PVP Supports: Feedback Thread

I managed to stun an enemy juggernaut for 3 turns, expecting him to die for not making a move or firing a power in that amount of turns, and he did not. It was delightful.

@BriMan2222 said:

@Tony_Foot said:

@Pylgrim said:
Further feedback: I used to play more SIM than PVP events. I only have a comparative few 5* (and most of them old), so in PVP events, I'm usually fighting 550+ level teams with 450 level teams. At least in SIM, it's all 450-500 in my matchmaking. However, with supports, now I'having a much easier time in PVP against those 550+ teams, while in comparison, SIM feels like an utter slog.

I'd much rather now have a loss that came in 1-2 turns due to supports (and some wins like that) than the 5-10 turn losses I get in SIM when the board refuses to give me the colours I need, while the opponent cascades every turn. Much less frustrating.

I’m exactly the same, I’ve stopped in sim. I now just try and fail to play 1 match per day to boost my PvP score a bit but I’ve also gone the full season without touching it. I wish it was just a tryout zone with no affect on season score. It’s so utterly boring playing the same team over and over. I’d play it if they introduced supports but only until I’d worked out my best team and then they would be no variety again.

If you're problem with sim is hitting the wall of OR, chasm, 3may teams try using Wanda, polaris, and goose against them. Works great for me, make sure to have goose in the middle so they start off making matches against her and making more strike tiles.

Instead of Wanda you could do Electro for not only damage mitigation but also yellow generation for either her's or Goose's yellow. Kittie/ascended Nico would be decent. Apoc would give you not only damage boost but that 1st turn stun wouldn't work on him with Polaris being there.

@ThaRoadWarrior said:

@Pantera236 said:

@BriMan2222 said:

@Tony_Foot said:

@Pylgrim said:
Further feedback: I used to play more SIM than PVP events. I only have a comparative few 5* (and most of them old), so in PVP events, I'm usually fighting 550+ level teams with 450 level teams. At least in SIM, it's all 450-500 in my matchmaking. However, with supports, now I'having a much easier time in PVP against those 550+ teams, while in comparison, SIM feels like an utter slog.

I'd much rather now have a loss that came in 1-2 turns due to supports (and some wins like that) than the 5-10 turn losses I get in SIM when the board refuses to give me the colours I need, while the opponent cascades every turn. Much less frustrating.

I’m exactly the same, I’ve stopped in sim. I now just try and fail to play 1 match per day to boost my PvP score a bit but I’ve also gone the full season without touching it. I wish it was just a tryout zone with no affect on season score. It’s so utterly boring playing the same team over and over. I’d play it if they introduced supports but only until I’d worked out my best team and then they would be no variety again.

If you're problem with sim is hitting the wall of OR, chasm, 3may teams try using Wanda, polaris, and goose against them. Works great for me, make sure to have goose in the middle so they start off making matches against her and making more strike tiles.

Instead of Wanda you could do Electro for not only damage mitigation but also yellow generation for either her's or Goose's yellow. Kittie/ascended Nico would be decent. Apoc would give you not only damage boost but that 1st turn stun wouldn't work on him with Polaris being there.

I continue to look for a good way to maximize Deadliest Woman using Polaris. I haven't spent much time with Goose, but it could be that the board would flood fast enough to work with that squad as well.

Would depend on how the power treats void and web tiles. Both are neutral so might work.

@MegaBee said:
I see a team in the 5-star Agatha PvP with Fantasticar, Leapfrog and Omnipotence City equipped. No way am I fighting that!

Who are the characters they are on? Could still be an easy win.

@MegaBee said:
I see a team in the 5-star Agatha PvP with Fantasticar, Leapfrog and Omnipotence City equipped. No way am I fighting that!

I'd like to find a target that didn't have that set of supports equipped.

Still hate them.

@WhiteBomber said:

@MegaBee said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@MegaBee said:
I see a team in the 5-star Agatha PvP with Fantasticar, Leapfrog and Omnipotence City equipped. No way am I fighting that!

Who are the characters they are on? Could still be an easy win.

Shang-Chi and MThor.

