*** Ragnarok (Dark Avengers) ***

ihearthawthats wrote:

show previous quotes

doneskis wrote:

Iron Batman wrote:

So is this how they'll fix the 4* characters? Nerf everyone to oblivion.

Are villains supposed to suck? Mags is the only good one left and that won't last.

I think they need to nerf thor and wolverine next so we see more variety.

Thor could use a nerf to Mjolnir with a simultaneous buff to Call the Storm. This will allow more diverse builds other than 5/5/3 cookie cutter.

Wolvie should adjust his Claws so that it only creates 1 additional strike tile if only his Adamantium Slash is ready. This creates better build diversity between 5/5/3 for offense ot 5/3/5 for defense.

Imo balance should allow not just team and character variety, but also build variety. Even if you fight 3 Thors in a row, it won't be as stale if they each had different builds, thus a slightly different way to fight them.

Yep, might as well go all the way. There should be no "optimal" build and make all builds viable or "balanced". Should have people really think hard what build to go. Punisher/hulk is probably the closest thing to having this kind of debate.

Wish I'd seen it... ah well.

If the "current guidelines" said the old red should've been 12 AP, and 5 AP should be the minimum for any power....

Buckle up. It's going to be a bumpy ride!

Iron Batman wrote:

Are villains supposed to suck? Mags is the only good one left and that won't last.

To be fair, villains are traditionally defeated by friendship, speeches, that captain planet kid with the heart ring, etc.

The lore says they suck.

basically they are redesigning around making the game just beating on each other with autoattacks, and then very occasionally the heros do a move

Aluminium_Man wrote:

show previous quotes

Iron Batman wrote:

Are villains supposed to suck? Mags is the only good one left and that won't last.

To be fair, villains are traditionally defeated by friendship, speeches, that captain planet kid with the heart ring, etc.

The lore says they suck.

Well, except doom. Doom always wins. When he doesn't, its a doombot.

DumDumDugn wrote:

show previous quotes

forgrim wrote:

so essentially expect nerfs in the future for anyone with a less then 5 ap cost ability?

classic mags, wolverine, spiderman are the candidates right off the top of my head

I hope they nerf mags' red if they spare his other abilities

probably fix it so his purple ability does exactly what the tooltip says (which is a nerf)

Sarimrune wrote:

show previous quotes

SUPERTOM wrote:

The difference here is that getting Rags was NOT easy. It took time and effort to level him up and, I for one felt like I earned the fruits of my labor when I finally did. Now this feel like a spit in the face.

Not fun. Not fair.

Agree with this. I worked my tail off to get a Rags with 5 red and now he is nerfed to uselessness. I expected something but not this. It would not hurt so much if it was an easy to get cover they ruined but the only way to get this guy was to pay or spend har earned HP or get a lucky token. They made a ton of cash off of this cover and then take him away.

The good news is that I've been playing way too much since launch and this is my que to exit. I'll watch the forum to see if they do something but I'm out. I won't be missed because I never spent a dime on the game (so glad of that now). It has been fun all and I'll miss the community.

forgrim wrote:

show previous quotes

DumDumDugn wrote:

forgrim wrote:

so essentially expect nerfs in the future for anyone with a less then 5 ap cost ability?

classic mags, wolverine, spiderman are the candidates right off the top of my head

I hope they nerf mags' red if they spare his other abilities

probably fix it so his purple ability does exactly what the tooltip says (which is a nerf)

They already did.

We need a video of Ragnarok (voiced by George Lowe) singing "Wrecking Ball"

Aluminium_Man wrote:

I just remember that they want a minimum 5 AP cost to abilities, and his old thunderclap was equivalent to a 12 AP cost.

DumDumDugn wrote:

If Rags red should be 12AP then Thor's yellow should be 18? Doom's blue should be 22? Widow's green should be 30?

Today (or in a few days) is minimum 5.. after a while it will be "no abilities should be used on first turn" so with bonuses you can get 6AP, meaning this minimum may as well be raised to maybe 7.. or "they should make at least 2x3 or 1x4 matches to use an ability" and raise it to 10.. Whatever happens I don't plan to stay long enough to find out..