Webslinger - 20-22.06 - Season III

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mags1587 wrote:

My bracket is strange. I'm in first with 1048 and there are no other max 3* teams in the top ten yet. Most are 2* rosters. . Shielded until the end so hit me if you have me in your queue.

Same, wonder if they relaxed or removed the pvp sharding now that the pvp rewards are more broad as they should have been a lone time ago.

franckynight

Well.. A really weird journey.. Stay unshielded 2 days long.. Forced to join very soon cause of being greyed out in cat 5.. I mixed my line up.. LT/ daken.. LT/hood.. Hulk/sentry.. Hulk/hood.. Pun/ mag.. Didnt matter.. Been hit all day long.. 150-200 pts by wave.. I clawed back again and again.. Been greyed out again in the process.. Finally i crossed the 1000 pts plateau and shielded.. 2 hop later and some xmen as roadblock i put my final shield.. On to the next pvp..

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franckynight wrote:

Well.. A really weird journey.. Stay unshielded 2 days long.. Forced to join very soon cause of being greyed out in cat 5.. I mixed my line up.. LT/ daken.. LT/hood.. Hulk/sentry.. Hulk/hood.. Pun/ mag.. Didnt matter.. Been hit all day long.. 150-200 pts by wave.. I clawed back again and again.. Been greyed out again in the process.. Finally i crossed the 1000 pts plateau and shielded.. 2 hop later and some xmen as roadblock i put my final shield.. On to the next pvp..

I got You saved for more than a day, I knew it will pay off

I just hit You and I think I'm safe with 1137pts at #1. Shielded till the end.

btw. Bugpop - sorry for hitting You 3hrs ago. I saw You retaliated a moment after I put a shield

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I never used pre-nerf Spidey. I never had enough covers. But this current incarnation - he's a nice support char. Defensive tiles helped. Occasionally I got 12Yellow, so it was like a bonus medpack. Not to mention that 3-4 times I used stun instead of CMags' Blue.
Of course there are better characters than Spider-Man. But he wasn't a balast, as it often happens in PvP ( *coughmororocough* ).

Bowgentle

Emeryt wrote:

I never used pre-nerf Spidey. I never had enough covers. But this current incarnation - he's a nice support char. Defensive tiles helped. Occasionally I got 12Yellow, so it was like a bonus medpack. Not to mention that 3-4 times I used stun instead of CMags' Blue.
Of course there are better characters than Spider-Man. But he wasn't a balast, as it often happens in PvP ( *coughmororocough* ).

Yeah, if I absolutely _have_to use him, he's better than say, Rags, or Loki.
But if I have a choice, he won't make my A, B or even C-Team.

Those defensive tiles can annoy the tinykitty out of you, though.

Unknown

Now that I have my last falcon cover, the next time this pvp comes around in s3, Falcon, daken, spidey. The annoyance factor through the roof can't wait.

gambl0r312

Emeryt wrote:

btw. Bugpop - sorry for hitting You 3hrs ago. I saw You retaliated a moment after I put a shield

Also hit u Bugpop! Thank you for the 30pts! But I only did it b/c u are in my bracket, and I was able verify that u were shielded (@ #1! nice of course ) before I did the hit! Thanks to u I'm comfortably in the top 5 for all 3 Torch covers!
( there's no way my family/Alliance would ever hit top 100 for any Alliance cover, they're too casual! )

franckynight

EvilSonGoku wrote:

Now that I have my last falcon cover, the next time this pvp comes around in s3, Falcon, daken, spidey. The annoyance factor through the roof can't wait.

A very fun team but ive been crushed by all the LT-patch/ Mag team.. But i like that even with being reckon several times, you put 1000-1200 hp each turn..
@ emeryt well done.. you re lucky cause i nearly put a stinker because of being fed up of the greyed out bug..

MajinDavid

If anyone sees majindavid in the next 2 hours and wouldnt mind givkng me 8 points it would be appreciated. Sitting at 892.

