Grand Experiment 2: Treading Water in the SCL 10 Post-Shardpocalypse

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  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2024

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:

    @Bowgentle said:

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Yes, that's the duplicate, I figure below the 4* tier it's probably worth a max-max since 3* are still the easiest characters to earn on purpose via sharding. I'm also very curious how the lazy design 3/5 characters compare when you get them up to comparable levels. I really don't know how long it'll take to get a 3* to 5* the hard way though. I'm not going to max-max at the 4* tier.

    Forever.
    My first ascended 3 - Iron Man - is 364, and that's with buying a few covers, like 50?
    The closest without additional cover purchases is Cap, at 327.
    I didn't fave them though, I'm ascending all 3s with max X max first.

    That's still a ton of iron man covers since ascension went live; what did you start with on roster when that feature went live? I never kept any non-4* dupes so I'm particularly flatfooted at the lower tiers relative to my 4* ascendeds.

    2x 266, then there was that one chain offer with 10/40/79 covers, where I bought the first two tiers.
    And he had 3 covers in one of the vaults I repeatedly bought - I think?

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Oh, you built a pair of 4s right off the bat, then maxing out one of them?

    No, I was building one and then one was, um, purchaseable? In a vault? Can't remember. Anyway it arrived unnaturally, you might even say unfairly, quickly.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Wasp is ascended. Goose and Hunter are both fully covered but I don’t have any iso.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    I went Full Swarm in simulator for a few rounds with ascended Wasp, ascended Ant-Man, and Wa5p. It worked way better than I expected it too, but it is too susceptible to Jane/polaris teams to really be more than a fun diversion.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards

    My highest 3ascend4* characters are all ~315, so a ways to go before anyone gets ascended to 5* status.

    I am sitting on ~300 LL right now (thanks to the ascension bug) Worthy Carter at 468, Goose at 462, and Hunter at 12 covers (with an open ticket for any Weapon Hex retros).

    Progress milestone: I hit my first max champed 1ascend3*, and did it for both Iron Man and Spider-Man at the same time. I think I got lucky with them and pulled pre-ascended characters out of the Champions 2.0 vaults.

    Now that I've hit that milestone I guess it is time for another experiment. Maybe I'll Max-Max one of them, and Max-Min the other and see how they progress towards the 5* realm.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2024

    my highest ascended 1to 3s are: Iron Man at 196, Storm at 193, and Spider-Man at 192. It appears I also have a level 92 1 to 2* spider-man, so i must also have gotten him from a vault or something pre-assembled. My highest 2-to-3 is hawkeye at 223, then Bullseye at 210, and Cap at 201. At 3 to 4 I only have deadpool and psylocke both at 277. Chavez is my best 4 to 5 at 465, then frost at 459 and rogue at 458 strictly due to them being early max-champs and having high dupes going in to the process. My own 5* Peggy is at 454, and my ascended peggy is at 455 coincidentally. Goose is covered with 5 saved and 625 shards, but unchamped, and Hunter is covered with 1 saved and 121 shards, neither champed for iso reasons. I have a ticket in for X-23 that hasn't gotten any response as of yet as well.

    My outright highest level character is Profe$$or X at 480, followed by Shang-Chi at 477 and Kamala at 476 for whatever reason.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ascended a few more 4s today; miles, Gwen, and vulture are up in the 5s. Still waiting on iso for a few more, and covers for some others with partial dupes. I’m currently working on Negasonic though, I have 13 covers to get her to 370, and another 14 for the 271 dupe to go. I want to run her with some of the charge tile 5s and see how it goes.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ascended black widow as well.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThaRoadWarrior said:
    Ascended black widow as well.

    and? I've got her dupe at 312, but I have no interest in ascending her as I don't find her kit interesting at all. Minimal damage on black, some minor tile destruction, and burst heal/AP Cost reduction. Does her damage ramp up or other powers change meaningfully when ascended, or does she stick to her support niche?

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2024

    Haven’t used her and probably won’t, I’ve never liked her kit and she still seems useless. She just happened to be ascendable, so it’s just a roster progress point.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards

    Increased stun length and increased AP destruction on black, increased countdown length and AP reduction on yellow so that's something improved I guess. Still not sure if that warrants play time for me

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    I used to use her for her AP reduction but I can't remember for the life of me who I partnered her with.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    Shuri was better right from the jump, I don’t think I’ve ever used her by choice.

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    I used to use Shuri with 4BP and Prowler - that's a fun team.

    Still can't remember who 4BW used to roll with - it was probably something thematic rather than super useful.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    I often had Flaptain in between them since his red is uncapped. Shuri, Panther, and Okoye work great, as do Shuri, Panther, and Heimdall. Now they probably work great with Eddie Brock Venom since panther takes advantage of all protects, not just friendlies, and panther is great with Polaris and BRB as you might expect.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    I decided to champ Goose rather than continue to ascend 4s that were waiting on iso since I was starting to stack up saved covers and shards. went straight to 458. I haven't decided if I'll work on Hunter next who is also starting to stack covers, or go back to the ascendable 4s (kraven, xfdp, thor, moon knight) as my iso regenerates. I also have Multiple Man and Moon girl sitting around fully covered and unchamped...man, falling behind lol.

  • Zalasta
    Zalasta Posts: 308 Mover and Shaker

    Even after buying several ISO lightning deals, the ISO deficit is real.

  • dramatist
    dramatist Posts: 227 Tile Toppler

    I have 8.3 million Iso. But I have 27 4* dupes in some state between 1 and 12 covers. If they all finish at the same time I’ll be in Iso deficit again.

    That’s scary to think about.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,532 Chairperson of the Boards

    @dramatist said:
    I have 8.3 million Iso. But I have 27 4* dupes in some state between 1 and 12 covers. If they all finish at the same time I’ll be in Iso deficit again.

    That’s scary to think about.

    huh, i have 19 4* dupes and 5.3 mission iso. The odds of them finishing at the same time are slim though so I think i'm still healthily in the post-iso environment.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards

    It doesn't take long to drain that money bin; you're looking at ~375k per 4*, then ~575k for a 5* give or take?

    Just looking at who i'm able to champ right now, which is 5* Huntress, 4* Thor dupe, 4* Moon Knight dupe, 4* Kraven dupe, 4* deadpool dupe, Moon Girl, and Multiple Man, I need: 2,813,856 just to catch back up to neutral. That doesn't include the still NEW characters Angela and Weapon Hex who still need covers.