Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I got Eros’s Arrow to 5* and honestly kind of forgot why I was doing that lol. I’m trying to decide if I want to try and push all my 2* up to 3 next, or just keep focusing on one meta support at a time to 5. I moved it to Leapfrog for now to be like the cool kids since it is 2 and doesn’t get useful till 3 anyway.Current 5* supports are just Chimichanga, Royal Talon Fighter, Power Stone, Eros's Arrow, and Shuri's Lab. The only supports I'm fully missing are Mind Stone and Soul Stone. None are at 1* but at 2* I have Gamma Rays, Helicarier, Leapfrog, Implanted Bomb, Skrulluminati, Thanos-Copter, and Totem Dagger. Regardless of age, 3* is a new power unlock, so it kind of feels like a worthwhile effort to push them up across the board.
Focusing on getting one to 5 at a time will mean rewards will ultimately cascade faster than leveling all at the same time, since rewards for any of your 5 supports go to the one you favorited.
That said, unlocking a 3 star power you will actually use or need of course trumps this.
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I mean taking one to 3, then another to 3, and so on, always focusing on just one at a time. But there are a lot of older supports that don’t give out free AP till they hit 4* that I also have my eye on, so it’s really just trying to decide on an order of operations for them.
I honestly still don’t know what most of them do, the text is truly too small to read on an iPhone.
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I mean taking one to 3, then another to 3, and so on, always focusing on just one at a time. But there are a lot of older supports that don’t give out free AP till they hit 4* that I also have my eye on, so it’s really just trying to decide on an order of operations for them.I honestly still don’t know what most of them do, the text is truly too small to read on an iPhone.
Wow, what a weak complaint. Haven't you simply used another phone to take a picture of the iPhone, then sent the picture to your desktop and zoomed in there?
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I have screenshotted it and zoomed in once or twice, but ultimately decided that if they wanted me to care what these did, they would make them legible.
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Being able to read what they do doesn't always result in understanding what they are going to do. I normally just end up being happily surprised if I suddenly gain some AP or the board starts moving and it had nothing to do with me.
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I suppose the only sensible thing to do is get a Moviphone, and project the text on the wall
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I mean taking one to 3, then another to 3, and so on, always focusing on just one at a time. But there are a lot of older supports that don’t give out free AP till they hit 4* that I also have my eye on, so it’s really just trying to decide on an order of operations for them.I honestly still don’t know what most of them do, the text is truly too small to read on an iPhone.
I think you should consider the alternative before making a decision to ‘soft cap’ supports. I stopped leveling 1, 2, and 3 star supports when I have enough shards a long time ago. Instead, I take the long approach and let the shards sit there. I assume that over time, I will eventually pull the right token for them to level to 4. It wastes a lot less shards over long time. If you use shards to level from 2 to 3 and then pull the 3 star token of that support, you wasted shards.
I only favorite one support that is at level 4 and focus on that one, one at a time. Only when I have a 3 star support with 1600 saved shards do I level it to 4, to avoid any waste if I happen to pull a rare 5 star.
You seem to be a player who is comfortable with the long game (see: this whole thread!). Support shards are the rarest commodity currently in the game. I think there are better strategies than what you propose.
(*again, this all is with the disclaimer that if you _really_ want a specific support leveled, because you will use it a lot, this trumps the long game and you should focus on short term gains)
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I mean taking one to 3, then another to 3, and so on, always focusing on just one at a time. But there are a lot of older supports that don’t give out free AP till they hit 4* that I also have my eye on, so it’s really just trying to decide on an order of operations for them.I honestly still don’t know what most of them do, the text is truly too small to read on an iPhone.
When you get a support to 5 star, every time you get shards for that support they convert to shards for your favorite. So the more 5 star supports you have, the more often you will start getting favorite shards.
I have been focusing on getting supports to 5 star, and the more supports I get to 5 star the faster I am getting new supports to 5 star. The favorite shards start to snowball.
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@BriMan2222 said:
@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I mean taking one to 3, then another to 3, and so on, always focusing on just one at a time. But there are a lot of older supports that don’t give out free AP till they hit 4* that I also have my eye on, so it’s really just trying to decide on an order of operations for them.I honestly still don’t know what most of them do, the text is truly too small to read on an iPhone.
When you get a support to 5 star, every time you get shards for that support they convert to shards for your favorite. So the more 5 star supports you have, the more often you will start getting favorite shards.
I have been focusing on getting supports to 5 star, and the more supports I get to 5 star the faster I am getting new supports to 5 star. The favorite shards start to snowball.
Yes but at half rate. So if you get 50 shards for the 5* you only get 25 for your favorite.
KGB
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@Zarqa said:
I only favorite one support that is at level 4 and focus on that one, one at a time. Only when I have a 3 star support with 1600 saved shards do I level it to 4, to avoid any waste if I happen to pull a rare 5 star.This makes no sense.
If you have 1600 shards saved for a 3 star support and you pull the R5 version of that support (or obtain it in a Heroic boss event) then those 1600 shards are utterly wasted.
Also at R3 you'd need 2400 shards (900 to get to R4 and 1600 to get to R5). If you simply go to R4 at 1600 shards you'll then have a R4 + 700 shards. You still then run the risk of pulling an R5 and wasting 700 shards.
Unfortunately wasting shards is something that happens very often on supports because once you hit R4 + 1200 shards there exists a non-zero chance you'll get 400 bonus shards on any pull which will put you over the 1600 you need (I hit a 400 bonus once when I was at 1580 of 1600).
