Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse

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  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,531 Chairperson of the Boards

    Increased stun length and increased AP destruction on black, increased countdown length and AP reduction on yellow so that's something improved I guess. Still not sure if that warrants play time for me

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    I used to use her for her AP reduction but I can't remember for the life of me who I partnered her with.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    Shuri was better right from the jump, I don’t think I’ve ever used her by choice.

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    I used to use Shuri with 4BP and Prowler - that's a fun team.

    Still can't remember who 4BW used to roll with - it was probably something thematic rather than super useful.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    I often had Flaptain in between them since his red is uncapped. Shuri, Panther, and Okoye work great, as do Shuri, Panther, and Heimdall. Now they probably work great with Eddie Brock Venom since panther takes advantage of all protects, not just friendlies, and panther is great with Polaris and BRB as you might expect.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    I decided to champ Goose rather than continue to ascend 4s that were waiting on iso since I was starting to stack up saved covers and shards. went straight to 458. I haven't decided if I'll work on Hunter next who is also starting to stack covers, or go back to the ascendable 4s (kraven, xfdp, thor, moon knight) as my iso regenerates. I also have Multiple Man and Moon girl sitting around fully covered and unchamped...man, falling behind lol.

  • Zalasta
    Zalasta Posts: 308 Mover and Shaker

    Even after buying several ISO lightning deals, the ISO deficit is real.

  • dramatist
    dramatist Posts: 227 Tile Toppler

    I have 8.3 million Iso. But I have 27 4* dupes in some state between 1 and 12 covers. If they all finish at the same time I’ll be in Iso deficit again.

    That’s scary to think about.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,531 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dramatist said:
    I have 8.3 million Iso. But I have 27 4* dupes in some state between 1 and 12 covers. If they all finish at the same time I’ll be in Iso deficit again.

    That’s scary to think about.

    huh, i have 19 4* dupes and 5.3 mission iso. The odds of them finishing at the same time are slim though so I think i'm still healthily in the post-iso environment.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    It doesn't take long to drain that money bin; you're looking at ~375k per 4*, then ~575k for a 5* give or take?

    Just looking at who i'm able to champ right now, which is 5* Huntress, 4* Thor dupe, 4* Moon Knight dupe, 4* Kraven dupe, 4* deadpool dupe, Moon Girl, and Multiple Man, I need: 2,813,856 just to catch back up to neutral. That doesn't include the still NEW characters Angela and Weapon Hex who still need covers.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    It doesn't take long to drain that money bin; you're looking at ~375k per 4*, then ~575k for a 5* give or take?

    Just looking at who i'm able to champ right now, which is 5* Huntress, 4* Thor dupe, 4* Moon Knight dupe, 4* Kraven dupe, 4* deadpool dupe, Moon Girl, and Multiple Man, I need: 2,813,856 just to catch back up to neutral. That doesn't include the still NEW characters Angela and Weapon Hex who still need covers.

    Meanwhile, I'm over here with 10+ million iso I just can't get rid of.

  • Timemachinego
    Timemachinego Posts: 546 Critical Contributor

    @Bowgentle said:
    Meanwhile, I'm over here with 10+ million iso I just can't get rid of.

    I really don't think being able to gift ISO would screw up the economy whatsoever, they just have to do it at a silly rate like 5:1 or even 10:1. Help enough people and we can all be ISO poor together!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,920 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited February 2024

    @Timemachinego said:

    @Bowgentle said:
    Meanwhile, I'm over here with 10+ million iso I just can't get rid of.

    I really don't think being able to gift ISO would screw up the economy whatsoever, they just have to do it at a silly rate like 5:1 or even 10:1. Help enough people and we can all be ISO poor together!

    It wouldn't screw up the in game economy.

    It would create an out of game economy. You could pay me $X out of game, then I'd join your alliance and gift you some amount of ISO. They don't want that, because it creates certain difficulties for developers.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    Negasonic has gotten to 370, now moving into working on her dupe. Looks like as of 1/23/2024 I needed 13 covers, so that's a pretty fast earn rate it feels like; nearly one a day. We'll see if that persists into the month to get that dupe ready to go. I ascended Kraven as well.

