Ghast wrote: It is pretty disappointing. Keep in mind that we you can count Marvel's current female writers on one hand. I'm happy that new characters like Captain Marvel and She-Hulk now have health equal to that of the stronger male characters. The three weaker Widows and the low-health Storm variants just made me roll my eyes. There's an inexplicable (rationally) tendency to make female characters more fragile in games without really thinking about it.
fidsah wrote: Don't be a girl about it.
yogi_ wrote: fidsah wrote: Don't be a girl about it. I think you'll find this, more your thing.
Expalphalog wrote: When you insult people, don't you specifically look for a word that would be hurtful to them? Should she have called them 'strong capable persons?' That would certainly be more appropriate but it would not have accomplished her goal, which was to cause emotional harm. She reached into her verbal quiver and armed the most powerful arrow she could find at that moment. There is a lot of misogyny in this game, but I just don't see this as being a part of it.
Expalphalog wrote: When you insult people, don't you specifically look for a word that would be hurtful to them?
Ghast wrote: Expalphalog wrote: When you insult people, don't you specifically look for a word that would be hurtful to them? Should she have called them 'strong capable persons?' That would certainly be more appropriate but it would not have accomplished her goal, which was to cause emotional harm. She reached into her verbal quiver and armed the most powerful arrow she could find at that moment. There is a lot of misogyny in this game, but I just don't see this as being a part of it. A strong woman thinks that being called a girl is insulting? That came from someone with an Y chromosome who gave zero thought to the sentence before moving on.
fidsah wrote: Ghast wrote: Expalphalog wrote: When you insult people, don't you specifically look for a word that would be hurtful to them? Should she have called them 'strong capable persons?' That would certainly be more appropriate but it would not have accomplished her goal, which was to cause emotional harm. She reached into her verbal quiver and armed the most powerful arrow she could find at that moment. There is a lot of misogyny in this game, but I just don't see this as being a part of it. A strong woman thinks that being called a girl is insulting? That came from someone with an Y chromosome who gave zero thought to the sentence before moving on. As I pointed out with the link to the music video, women often use that term themselves, an in the correct context no less, and they don't have Y chromosomes. This seems to stem from a misunderstanding about how a lot of real women talk.
Ghast wrote: Yes, and some gay people also use the word "faggot." That doesn't give you license to use it as a derogatory term. The first refuge of the misogynist or bigot is the fact that some people of the opposite sex also engage in behavior that would rightly be called sexist if performed by a man. This is not a counterpoint - it is merely unfortunate.
Ghast wrote: A strong woman thinks that being called a girl is insulting? That came from someone with an Y chromosome who gave zero thought to the sentence before moving on.
Zifna wrote: You look for an insult that will hurt, but also something you find insulting.
fidsah wrote: Ghast wrote: Yes, and some gay people also use the word "faggot." That doesn't give you license to use it as a derogatory term. The first refuge of the misogynist or bigot is the fact that some people of the opposite sex also engage in behavior that would rightly be called sexist if performed by a man. This is not a counterpoint - it is merely unfortunate. The idea that people can use language because they're part of an "in group" that has "permission" to do so has nothing to do with equality and everything to do with bigotry, because they're just building a wall around themselves and screaming over it about how equal they are while everyone else can't do anything they can, because it's theirs. The fact that a girl can do something and it's okay, but a man doing the same thing would be "sexist" is flat out inequality and bigotry in it's own right. That's saying women can do stuff men can't because of their gender, which opens the door for men to do things women can't because of their gender. Might as well ship em back to the kitchen after a few iterations of that utopia.
Expalphalog wrote: Ghast wrote: A strong woman thinks that being called a girl is insulting? That came from someone with an Y chromosome who gave zero thought to the sentence before moving on. I think the fact that the OP was insulted enough to call attention to it is evidence enough in my favor.
fidsah wrote: The idea that people can use language because they're part of an "in group" that has "permission" to do so has nothing to do with equality and everything to do with bigotry, because they're just building a wall around themselves and screaming over it about how equal they are while everyone else can't do anything they can, because it's theirs.
fidsah wrote: The fact that a girl can do something and it's okay, but a man doing the same thing would be "sexist" is flat out inequality and bigotry in it's own right. That's saying women can do stuff men can't because of their gender, which opens the door for men to do things women can't because of their gender. Might as well ship em back to the kitchen after a few iterations of that utopia.
Ghast wrote: Expalphalog wrote: Ghast wrote: A strong woman thinks that being called a girl is insulting? That came from someone with an Y chromosome who gave zero thought to the sentence before moving on. I think the fact that the OP was insulted enough to call attention to it is evidence enough in my favor. 'Splain please.