure of hero/villain covers, this game has not offered anything new for a very long time now. PVE requires more of a time commitment than a full time job and the recent PVP changes which has slowed the game down has not made this game any more fun for all of us. Every season, I have said good bye to many old vets who have just been burnt out from the game.

Believe me when I say a lot of us vets don't really give a **** about upvotes/downvotes on the forums. I'm a big puzzle quest fan and I bought into this based on that brand name. All I can say is that with what I know now, I would think twice about playing another puzzle quest game.

There are a TON of mpq players now playing pad. It's not actually a traditional match-3 like bejeweled but here's why we're flocking there.

You play at your own pace. There's no sense of mandatory grindyness where you fall behind if you miss a refresh. When you get a character, you get the character, not 1/13th. What you earn isn't nerfed. You don't have the feeling that your reward will just be changed shortly after you earn in. But most of all what's missing from MPQ is progression. Someone who started mpq yesterday is playing for the same reward as someone who started 15 months ago. And they actually have a decent chance of getting the reward with a 2* roster vs someone who's maxed everything in the game. There is no sense progression left in mpq.

There may be a sense of hatred or rage from the player base and they probably shouldn't lash out at people directly. The problem is the players feel deceived. Why does every change to the game take out a fun factor and make it seem like a chore? I used to enjoy aspects of the game even when I wasn't at the top end. Now I had to step away because every aspect is tedious. It doesn't have to be this way but the design and reward structure and every nerf takes away a fun element.

Being nice is fine and all but people still need to sound off when the game is neutered. MPQ has always had so much unreached potential left out there. Lets see some of that come to fruition and make the game fun again.

I'll be back only when there's something new that gives it that fun factor because characters 50 to 100 certainly add nothing

LoreNYC wrote:

kidicarus wrote:

mageofshadow wrote:

Every day I have less and less desire to come to these forums. When I started playing this was a great place to get info about the game and discuss new characters and strategies but since the nerfs where announced all I see is posts about how D3/Demiurge is tiny kitty. I have seen fewer and fewer posts from people I used to love to read(when was the last time you saw a post from Northern Polarity?) and I would not be surprised at all to hear that this was because they are receiving hate pm’s after the changes.

Polarity has quit the game and now enjoys the match 3 brilliance of Puzzles and Dragons. A lot of us have been playing this game religiously for more than a year and for many of us, apart from the collect em all pokemon allure of hero/villain covers, this game has not offered anything new for a very long time now. PVE requires more of a time commitment than a full time job and the recent PVP changes which has slowed the game down has not made this game any more fun for all of us. Every season, I have said good bye to many old vets who have just been burnt out from the game.

Believe me when I say a lot of us vets don't really give a **** about upvotes/downvotes on the forums. I'm a big puzzle quest fan and I bought into this based on that brand name. All I can say is that with what I know now, I would think twice about playing another puzzle quest game.

There are a TON of mpq players now playing pad. It's not actually a traditional match-3 like bejeweled but here's why we're flocking there.

You play at your own pace. There's no sense of mandatory grindyness where you fall behind if you miss a refresh. When you get a character, you get the character, not 1/13th. What you earn isn't nerfed. You don't have the feeling that your reward will just be changed shortly after you earn in. But most of all what's missing from MPQ is progression. Someone who started mpq yesterday is playing for the same reward as someone who started 15 months ago. And they actually have a decent chance of getting the reward with a 2* roster vs someone who's maxed everything in the game. There is no sense progression left in mpq.

There may be a sense of hatred or rage from the player base and they probably shouldn't lash out at people directly. The problem is the players feel deceived. Why does every change to the game take out a fun factor and make it seem like a chore? I used to enjoy aspects of the game even when I wasn't at the top end. Now I had to step away because every aspect is tedious. It doesn't have to be this way but the design and reward structure and every nerf takes away a fun element.

Being nice is fine and all but people still need to sound off when the game is neutered. MPQ has always had so much unreached potential left out there. Lets see some of that come to fruition and make the game fun again.

I'll be back only when there's something new that gives it that fun factor because characters 50 to 100 certainly add nothing

You forgot how that one has DC characters