Nabistay wrote: My suggestion for a third ability: Loki - Master of Disguise (Variable cost) Loki isn't just the best at creating illusions, he also can trick the enemy into thinking he is someone else entirely! Can select an extra team up ability. This ability uses green energy instead of team up AP, but costs 4 more to use 2 cover - costs 2 AP less (2 more than normal) 3 cover - costs 2 AP less (0 more than normal) 4 cover - costs 1 AP less (1 less than normal) 5 cover - costs 1 AP less (2 less than normal)
dkffiv wrote: Nabistay wrote: My suggestion for a third ability: Loki - Master of Disguise (Variable cost) Loki isn't just the best at creating illusions, he also can trick the enemy into thinking he is someone else entirely! Can select an extra team up ability. This ability uses green energy instead of team up AP, but costs 4 more to use 2 cover - costs 2 AP less (2 more than normal) 3 cover - costs 2 AP less (0 more than normal) 4 cover - costs 1 AP less (1 less than normal) 5 cover - costs 1 AP less (2 less than normal) Not bad but would involve them programming a way to select the team up. Could make it so it either uses the enemy team's team up or you select one of the opponents characters and activate a random ability (like Fast Ball Special). Variable cost wouldn't work, would probably need to be something like 14 - 1ap per cover. Would really fit with his theme but his pink would need to be adjusted as there wouldn't be much of a reason to put 5 covers into it
Nabistay wrote: I do really like the idea of it using their randomly selected team power up. sometimes it is amazing, sometimes it is terrible, but as a green dump it wouldn't be bad. (not that anyone should ever be missing green..) so.. Loki - Master of Disguise (14 AP) Loki isn't just the best at creating illusions, he also can trick the enemy into thinking he is someone else entirely! Taking the form of their enemy's ally, he activates the enemy's team up! This ability uses green energy instead of team up AP. 2 cover - costs 1 AP less 3 cover - costs 1 AP less 4 cover - costs 1 AP less 5 cover - costs 1 AP less
Nonce Equitaur 2 wrote: After losing some battles due to ridiculous cascades, I wouldn't mind a power like this.You Fell For It! - PASSIVE Loki has trapped the battlefield. When the enemy team is lured into collecting more than 15 AP during their turn, Loki's team gets the excess power instead. Level 2: After 15 AP, the enemy attacks illusions. No damage to Loki's team. Level 3: Loki's trap activates at 13 AP. Level 4: Loki's trap activates at 11 AP. Subsequent harmful effects are reflected. Level 5: Loki's trap activates at 9 AP.
epick_fayle wrote: So, I was playing the Psylocke PVP and the cost of her power decreasing based on the number of on the board gave me an idea for an opposite power: increasing the AP costs of enemy powers. And what character is more fitting of such a power than Loki? So, this is what I came up with:Confusion - Green Passive Loki uses his many tricks to mess with the concentration of his enemies. Increase the cost of enemy and powers by 1 AP.Level Upgrades Level 2: Also increases the cost of enemy and powers. Level 3: Also increases the cost of enemy and powers. Level 4: Also increases the cost of enemy powers. Level 5: Increase the cost of all enemy powers by 2 AP.
nimvin wrote: epick_fayle wrote: ... He is a 3* so how about a better (?) version of OBW in a single power. Theft 7AP 1- whenever Loki matches green steal 1 enemy green. Steal 1 of each color. 2- whenever Loki matches black steal 1 enemy black. Steal 1of each color. 3- Steal 1 of each color including TU. 4- whenever Loki matches purple steal 1 enemy purple. Steal 1 of each color including TU. 5- Steal 2 of each color including TU.
epick_fayle wrote: ...
epick_fayle wrote: nimvin wrote: epick_fayle wrote: ... He is a 3* so how about a better (?) version of OBW in a single power. Theft 7AP 1- whenever Loki matches green steal 1 enemy green. Steal 1 of each color. 2- whenever Loki matches black steal 1 enemy black. Steal 1of each color. 3- Steal 1 of each color including TU. 4- whenever Loki matches purple steal 1 enemy purple. Steal 1 of each color including TU. 5- Steal 2 of each color including TU. At this point, we already have several characters that can steal AP (Mystique, OBW, Hood, Blade, don't know if I'm forgetting anyone else). Personally, I would be more interested in a new mechanism like increasing enemy AP costs.
Phaserhawk wrote: I'm hoping they tweaked his black, purple was okay, but black was way to expensive for what it did,
DrUnpleasant wrote: Phaserhawk wrote: I'm hoping they tweaked his black, purple was okay, but black was way to expensive for what it did, Black was expensive, but have you tried it with Patch's Berzerker Rage? Combo those two together and it removes the downside from Berzerker to give you 2.5k damage, puts out almost 1k of strike tiles and 1k of defence tiles in one hit. It's pretty much only Patch that works with Loki currently, but when it works it's glorious!
daibar wrote: The problem is if they do give him a 3rd power, they'll probably nerf illusions to at least 8 AP. (Manipulation costs 11AP.) The only reason it's allowed to be so low now is because few people use him with the level difference.
NorthernPolarity wrote: To be fair, Loki's purple is so good that if your team only needed a purple user, I would strongly consider running Loki. I rank it as probably the third best purple in the game behind deceptive tactics and aggressive recon: generating ~7.5 destroyed tiles on average for 5 AP is insane, and the fact that its cheap means you don't even have to prioritize it. Fury or DP would probably be much better with illusions instead of Escape Plan or whales just because it's so damn cheap. The problem is that you normally don't have space on your team for a character that only contributes one ability, but with the third skill, he might legitimately be high tier.