Unknown

I have been struggling to motivate myself to really put in that much effort into events since I know I'll end up getting too many of those "enemy gets perfect cascades" matches. I'll probably just end up starting late and see if I can get put into a weak bracket.

Best thing about this event is that the Red HT cover goes to the Top 100. If I can manage to get that high, I'll be happy.

Go OBW and Wolvie/Ares/Thor.

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Bowgentle wrote:

Emeryt wrote:

I never used pre-nerf Spidey. I never had enough covers. But this current incarnation - he's a nice support char. Defensive tiles helped. Occasionally I got 12Yellow, so it was like a bonus medpack. Not to mention that 3-4 times I used stun instead of CMags' Blue.
Of course there are better characters than Spider-Man. But he wasn't a balast, as it often happens in PvP ( *coughmororocough* ).

Yeah, if I absolutely _have_to use him, he's better than say, Rags, or Loki.
But if I have a choice, he won't make my A, B or even C-Team.

Those defensive tiles can annoy the tinykitty out of you, though.

The new Spidey is not bad a defensive specialist (as mentioned, the reduction of match damage to 1 is quite useful). But, he falls into the same awkward boat as Psylocke does. On a limited roster of 2, there is simply no room for a support character and support characters do not perform well on a team of 2 in this game. But, on a team of 3, he demonstrates significant potential. As such, he will be a useful PvE character down the road, limiting match damage of level 200+ enemies to tolerable levels needed to ensure a match lasts long enough for a win (especially once CMags blue is nerfed). Once the quick game is gone, he will be useful for ensuring that everyone survives long enough win the long game.

Spoit

Lyrian wrote:

Bowgentle wrote:

Emeryt wrote:

I never used pre-nerf Spidey. I never had enough covers. But this current incarnation - he's a nice support char. Defensive tiles helped. Occasionally I got 12Yellow, so it was like a bonus medpack. Not to mention that 3-4 times I used stun instead of CMags' Blue.
Of course there are better characters than Spider-Man. But he wasn't a balast, as it often happens in PvP ( *coughmororocough* ).

Yeah, if I absolutely _have_to use him, he's better than say, Rags, or Loki.
But if I have a choice, he won't make my A, B or even C-Team.

Those defensive tiles can annoy the tinykitty out of you, though.

The new Spidey is not bad a defensive specialist (as mentioned, the reduction of match damage to 1 is quite useful). But, he falls into the same awkward boat as Psylocke does. On a limited roster of 2, there is simply no room for a support character and support characters do not perform well on a team of 2 in this game. But, on a team of 3, he demonstrates significant potential. As such, he will be a useful PvE character down the road, limiting match damage of level 200+ enemies to tolerable levels needed to ensure a match lasts long enough for a win (especially once CMags blue is nerfed). Once the quick game is gone, he will be useful for ensuring that everyone survives long enough win the long game.

There's room for support specialists, just not mediocre (or as phantron would say, not-gamebreakingly broken) ones. Hood and Laken are both quite solid members of a duo, and if it didn't make you an attack magnet, OBW would too (dear god D3 please don't make a gold OBW)

Also, not only are retaliations bugged by matching you with defensive wins, apparently retreating still puts your defensive team in now. I retreat tanked to push one of my alliance members out of the no-node MMR buckets, but in the couple minutes it took to do another fight, I lost 400 points, and even an hour later I'm still getting random hits from random 2* teams

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Spoit wrote:

Also, not only are retaliations bugged by matching you with defensive wins, apparently retreating still puts your defensive team in now. I retreat tanked to push one of my alliance members out of the no-node MMR buckets, but in the couple minutes it took to do another fight, I lost 400 points, and even an hour later I'm still getting random hits from random 2* teams

There's a few in my alliance that have the same problem currently. One has lost over 400 points and the other over 600. They are saying that not only does retreating put in the tank team used, but it also generates a free retaliation against you for the person you retreated from, resulting in literally double jeopardy. Combined with the retreating team becoming the defensive team, this is causing quite a nightmare.