KGB
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I'm not really suggesting a permanent soft-cap, I'm just saying most supports barely do anything below 3* tier. I do appreciate the perspective on accruing 5* supports to make accruing 5* supports easier though, i'll have to consider that. That has been part of the reason I haven't bothered upgrading my non-purple infinity stones since I"ll never pull those from a token. I have a couple 4* ones at 600 shards, I suppose it would be worth it to try to start pushing them over in order of existing shard pools. But i'm not worried about "wasting" favorite shards across this process.
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The non purple infinity stones are about 95% worthless, honestly.
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@KGB said:
@Zarqa said:
I only favorite one support that is at level 4 and focus on that one, one at a time. Only when I have a 3 star support with 1600 saved shards do I level it to 4, to avoid any waste if I happen to pull a rare 5 star.This makes no sense.
If you have 1600 shards saved for a 3 star support and you pull the R5 version of that support (or obtain it in a Heroic boss event) then those 1600 shards are utterly wasted.
Also at R3 you'd need 2400 shards (900 to get to R4 and 1600 to get to R5). If you simply go to R4 at 1600 shards you'll then have a R4 + 700 shards. You still then run the risk of pulling an R5 and wasting 700 shards.
Unfortunately wasting shards is something that happens very often on supports because once you hit R4 + 1200 shards there exists a non-zero chance you'll get 400 bonus shards on any pull which will put you over the 1600 you need (I hit a 400 bonus once when I was at 1580 of 1600).
KGB
Maybe I didn’t explain myself properly. Sorry if it wasn’t clear. But yes, there is a high risk of wasting support shards at the final stretch of getting any to 5. I agree there.
What I was trying to say is that for those supports that I don’t favorite , I will not level a 2 to 3 from shards.
Instead l, I keep collecting shards because I will likely pull a rank 3 support before I get them to 5 by shards alone. Similarly, I also don’t rank up a 3 star with 900 shards, because there is a small chance of getting a rank 4, and then those shards work towards getting to 5 faster.
However, when a rank 3 support reaches 1600 shards, that is when I bite the bullet. Because pulling a 4 rank would waste shards. In that case I just prefer to have the 4 star support.
Despite my **** explanation, I still believe in a strategy to not immediately rank up 2 and 3 star supports when you get the shards to do so.
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@Zarqa said:
@KGB said:
@Zarqa said:
I only favorite one support that is at level 4 and focus on that one, one at a time. Only when I have a 3 star support with 1600 saved shards do I level it to 4, to avoid any waste if I happen to pull a rare 5 star.This makes no sense.
If you have 1600 shards saved for a 3 star support and you pull the R5 version of that support (or obtain it in a Heroic boss event) then those 1600 shards are utterly wasted.
Also at R3 you'd need 2400 shards (900 to get to R4 and 1600 to get to R5). If you simply go to R4 at 1600 shards you'll then have a R4 + 700 shards. You still then run the risk of pulling an R5 and wasting 700 shards.
Unfortunately wasting shards is something that happens very often on supports because once you hit R4 + 1200 shards there exists a non-zero chance you'll get 400 bonus shards on any pull which will put you over the 1600 you need (I hit a 400 bonus once when I was at 1580 of 1600).
KGB
Maybe I didn’t explain myself properly. Sorry if it wasn’t clear. But yes, there is a high risk of wasting support shards at the final stretch of getting any to 5. I agree there.
What I was trying to say is that for those supports that I don’t favorite , I will not level a 2 to 3 from shards.
Instead l, I keep collecting shards because I will likely pull a rank 3 support before I get them to 5 by shards alone. Similarly, I also don’t rank up a 3 star with 900 shards, because there is a small chance of getting a rank 4, and then those shards work towards getting to 5 faster.
However, when a rank 3 support reaches 1600 shards, that is when I bite the bullet. Because pulling a 4 rank would waste shards. In that case I just prefer to have the 4 star support.
Despite my **** explanation, I still believe in a strategy to not immediately rank up 2 and 3 star supports when you get the shards to do so.
100% agree on ranking up supports from R2 to R3. The only time I'd consider breaking that rule is for a meta support like Leapfrog where R3 is everything AND if Leapfrog was 3 months away rotation wise in the support store because waiting 3+ months is just too long IMHO.
KGB
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Going back to the confusion of Supports I lucked into a rank 5 Hellfire Club Support yesterday after winning tokens in Puzzle Quest and well, this thing does the most random stuff yet. Give the enemy team 2 AP in their 4th strongest colour?!?!? The robot that invented that one is one short circuit away from deleting the game...
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I did manage to upgrade my hellfire club to 4; usually puzzle gauntlet is a 3* disappointment for me so that was something.
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@entrailbucket said:
The non purple infinity stones are about 95% worthless, honestly.The soul stone (the current season one) is really good for wave nodes. Gain 5 ap in your teams strongest color every time you down someone.
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That’s probably good with 4* doom too.
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I got leapfrog to 3* and then moved to my highest shard 4 which was Blackbird. I think I’ll see how well it goes working from the top down for awhile.
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@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I got leapfrog to 3* and then moved to my highest shard 4 which was Blackbird. I think I’ll see how well it goes working from the top down for awhile.Do you use Blackbird? Not sure I've ever equipped it.
I wouldn't bother sharding any support I didn't use. You are far better off getting Leapfrog to 5 (the R5 perk is quite useful since it saves you from being killed by a nuke) than Blackbird to 5.
KGB
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