a6fan36 wrote: vudu3 wrote: Jimilinho wrote: Really don't understand how some people vote, hood at 8!? Behind black panther and capt A!Hood is easily a top 5 character. Can only assume a lot of you don't play pvp's at the top end. X-Force has trivialized Hood, especially at the top end. Hood used to be scary because he would slow down your game quite a bit. Now, if you have decently-leveled X-Force with 5 green covers you can boost +3 green/black, make two green matches and then one-shot Hood. I used to use Hood for hopping all the time but now if I bring him along it paints a huge target on my back. I don't expect to get any defensive wins with Fury but if I use him when hopping it generally means I can get through 3 fights and reshield before I get attacked. This isn't the case with Hood anymore. I'm getting confused as I still see references to +3 boosts, but I thought those were retired ages ago? Are you just working off of an old stockpile or is there some boosting trick I'm missing?
vudu3 wrote: Jimilinho wrote: Really don't understand how some people vote, hood at 8!? Behind black panther and capt A!Hood is easily a top 5 character. Can only assume a lot of you don't play pvp's at the top end. X-Force has trivialized Hood, especially at the top end. Hood used to be scary because he would slow down your game quite a bit. Now, if you have decently-leveled X-Force with 5 green covers you can boost +3 green/black, make two green matches and then one-shot Hood. I used to use Hood for hopping all the time but now if I bring him along it paints a huge target on my back. I don't expect to get any defensive wins with Fury but if I use him when hopping it generally means I can get through 3 fights and reshield before I get attacked. This isn't the case with Hood anymore.
Jimilinho wrote: Really don't understand how some people vote, hood at 8!? Behind black panther and capt A!Hood is easily a top 5 character. Can only assume a lot of you don't play pvp's at the top end.
Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote: Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote: Some notes on a few characters I think were slightly underrated. 28. 3* Doctor Doom He's #1 in "Most likely to get a good buff." When he returns to tokens with a new third power, I expect him to be excellent against 4-Thor in particular. Called it? I wouldn't yet put Diabolical Plot into the same usefulness level as Mischief, but at least he's got his 3rd power now.
Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote: Some notes on a few characters I think were slightly underrated. 28. 3* Doctor Doom He's #1 in "Most likely to get a good buff." When he returns to tokens with a new third power, I expect him to be excellent against 4-Thor in particular.
mischiefmaker wrote: You might as well put a little sign that says "insert pointy thing here" at that gap.
Power: unreasonable
gamar wrote: IMO, Sentry, like cMags last time, is suffering from post-nerf underrating. He's easily still better than the chars ranked 16-13 and maaaaybe deadpool as well.
Spoit wrote: gamar wrote: IMO, Sentry, like cMags last time, is suffering from post-nerf underrating. He's easily still better than the chars ranked 16-13 and maaaaybe deadpool as well. IIRC, I put DP as like maybe the 3 or 4th best 3*. ALOTT is cheap and whales is maybe one of the best purple powers
morph3us wrote: 3. 3* Thor, even Seems a bit overrated to me, since he doesn't synergize well with X-Force and can't be played with TGT at all, plus I'm having a hard time making a case for him over Fury. My feeling is that 3* Thor has been rated highly by those of us who don't have any viable 4*s at this stage. In the absence of TGT, X-Force, or Fury, he rates very highly still. Also, I'd argue that 3* Thor is more reliable on defense than Fury (if there is such a thing as defense in PVP!).
onimus wrote: gamar wrote: IMO, Sentry, like cMags last time, is suffering from post-nerf underrating. He's easily still better than the chars ranked 16-13 and maaaaybe deadpool as well. He's actually suffering from an unusual case of post-nerf overrating. I think people can't quite cope with how bad he really is. "How can you go from elite to completely worthless?" they ask. The shock will subside and he'll drop another 3 to 5 places in the next set of rankings, once it is infinitely clear how bad he is. He has no appealing qualities about him other than his high health.
Ben Grimm wrote: onimus wrote: gamar wrote: IMO, Sentry, like cMags last time, is suffering from post-nerf underrating. He's easily still better than the chars ranked 16-13 and maaaaybe deadpool as well. He's actually suffering from an unusual case of post-nerf overrating. I think people can't quite cope with how bad he really is. "How can you go from elite to completely worthless?" they ask. The shock will subside and he'll drop another 3 to 5 places in the next set of rankings, once it is infinitely clear how bad he is. He has no appealing qualities about him other than his high health. I completely disagree with this. World Rupture plus Sacrifice still does an obscene amount of damage, it's just slower and somewhat less reliable. I've started using it again in the Simulator and it's taken out enemy teams where everyone was over 10k in hit points still. He's not overpowered, and he's not someone you're going to use regularly (or maybe at all in PVP), but he has a very good niche role in taking on very high level enemies. In some ways, it's a good representation of the character: you only want to use him when you need to, but when you need to, he destroys whole teams.
gamar wrote: onimus wrote: gamar wrote: IMO, Sentry, like cMags last time, is suffering from post-nerf underrating. He's easily still better than the chars ranked 16-13 and maaaaybe deadpool as well. He's actually suffering from an unusual case of post-nerf overrating. I think people can't quite cope with how bad he really is. "How can you go from elite to completely worthless?" they ask. The shock will subside and he'll drop another 3 to 5 places in the next set of rankings, once it is infinitely clear how bad he is. He has no appealing qualities about him other than his high health. Let's go down the list of chars directly above him: I literally cannot think of a situation where I'd use Human Torch rather than Sentry. Maybe against level 60 gimme battles, but I would use Patch or Psylocke or someone instead of Torch so not even then Human Torch is overrated, in my opinion as well, But I still use him over Sentry in PVE. He deals a ton of damage and doesn't hurt his own team, which is nice. He isn't competitive in PVP, but then again, neither is Sentry Captain Marvel's an odd duck, she charges your 4*s but dies in return - She's not bad but I don't really get the love for her She was definitely better before Xforce came around. But having a 2 turn heavy damage stun is quite strong and she has a lot of use as a battery as well as a niche performer against amped up PVE protect tile generators. You have to get Dino just about all the way to 270 to even consider using him WHICH IS INSANE and even then I don't think "bad abilities but all the health" means as much in the current meta Dino has taken the role of "I don't want to deal with that" defense. He isn't a death machine, but having that much HP makes him resistant to even the strongest hits and he doesn't damage himself, so still more use than Sentry. Hulk is now awful in PvP - SS Hulk for all the green and let him anger green back onto the board? Hulk isn't a deterrent, he's BAIT in PVP. Now, in PvE, he can give a significant leg up against overscaled teams in exchange for a health pack every battle or two - which Sentry does just as well, if not better Hulk is very underrated right now. Pair him with Patch and you have a team that can kill ANYTHING in PVP. Hulk Patch is my go to team when taking on Xforce 4hor and that's with a level 245 Xforce on my roster. He is also how I beat the 300 and 400 level teams in simulator hard mode.