Unreallystic wrote: I've got to be honest, the more and more I use Hood, the less and less I am impressed with him defensively. He reminds me of MStorm - he seems terrifying in theory, but in practice, one or two small adjustments eat him alive. For one, his lack of offensive punch, while not spiderman level, its pretty close. What makes him scary is rally just his blue- his yellow is effective, but cost almost as much as Captain America's and we know how much people use that, and hey Cap has more health, so at least you have a better chance of getting it off with Cap. His black is 'meh' damage wise, and the effect of helping to fire off CDs is great, but the few useful people with CDs like Sentry are being played wrong if you can fire off black in time to match his yellow/green. Then with his health levels, he gets eaten up by AoE type attacks. Then the meat and potatoes of his defense is his ability to steal AP, the problem is the worthwhile stuff to steal, you are going for YOURSELF. Let's be frank - green is pretty much universally seen as the most important color outside of a few teams, often followed by or matched by red...it's infrequent that there are mosre than 8-9 of these on the board at the end of a turn. I mean its great to get fat off the often ignored yellow and purple *depending on m/u*, but the time it takes for that to happen, CMags has translocated you to oblivion, Sentry has blasted or blown you to pieces, Patch has cut you to shreds, etc. I mean I'd compare it to Psylocke's blue power in fact. So to nerf Hood would be erroneous...he's a glowing LED that screams 'free points' like any team I see with MStorm/MMags. The only time a character should be nerfed is if there is a reason to consistently skip them, and Hood doesn't fit that mold like Sentry/Daken/Magneto do. - Unreall
Unreallystic wrote: I'm not sold on him sorry. I truly do understand his benefit, I just feel like they are overstated in function. I 'just' started shield hopping and boosting so I'm not even looking at it from that point. I'm thinking Does he beat hearty teams with the like of Hulk/Sentry/Thor/Daken/Patch? No. Sentry gets his jollies off quickly, Daken does as well, Thor can get his jollies via 'over time' or through building to it quickly with yellows->green. Maybe its the way I play, but i I have Patch or Thor or some other character with a strong color, I go hard trying to collect all those matches, so there are rarely enough on the board for it to trigger the steal effect. Does he stop game ending or near game ending powers? Not really, between Sentry/Thor/BP, etc - those powers the players are going to rush too, pretty much again, negating the number of tiles on the board. sure you'll get one or two from what falls down as a new tile or via cascade, but ultimately it doesn't 'really' stop or prevent those attacks, or feed into yours.
Bugpop wrote: I think a lot of frustration comes from a player failing to notice that Hood was one of the opponents. It's no different than failing to change the target. There's wasting match damage on Daken or Wolverine, getting nailed by Classic Storm, or angering Hulk.
locked wrote: Pft, I would smack Black Panther/lazy Thor/lazy Cap teams all day long over oBW/Hood teams if I'm allowed to bring my own Hood. If someone's 'not sold' on Hood and relies on oBW more instead, all the better for the rest of us, really.
Unreallystic wrote: I'm not sold on him sorry. I truly do understand his benefit, I just feel like they are overstated in function. I 'just' started shield hopping and boosting so I'm not even looking at it from that point. I'm thinking Does he beat hearty teams with the like of Hulk/Sentry/Thor/Daken/Patch? No. Sentry gets his jollies off quickly, Daken does as well, Thor can get his jollies via 'over time' or through building to it quickly with yellows->green. Maybe its the way I play, but i I have Patch or Thor or some other character with a strong color, I go hard trying to collect all those matches, so there are rarely enough on the board for it to trigger the steal effect. Does he stop game ending or near game ending powers? Not really, between Sentry/Thor/BP, etc - those powers the players are going to rush too, pretty much again, negating the number of tiles on the board. sure you'll get one or two from what falls down as a new tile or via cascade, but ultimately it doesn't 'really' stop or prevent those attacks, or feed into yours. Maybe the tell tell sign to me is the fact that I've actually gone 'back' to OBW for support. Her AP stealing is WAY more consistent and cna be triggered before something bad happens in all instances except a bad cascade...AND she has a still useful heal. As it stands it feels like Hood is good for just AP stealing - just like Hulk seems to only be good for Anger...sure they are good skills, but it feels like you're holding back your roster with either character. I am at the point now where Falcon's passives - yellow and blue - are more beneficial than Hood. I guess my thing is mos def he shouldn't be nerfed - if anything he needs a buff to intimidation's effects (simply due to the lack of useful CDs @ the 3 star level) Cap A...meh Sentry...don't need it X-Force *har* Punisher...don't need it Falcon...meh IM40...:thumbsup: Psylocke...meh BP...meh Or the AP on Twin Pistols needs adjustments - Unreall
Phantron wrote: Bugpop wrote: I think a lot of frustration comes from a player failing to notice that Hood was one of the opponents. It's no different than failing to change the target. There's wasting match damage on Daken or Wolverine, getting nailed by Classic Storm, or angering Hulk. That only matters if you forgot to load your boosts, but if you need to load boosts to deal with Hood that kind of says a lot about his power. Seeing him on the other team offers no meaningful way to deal with Dormammu unless you want to take a ridiculous amount of time each turn to figure out how many tiles of each color is available. There are only 3 characters that match up well against him: Sentry, Daken, and Magneto, and those guys match up well against anyone else to begin with so it's hardly a counter.
Unreallystic wrote: I've got to be honest, the more and more I use Hood, the less and less I am impressed with him defensively. He reminds me of MStorm - he seems terrifying in theory, but in practice, one or two small adjustments eat him alive. For one, his lack of offensive punch, while not spiderman level, its pretty close. What makes him scary is rally just his blue- his yellow is effective, but cost almost as much as Captain America's and we know how much people use that, and hey Cap has more health, so at least you have a better chance of getting it off with Cap. His black is 'meh' damage wise, and the effect of helping to fire off CDs is great, but the few useful people with CDs like Sentry are being played wrong if you can fire off black in time to match his yellow/green. Then with his health levels, he gets eaten up by AoE type attacks. - Unreall
locked wrote: Well. I just had a very *exciting* fight. I use LT/Mags to push but both Hood and LT took some damage (maybe at 60% health) and I decided to find an 'easy' match and heal them both with oBW instead of just using healthpacks on them. Had a matchup with oBW/non-maxed Hood and LT, charged in happily. Cue an enemy purple cascade on the second turn. Enemy Recon, eating a Thor red, then a Thor yellow... My LT couldn't take the abuse, not being at full health. It was then oBW/Hood against enemy oBW, Hood and LT. I managed to down oBW with an Intimidation and then proceeded to take out the Hood, but it was still my badly hurt oBW/Hood against a fully healthy LT with 12 green. That's what happened next. Thor gets 14 green, I use Pistols to charge purple and steal 3 green. Thor proceeds to make a green match next I sacrifice Widow. It's Hood who's buffed and has **** handguns, not you, Natasha! Managed to deny Thor his strong match colours long enough for charging Pistols into charging boosted Intimidation *whew* I just wanted to heal, goddammit!
Bugpop wrote: The team I use against troublesome Hood teams is Daken, Falcon, and Spider-Man. Of course things can go wrong, but I believe I get sufficient mileage from that lineup to suggest checking it out.