Unknown

Good run Bugpop. Was sure I could keep you in my rear view mirror when you dropped to 200 below me earlier today. Every time I unshielded i gain 50 pts just to lose 49 to fellow alliance members...

Nice comeback see you again perhaps

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Lyrian wrote:

Spoit wrote:

Also, not only are retaliations bugged by matching you with defensive wins, apparently retreating still puts your defensive team in now. I retreat tanked to push one of my alliance members out of the no-node MMR buckets, but in the couple minutes it took to do another fight, I lost 400 points, and even an hour later I'm still getting random hits from random 2* teams

There's a few in my alliance that have the same problem currently. One has lost over 400 points and the other over 600. They are saying that not only does retreating put in the tank team used, but it also generates a free retaliation against you for the person you retreated from, resulting in literally double jeopardy. Combined with the retreating team becoming the defensive team, this is causing quite a nightmare.

This increases the suspicion that the changes we've seen lately in the matchmaking aren't a result of a bug, but a deliberate attempt to counteract tanking.

HairyDave

I don't think I've ever charged up the leaderboard this fast before! 120th with 350 odd points to 19th and 730 points in less than 45 minutes - even with Spidey slowing things down.

It probably helped that I kept running into OBW/low-level Spidey/random teams (Moonstone & CStorm seem to be popular choices for some reason) so once you take out the one serious damage dealer they've got it's just a case of how long it takes to put Spidey down. And Molotovs have been working a treat

Spoit

Lyrian wrote:

Spoit wrote:

Also, not only are retaliations bugged by matching you with defensive wins, apparently retreating still puts your defensive team in now. I retreat tanked to push one of my alliance members out of the no-node MMR buckets, but in the couple minutes it took to do another fight, I lost 400 points, and even an hour later I'm still getting random hits from random 2* teams

There's a few in my alliance that have the same problem currently. One has lost over 400 points and the other over 600. They are saying that not only does retreating put in the tank team used, but it also generates a free retaliation against you for the person you retreated from, resulting in literally double jeopardy. Combined with the retreating team becoming the defensive team, this is causing quite a nightmare.

I knew about that part. I was trying to generate a node to get my teamate out of his 'no matches' MMR bubble

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gambl0r312 wrote:

Emeryt wrote:

btw. Bugpop - sorry for hitting You 3hrs ago. I saw You retaliated a moment after I put a shield

Also hit u Bugpop! Thank you for the 30pts! But I only did it b/c u are in my bracket, and I was able verify that u were shielded (@ #1! nice of course ) before I did the hit! Thanks to u I'm comfortably in the top 5 for all 3 Torch covers!
( there's no way my family/Alliance would ever hit top 100 for any Alliance cover, they're too casual! )

Ah, you're not sorry and I don't want you to be. It's all part of the game and in good fun.

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WorldRunner wrote:

Good run Bugpop. Was sure I could keep you in my rear view mirror when you dropped to 200 below me earlier today. Every time I unshielded i gain 50 pts just to lose 49 to fellow alliance members...

Nice comeback see you again perhaps

Got blitzed. It happens.

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I think I'm done now. Shielded out over 1100. Not because I really wanted a yellow spidey cover, but because it seemed that was what was going to be required for top 5.

Top 5 in my bracket runs 1162 for first down to 1003 for fifth. 6-10 run 933 down to 731.
Top 10 isn't really going to be overly contested anymore I think now that aside from some ISO and HP, it's really the same as 25th.

Top 5 is looking like it will continue to be brutal, especially if the covers are desirable.

Unknown

Alright. Since I started late, I've gotten up into the Top 20 with a little over 500 points. Decided to Shield for now so I could take time to heal up. Might try to keep myself in the Top 25 as it gets closer to ending. My main thing is just making sure I get a Red HT cover.