Darkveil (Krakoa) + Shang (Fantasticar)

• Take +1 or 2 in Teamup (non necessary, but will guarantee you win)
• Focus your combos around teamup
• If you have Krakoa be sure to throw Darks yellow ability at match start.
• Start the match by hitting MThor, when you get hit on their first move she will be sent away for 3 turns
• Focus Agatha next to shut down her passives
• Consider taking 2 cascading match 3's over match 4's as they lead to more board shuffle and more teamup from your car
• As soon as MThor returns shift focus back to her
  By this point the match should be so far in your favor you should be good to end, if not, repeat the above. Remember to focus your own Chi combos so you can heal as well as use Darks yellow to feed yourself more AP and protect her countdown. You should be able to come out of this fight having lost no health. If you are low on teamup and Thor is still alive, consider using Darks blue to send himself away, that way you can save your 3 teamup to send Thor away again when she returns. If you also have Agatha5 your match damage will get out of hand faster than MThor can say "blue passive saaave me".

You can also swap Chi with ascended Karnak (and surely others) for fun.

Actually, I'm not sure there is a team that doesn't include heavy team damage that this team won't come out with full health?

I appreciate the strat, but I don't have good Krakoa and Fantasticar.

I have nearly all of them, nothing on roster lower than two, but not too many better than 3.

@WhiteBomber said:

@MegaBee said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@MegaBee said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@MegaBee said:
I see a team in the 5-star Agatha PvP with Fantasticar, Leapfrog and Omnipotence City equipped. No way am I fighting that!

Who are the characters they are on? Could still be an easy win.

Shang-Chi and MThor.

Darkveil (Krakoa) + Shang (Fantasticar)

• Take +1 or 2 in Teamup (non necessary, but will guarantee you win)
• Focus your combos around teamup
• If you have Krakoa be sure to throw Darks yellow ability at match start.
• Start the match by hitting MThor, when you get hit on their first move she will be sent away for 3 turns
• Focus Agatha next to shut down her passives
• Consider taking 2 cascading match 3's over match 4's as they lead to more board shuffle and more teamup from your car
• As soon as MThor returns shift focus back to her
  By this point the match should be so far in your favor you should be good to end, if not, repeat the above. Remember to focus your own Chi combos so you can heal as well as use Darks yellow to feed yourself more AP and protect her countdown. You should be able to come out of this fight having lost no health. If you are low on teamup and Thor is still alive, consider using Darks blue to send himself away, that way you can save your 3 teamup to send Thor away again when she returns. If you also have Agatha5 your match damage will get out of hand faster than MThor can say "blue passive saaave me".

You can also swap Chi with ascended Karnak (and surely others) for fun.

Actually, I'm not sure there is a team that doesn't include heavy team damage that this team won't come out with full health?

I appreciate the strat, but I don't have good Krakoa and Fantasticar.

Mmm, that's a bummer, you can still win without them and definitely don't need Krakoa, but Fantasticar really is kinda silly. Sometimes the match just ends on the first move cascade, especially with Agatha5 yella passive.

I've definitely done some without the car, but I'll try a few more to see how bad it turns out. Karnak might be better than Shang without the car (also only if ascended, he just happened to be the first person I focused for ascending).

Honestly I personally recommend people prioritize Car over Frog, the offensive aggression is disgusting. That and Darkveil is just a defensive monster because of it.

I feel like you can get your supports leveled up pretty quickly. Most of them only need to be level 3 and there are only a handful you really want. I leveled Car, Frog and like 4 others just off of favorited shards since they implemented it. Definitely stop at level 3 though, 4 and 5 take waaaay too long and usually aren't worth getting a different one to 3.

Ok @MegaBee I tried the original team for stopping MThor Chi and it worked quite well. My opposing team was exactly what you mentioned minus Frog, but Red doesn't give a damn about Frog because frogs hate... SPORES.

Chasm (arrow, decent but not needed), Omega Red (Thanoscopter because why not), free Agatha5

• Take some match damage boosters if you want to speed it along, though not necessary
• Focus MThor until she is dead
• Watch Red kill everyone

Maybe put Agatha in front if she matches colors so she eats the damage. I came out of the fight with Freegatha eating most of the damage. Chasm really puts a damper on MThor being naughty, so its much less likely they get something going.