Ascended Winners and Losers

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  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 221 Tile Toppler
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    3* Emma, 3* Magik, and 3* May will all be a part of great 5* teams when ascended.

  • ViralCore
    ViralCore Posts: 163 Tile Toppler
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    M’baku is a definite winner with 🔴 32322,
    🟡 28730, and ⚫️ 25139, match damage

  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,724 Chairperson of the Boards
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    So that's a 550 god boosted right? Is that normal levels of match damage for 4-5 ascended max boosted? That's insane. Surely that's beyond broken. 6x the damage of 672 juggs, I don't have a 672 5* in this event to compare it too.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 2,985 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @Tony_Foot said:
    So that's a 550 god boosted right? Is that normal levels of match damage for 4-5 ascended max boosted? That's insane. Surely that's beyond broken. 6x the damage of 672 juggs, I don't have a 672 5* in this event to compare it too.

    If you look, he has 232K of 532K health which means he has 43% health. His Red passive says he gets 3% match damage boost per percent lost so 57*3=171%. That's on top of his 300%. So the total is 471% match damage boost.

    If you divide the Red (32322) by 5.71 (4.71 + 1.0 base damage) you get a base Red damage of roughly 5660. That's probably right for a 670 character.

    His boost can get a lot higher if he loses even more health.

    KGB

  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,724 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Thanks for the explanation, it’s insane match damage.

  • ViralCore
    ViralCore Posts: 163 Tile Toppler
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    With near or over 1 million health, no ascended character is a loser



  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 391 Mover and Shaker
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    Found this in Red Shift pvp


    This too.

    Both were 450 base. Wanda isn't all that impressive but Clea could get crazy. Especially at 672.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 4,985 Chairperson of the Boards
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    This is at 450 base (unboosted). Obviously the AP cost is ridiculous, but it's actually not a terrible deal?

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 122 Tile Toppler
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    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 4,985 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Oh, I can't see building around this, or (probably) ever even casting it. But it's a totally crazy number for an unboosted 450.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,307 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 29 April 2024, 23:43
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    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Agree. Even with boosts, it can take a while to get 13. In that time, there are several better options that one could fire twice or almost twice (Aunt May, MT, Shang, OR just a few examples).

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 122 Tile Toppler
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    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Oh, I can't see building around this, or (probably) ever even casting it. But it's a totally crazy number for an unboosted 450.

    True, if the game didn't have ridiculously unbalanced characters, that is a large single cast no special circumstances hit.

    Is there any way to share ISO yet? You have sooooooo much and I think I need most of it.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 122 Tile Toppler
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    Also, nerf Shang Chi? Eh, EH?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 4,985 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @WhiteBomber said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Oh, I can't see building around this, or (probably) ever even casting it. But it's a totally crazy number for an unboosted 450.

    True, if the game didn't have ridiculously unbalanced characters, that is a large single cast no special circumstances hit.

    Is there any way to share ISO yet? You have sooooooo much and I think I need most of it.

    I wish they gave us some way to get rid of the stuff...

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,307 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 30 April 2024, 00:08
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    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Oh, I can't see building around this, or (probably) ever even casting it. But it's a totally crazy number for an unboosted 450.

    True, if the game didn't have ridiculously unbalanced characters, that is a large single cast no special circumstances hit.

    Is there any way to share ISO yet? You have sooooooo much and I think I need most of it.

    I wish they gave us some way to get rid of the stuff...

    Agreed. Currency is so odd in this game. You tend to either not have enough or have way too much. There isn't much inbetween.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,563 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Oh, I can't see building around this, or (probably) ever even casting it. But it's a totally crazy number for an unboosted 450.

    True, if the game didn't have ridiculously unbalanced characters, that is a large single cast no special circumstances hit.

    Is there any way to share ISO yet? You have sooooooo much and I think I need most of it.

    I wish they gave us some way to get rid of the stuff...

    43mil here. I'd accept almost anything they offered, no matter how ridiculous. It's just sitting there. One million iso for 5 CPs? Sure, whatever.

  • liminal_lad
    liminal_lad Posts: 463 Mover and Shaker
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    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @WhiteBomber said:
    It cost Shang half the AP to do 5x that damage and they share red, I don't like it. Maybe if IM was fun to play. I suppose people still run him for his yella though.

    Oh, I can't see building around this, or (probably) ever even casting it. But it's a totally crazy number for an unboosted 450.

    True, if the game didn't have ridiculously unbalanced characters, that is a large single cast no special circumstances hit.

    Is there any way to share ISO yet? You have sooooooo much and I think I need most of it.

    I wish they gave us some way to get rid of the stuff...

    43mil here. I'd accept almost anything they offered, no matter how ridiculous. It's just sitting there. One million iso for 5 CPs? Sure, whatever.

    My 7.5 million feels downright paltry now.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 391 Mover and Shaker
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    His purple is great and all, and his green can be a big nuke. That black though... With 100k health at 450 and 45 - 50% damage reduction that can't be turned off 😱 at 672 he'll have like 500k health and with everything you hit him with doing half that's like having a million health.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards
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    @Pantera236 said:
    His purple is great and all, and his green can be a big nuke. That black though... With 100k health at 450 and 45 - 50% damage reduction that can't be turned off 😱 at 672 he'll have like 500k health and with everything you hit him with doing half that's like having a million health.

    He quickly turns into a problem. Hitting for upwards of 10-17k at level 450. His green often hits for 50k+ for me. SheThor basically can't get her engine going. So I leave her up and just let her buff him while he takes everyone else down.

    I think his purple might be his best ability, since you can burn AP you don't need. One cast gives you up to an extra 3,600 base match damage. So a standard match 3 black will do something like 15-20k. I did a regular match-4 black for 75k