  • HuracanDolor
    HuracanDolor Posts: 60 Match Maker
    edited February 2024

    I’ve been doing this for years and I don’t miss a beat when it comes to champing 5*.
    Playing for placement is just entirely too stressful (for me)
    I only do full progression on some PVE events, play til 900 (sometimes) in PVP, & my leisure play is toying around with teams in the PVP Simulator.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    That's about what I do anymore, even that amount of grind still sometimes feels like work though. I ascended XFDP earlier, I imagine that is probably the last time I use him to punish damage but I haven't checked the numbers.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,920 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    That's about what I do anymore, even that amount of grind still sometimes feels like work though. I ascended XFDP earlier, I imagine that is probably the last time I use him to punish damage but I haven't checked the numbers.

    His purple power is an excellent counter for m'Thor.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    Finally hit the "spend a bazillion iso" milestone to close that one out. I ascended Sandman as well, and vulture/gamora/sandman #1 Stunlockers team (sandman stun +aoe on green, gamora multi-stun on blue, vulture generates both those colors airborne) works pretty well in simulator once you get Vulture up.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,531 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited March 2024

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    With Goose (Chewie!) out, I'm going to go all in on her as my 3* favourite. Nearly all of my current 3* are Max-Max or close to as I kept my dupes when BCS was handing out all those retro rewards, so I have no real need to target any 3* unless I really wanted one in particular the 5* level.

    So now I'll test how long it takes to max a 3* from scratch (hehe) before I can ascend.

    Update: With the bonus pull rate now at an end, Goose is at 207.

    She was my only 3* target the entire time, I've been pulling all my Standard/Heroic/Elite/Mighty tokens. 54 covers in 2 weeks. Will see how long it takes to get the next 59 covers without the bonus pull rate in effect. I'm guessing 8 more weeks.

    Update 2: 1 week later, and Goose is at 224. 17 covers in a week from random pulls & shards. May slow down a bit this week with Boss Event, but I don't think it'll take another 8 weeks. Likely 3-4 depending on if the next batch of Ascension gives me some extra tokens to play with.

    Update 3: Another week, and Goose is at 236. A little less this week, but 12-17 a week is pretty solid. Should be 2 more weeks until Goose is maxed, then a week more to have her ready to ascend.
    So guessing around 7 weeks to get a 3* Ascended from scratch if you go all in on them.

    I'm also pleased with this month's Classics boosted draw list. My Deathlok dupe is at 2/2/1 right now, so the bonus draw rate should get him ready to ascend in Batch 4.

    Plus my 4*Thor dupe is at 298, so a few more covers and Mighty Thor shards before I ascend her.

    Update 4: exactly 6 weeks from release to max champ. Goose now at 266, and will start my dupe soon. Average draw rate was ~15 a week, so the bonus pull probably gave me ~25 covers (The Hunter is at 190 so seems about right).

    1 more week and I can ascend a Max-Min Goose, or 7-8 more weeks and I can ascend a Max-Max Goose.

    Will likely go for max min and switch over to maxing out the hold out 3* that I have (Magik just hit 266 and I need a dupe, She Hulk and Switch dupes are both at 250+)

    Update! 3 Goose is now 4 Goose. A little longer than the anticipated 8 weeks, but not too far off. With her release in November, it took ~4 months to get a new 3* character to Max-Max ascension.

    Now only ~200 more covers to go until she's 4* max champed and start this all over again. To get her max champed at the current rate, should take another 13 weeks or so.

    That means if I go max-max again on the 3* (I won't go max max on the 4* ), by Christmas I should be looking at a 5* Goose, or about a year from release to 5* ascension.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,551 Chairperson of the Boards

    i opted to pivot to 3* scarlet witch after getting arcade to 4* myself. I've got a 266 and my dupe is at 2/3/3 currently.

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